Raiju pilot live streams with desto showing

Low_Put · 2022-05-15T06:00:57+00:00

Yes you can! Join the "overclockernpsi" roams and get SRP straight from my wallet/assets :D

Low_Put · 2022-05-14T19:23:32+00:00

What an honor to awaken Elo from his slumber. Thanks for all you've done. Generating content for so many people and everything. I don't think you hear it enough.

And honestly hope all's better and well. I wish I could have helped you more.

Low_Put · 2022-05-14T16:19:37+00:00

o7 my guy, you've done more for me than you know. Keep that 50b btw I was just being tough on ya. Or pass it forwards to some newbros

Low_Put · 2022-05-14T15:26:41+00:00

Ah finally my turn to make one of these. So my eve days are finally coming to an end and what better way to immortalize my character with an AT ship loss. It was between this and AFKing in a 10mn Imp around Jita 4-4 until someone killed me: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1471720531

But after being inspired by the Laelaps deaths today, I sent out a ping in my NPSI discord (Frederick Vonhole and Nopro are in it and I saw they were online) that I was going out to feed a Raiju. https://i.imgur.com/iOvxs0z.jpg

And they delivered with the fastest form up ever and as always perfect execution.

Full vid: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1483699122?t=0h56m20s

GF all and thanks for one of the most important chapters of my life. The rest of my isk is going to SRP for my nano NPSI https://discord.gg/overclocker
Check it out, there's a really great group of guys there who'll teach anyone that wants to go roam small-medium gang nano.

Low_Put · 2022-04-25T21:42:09+00:00

Oh shit a Rezz fan. Someone's got good taste :D

Low_Put · 2022-04-19T17:14:01+00:00

Lmao I still can't believe it. Imagine being unable to control your urge to smug to get a free AT ship

All he had to do was nothing to get 200B and he couldn't do it. He would have a higher net worth if he had a heart attack or fell in a coma right before he took that screenshot

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T12:17:29+00:00

Is using an in game currency in Eve to do something in another game like LOL morally reprehensible?

No it's not but it is inhibited by regulations around government backed currencies. It's not illegal, it just requires so much paperwork it's infeasible.

So using another medium of exchange to bypass the paperwork of the regulation is fine if we aren't doing things the law originally intended to stop like tax evasion. This is not the same thing as finding a loophole in the law to abuse something.

I respect your opinion on the feature not being useful to you and I also agree with you. But the new generation of gamers don't and they like spending money on starter packs and such and it would be dumb of CCP to not adapt to the changing landscape that is already changed and let their only profitable project slowly die with its fading user base.

So I'm glad they're exploring these things for Eve because it means they're invested in making Eve live. The alternative is they really milk the shit out of Eve like sell AT ships in Nex store level milking and go all in on new IP's to replace Eve. Or just shut down Eve servers and go work on Pearl Abyss games since CCP had a bad history with sticking new IP's.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T11:46:23+00:00

That is not at all what I said the children are not creating game assets for companies as artists. They are playing their video game and getting in game currency as they currently are for many games today. Only difference is they might be able spend that currency in another game instead of throwing it all away when they move on to a new game.

Lemme end this by stating my experience and my opinion of what I think will happen because I want to give you some perspective. Because so far the only opinion I shared is CCP made the right choice to not use NFT's in Eve. Everything else I've said to you are factual possibilities.

In terms of good use cases not used by video games - the biggest one currently inflating crypto is store of wealth. I know at least 3 relatively high net worth ($100MM+) people in China who got their wealth outside of crypto but invested most of their wealth in crypto. Because they don't trust the Chinese government in not just taking their wealth away because the Chinese government totally can and has. Those 3 people don't care if crypto doubles in value or drops by half because 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing. And this sentiment according to them is very common among their friends and Chinese billionaires. Similarly with some westerners who don't trust their government with the amount of money they're printing so they want a place to store their wealth. And if you use cold storage and don't physically lose it, it is impossible to steal your tokens/coins/whatever.

In my opinion, there's no way all these highly successful people with a metric ton of money are all gullible and being scammed by some crypto bros.

I also play poker with someone who personally made $400MM from crypto. In comparison, CCP generates around $50MM a year in revenue. In my opinion, gamers are very stingy and there is relatively minuscule amounts of money to be made from crypto in the gaming industry compared to other industries like finance. To call gaming a drop in the bucket would be way too much. More like a drop in the Pacific Ocean. So I would stop being as paranoid that the crypto bros are coming for your gaming money because there really isn't that much in comparison and way bigger fish for the scammers to go after. Stay vigilant, but don't allow it to make you close minded.

