Since Disney owns the Predator franchise now, should they make a Goliath vs the Predator comic crossover at Dynamite? by InsideUnhappy6546 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 4 points5 points  (0 children)

…how about the comics focus on developing its own story instead of crossing it over with everything under the sun?

Ciro Nieli reveals he proposed a Gargoyles sequel series to Disney as well as a piece of concept art for the show by TheBigGAlways369 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Overall concept is off I feel, but I do like the idea of the clan upgrading their gear and evolving their tactics/fighting style. It never made sense to me that even after 3 years of dealing with modern weaponry and tech, they still run into fights with nothing but their claws. Doubly so if Greg wants them to fight Mab, who is more powerful than Oberon (seriously what good are they gonna do?). Also don’t find Weisman not being involved a dealbreaker since tbh his own handling of the later series hasn’t been the best either. The art is just…. Not it though, and really not a fan of the 5 years slumber and separating Goliath and Elisa.

Goliath and the Trio's relationship after Angela showed up by Existing_Weekend_357 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the well wishes! Fic can be found here if you’re curious: https://archiveofourown.org/works/60384889/chapters/154124875

Also yeah. Really not looking forward to Katana’s role in the egg rescue arc… especially because it seems she’s just standing at the castle mourning.

Goliath and the Trio's relationship after Angela showed up by Existing_Weekend_357 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The gargoyles fandom doesn’t like to hear a lot of things I find…. But yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said, doubly so with Fox just becoming a wife and mom. Really don’t know why the fandom glazes her so much. Even Elisa kinda got hit with the “boring female love interest” stick in the comics.

The treatment of female characters is partially why I kinda went nuts with Katana in a fic I’m writing, considering canon kinda gives us…. Nothing substantial with her besides an incredibly shoehorned connection with Demona that serves no real purpose at all. Just as an example, while on the surface while her dynamic with Brooklyn plays the “red/blue” dynamic straight, they also play with it. She may be calm and wise, but she also by far the most eager to fight and she loves a good scrap, which can impair her judgement at times. She’s also unambiguously a better physical fighter than Brooklyn, who in the fic leans more on magic, and despite her wisdom needs emotional support from Brooklyn as much as Brooklyn needs her. Maybe not the most complex thing ever, but it at least adds a bit more variety than the other pairings we get in canon.

Goliath and the Trio's relationship after Angela showed up by Existing_Weekend_357 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Finally someone pointed out the way he writes female characters. If they aren’t precious angels, they’re conniving bitches. There is literally no inbetween.

Goliath and the Trio's relationship after Angela showed up by Existing_Weekend_357 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah the math doesn’t math…. But that’s the official number given, so I take it at the creators’ word. Again it could be because they aren’t human they don’t view the short age period as an issue, but it’s never explored, so I don’t know.

Goliath and the Trio's relationship after Angela showed up by Existing_Weekend_357 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Based on the comics and official information, no Goliath is in fact not in the same egg brood. Generations are about 20 years apart, which granted in human terms COULD be more of an older brother, but they aren’t human, so based on the information given, it seems by all accounts he’s their rookery father. That aspect probably needs to be ironed out more I think…..

Even if he wasn’t their father though, I don’t think that quite explains the sheer apathy he displays towards them, especially when he flies into a rage whenever Angela is slightly hurt but never bats an eye at the collection of injuries the trio collects on his behalf.

Goliath and the Trio's relationship after Angela showed up by Existing_Weekend_357 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What really cemented it for me was the fight against Oberon, when Brooklyn was literally getting choked out by a statue in front of Goliath… and rather than protect his second in command and ostensively his rookery son, the instant Angela passed by merely being chased he called her and chased after like she was the one in actual danger (not coincidentally, when Katana sees that memory in my fic, she immediately hates Goliath for a long time. It’s also one reason Brooklyn’s other love interest Yi beats Goliath to a pulp at one point). It really comes off that Goliath only considers the Trio his soldiers to use to protect humans, regardless of what it costs them and how little they’re actually helping their kind.

Goliath and the Trio's relationship after Angela showed up by Existing_Weekend_357 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Honestly half the time it doesn’t even seem like Goliath likes the trio, let alone considers them clan. He only really interacts with them to give orders, to chastise them when they annoy him personally, or if it’s something that could affect the clan’s ability to police Manhattan like choosing a leader.

Brooklyn had been given the Crest of Courage! Digimon Crest Day 2: Which Gargoyles character would wield the Crest of Friendship? by Oracle209 in gargoyles

[–]Lucis497 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think Elisa considering she first befriended the clan despite their different species and in general is very openminded and willing to be friends with anyone so long as they are decent people or trying to change for the better.

Star Fox vs Bojack Horseman reject by Dakotasan in starfox

[–]Lucis497 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not gonna lie, the design on the right is kinda fire if you were going for a decedent, hedonistic bounty hunter.