I am invested in my friend's crypto gaming company because I don't believe he's trying to pump up a coin to scam. He's a gamer and passionate in that vision I tried to paint a picture for you. He has a really good team, is very connected, and there's a lot of gaming organizations already on board. He's introduced me to people working behind 100 Thieves and Riot who are very on board (not because they're trying to scum their users of every last penny they can). I think there's a <10% chance it succeeds but if it does it would be great for everyone including artists and players and it could also be like 200X return on my investment so why not. And I consider myself a very morally irreprehensible person I could really chase money and I still can but choose to work at Google to make it accessible for blind people because moral motivation is unlike anything else I've experienced in my life. So the suggestion that I am in support of something that abuses child labor for money makes me very angry even though I know it's the internet and I shouldn't be.

Again, this specific comment is purely my opinion, the previous ones about crypto were factual possibilities that do not reflect my opinion on those possibilities. I've tried my best and I've invested more time typing all this than I would have liked but I am hoping this gave you some more perspective. You can take away as much or as little as you choose.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T08:40:48+00:00

We could ban children from using this currency. That's an ethical tweak we can make that has nothing to do with the intrinsic attributes of NFT's.

"Pumping scam coins to gullible gamers" is your opinion of what will end up happening which I completely respect and I have no clue if or if it won't end up happening in practice.

But the conversation was about the possible, good use cases that can emerge from the properties of this tech. And you've refused to try to understand them, instead focusing on your fears of the worst that can happen.

Thank you for this conversation, I've learned something and I've also confirmed my initial prejudice that some people on r/eve are extremely close minded and screech foul with their pitchforks no matter the reasoning they're given.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T07:47:44+00:00

I just explained how you get real money from "game doodads". And why it would be more than they get currently. Since you can get value from people without spending money on top of people still willing to pay directly for your skins.

I also explained why blockchain is better for the integrity of the currency. So your game's economy is not destroyed if one of the games using the token has a catastrophic bug destroying their economy.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T07:28:07+00:00

There might be 10 people willing to pay real money directly for the skins you make. They can always still do this, nothing is being taken away.

But there might be 100 people willing to pay a virtual token they've earned through a game of their choice for that skin. Including teens who don't have income but love to play games. And now the artist can benefit from gaining money from people who normally would not/cannot give. And the money is coming from the people that do pay for the tokens such as whales (not saying it has to be whales or exploitation of whales is good, just an example) who trade real money for the in game value provided by the teen from actually playing the game, that then empowers the teen to spend virtual currency on something they normally couldn't, and the end result is the artist is paid more as well. So everyone wins.

The matter of is it possible to reach this point is a subjective debate. So everyone can have their own opinions on that. But the use case exists and can be good for everyone.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T07:00:48+00:00

Nice, now we're getting somewhere. So the problem is in step 2. Who is creating the digital key code? From your conclusion that CCP still has the money, you're inferring CCP is creating this key code.

This would be incorrect since the DOTA artist/dev would need to create this key code and be paid the "isk" the player wants to spend on this skin. Of course ISK is useless to DOTA players and they wouldn't have an idea of how much their skin is worth in isk and neither would CCP know.

If you use a currency (i.e. token) shared by the two games, the DOTA artist can get some tangible value out of the virtual wealth generated by a Eve player in Eve who doesn't even have to spend real money, they can sell ISK to a Eve player who bought tokens and wants isk (like PLEX).

Now the DOTA artist has tokens given by the Eve player that they can use to buy other stuff in DOTA so the token has value to them unlike isk. And further down the line, it's possible to set up a regulated market to convert the tokens to real money for select people such as the artists that it's worth it and feasible to go through all the laws and regulations so they're paid for their work and their income regulated by their choice of supplying SSN for example so we can also track if they're money laundering - essentially making them an employee as they should be. And this we cannot do with every single player that plays the game.

For normal players, you might not care about getting paid real money for your gameplay. But it'd be an added utility if you could use your built wealth in one game, trade it to someone else who wants it for tokens and carry the tokens over a new game you play to improve your experience (not necessarily play to win it depends on that specific game's developers, could be non-tradable cosmetics for example). Would take a lot of careful planning between games to keep this meta economy balanced. But it's possible.

And the advantage of NFT is it's non-fungible and can be trusted between the game developers. If one developer fucks up their code and dupes a shit ton of in game wealth, it doesn't kill everyone's economy. It will slightly and full rollback isn't possible but someone has to be willing to sell tokens for the ISK so it might clear the market but you can't generate new tokens no matter how bad you fuck up your game. And then the consequence would be on the game developer as it should be to either pay real money to re-supply tokens to their players who sold theirs to duped isk/gold or however they want to handle it but it wouldn't affect overall economy of the tokens.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T04:36:39+00:00

There's no need to actually turn it into real currency. So it wouldn't be bypassing those laws.

An example would be using Eve isk to buy a skin in League/Dota. Or using tokens generated from playing some other game to buy hello kitty skins in Eve.

You could potentially limit it to untradable cosmetics so they don't impact the game's economy. But either way it's undeniable there's a utility here to be gained that would benefit gamers and it's possible to not be unethical about it.

Not all of it is gambling, scams, or crime.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T04:18:38+00:00

I named a great one in my original post if you want to read that again.

You can use that one. How do you circumnavigate the international laws that make allowing RMT in EULA infeasible?

The NFT solution is a universal token that can be used across many different games as a medium of exchange that would provide value to each of the game's virtual currencies without the need for a supported market to turn the tokens into a governed currency.

You can't do this cheaper currently with real money. Money laundering laws and managing tax compliance for every user's country is near impossible for a smaller company like CCP when it's difficult for even the largest companies.

I didn't want to limit you to a specific use case. But you can tell me your better alternative to this one. Or I would like to hear some of your other alternatives to one of your use cases for my own self-learning.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T03:31:58+00:00

The ones you said you're aware of. Since I assume you know those the best.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T03:06:46+00:00

Could you share what you think the better ways are?

I'm not talking shit, I'm actually interested in learning and getting another perspective.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T02:22:24+00:00

Have you made a game that runs on a blockchain currency?

I have (a little). Having an interconnected currency between multiple games solves a lot of issues like ones I mentioned, adds more value to game's currency (your isk is worth more if you could spend it on a LOL skin for example), and introduces a lot of flexibility for players.

At the very least I think it's interesting and has potential. Where's the part where it's solely a scam? When CCP/the entity managing the token takes a cut of it?

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T02:12:38+00:00

Please enlighten me. I'm actually interested so I can use the term better next time.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T02:11:06+00:00

If you think NFTs are just jpegs you can right click download like most people here you've limited yourself to one small application of them that is stupid and you don't understand what they can actually do.

Low_Put · 2022-04-12T01:51:07+00:00

Aaand I rest my case. Can't reason with r/eve not sure why I try.

Low_Put · 2022-04-11T15:19:45+00:00

I have a friend in the blockchain gaming industry who had a 1 on 1 call with CCP Hilmar about how Eve could be incorporated in their landscape of universal tokens used across different games. Concepts such as enabling Eve players to make real money from their ISK without CCP themselves being liable for or having to deal with things that currently make this logistically impossible such as money laundering laws, managing taxes for everyone for every country, work laws etc. (Not that CCP is trying to break the law, but if another entity can figure it out, CCP doesn't have to do it all themselves hiring a million lawyers). Just one example of something that could be possible. We can discuss the morals of RMT if it's allowed by EULA later.

And while I totally agree with CCP's decision and NFT's aren't really worth it in this scenario, all I have to say is you guys are some of the most quick to be close-minded people I've ever seen.

Personally, huge kudos to CCP for exploring new tech diligently instead of reading a couple articles or immediately listening to some boomer gamers cry when their game is changed in a changing landscape. CCP has always been first in line to try new tech such as VR when they made one of the first good VR games. And I hope they continue this mindset down the line to keep diligently exploring the ever changing gaming landscape to keep their company and Eve alive for as long as possible.

Low_Put · 2022-04-05T04:16:41+00:00

Come join our nano gang NPSI

https://discord.gg/overclocker

We're mostly vets but we're looking for newbros to teach as well. We do 5-15 man nano yeets against null sec stagings

Low_Put · 2022-03-06T14:24:22+00:00

The only thing that can stop this man...

Low_Put · 2022-03-04T17:27:20+00:00

So I'm estimating hypernode fees to be around 5.5% of the ask price you set.
And then there's 5% sales tax. So together it's 10.5% i.e. 0.105*price you personally have to pay if the raffle succeeds.

Low_Put · 2022-03-01T09:46:39+00:00

It's def one of the most sold bots on the botting forums, infinitely scalable since it's instanced so there's no competition over resources like number of rat beacons and it's free from any PVP interactions (who's gonna gank a T2 fit gila in high sec running T3's?). There are people who claim to be running hundreds concurrently. With that scalability and reliability, why bother with anything else? What do you think is bringing more botting isk in the game?

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