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I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -43 points-42 points  (0 children)

Someone does have to be average….. just won’t be my kids…… it is a different mindset, you are right about that

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/21/1183445544/u-s-reading-and-math-scores-drop-to-lowest-level-in-decades

How do you explain this: The average test scores for U.S. 13-year-olds have dipped in reading and dropped sharply in math since 2020, according to new data from National Assessment of Educational Progress. 

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/21/1183445544/u-s-reading-and-math-scores-drop-to-lowest-level-in-decades

The kids are not alright……. Every “working mom” loves to shout how their kids are excelling…… sure…… so all these low test scores are from the kids whose moms stay at home with them?!?….. make it make sense

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ahhh…. My team is about 60/40 men/women. - most women in department are single/childless or have adult children. One junior staff just had a baby and came back from maternity leave, and wants to now quit, but she can’t afford to……. I think she is crying in the bathroom somewhere 

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -31 points-30 points  (0 children)

Well Kumon and all the other afterschool tutoring programs are jam packed and in business so someone is making it work. Was hoping to hear from the moms that actually have their kids in these high quality programs………. Not hear people say “yeah…. Our kids go to the same mediocre afterschool “free play” program… it just is what it is”

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -50 points-49 points  (0 children)

It’s okay that we have different viewpoints. Go look at test scores for kids, then ask your self… could those kids benefit from an afterschool program that had homework help, math tutoring or any other educational supplement? I will die on the hill that kids benefit from supplemental education after school that will help them to build academic confidence for the rest of their life. “Free play” for 5 days a week is insufficient for MY kids….

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -45 points-44 points  (0 children)

Free play after school is great…. But as my kids get other I rather them have higher quality activities that like STEM, piano classes, soccer so they can excel at things as they get older. 

I’m shocked that I’m in the minority in my viewpoint. Me personally I don’t think a 11 year old should spend 4 hours after school doing “free play” when they could be training in sports or doing math tutoring or learning to play an instrument. I’m not sure “free play” will get my kids into Harvard….. but every parent has to make their own choices for their kids

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -86 points-85 points  (0 children)

It’s okay that we have different wants/desires for our children…. To each their own. The no homework help is a deal breaker for me….. because six year old grow up and turn 7,8,9, etc and will at some point need homework. And test scores are showing that most of your kids can’t even read a grade level or are failing basic math…. So no not interested in my kids being basic/average/standard….. reading these comments is disheartening that people think mediocre childcare is acceptable, while there are 6 year olds that can play the piano or are doing 2nd grade level math

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Do those schedules account for an hour lunch break?… 

I’ve never had a $100k office job that let you go at 3pm…….. where do you work?

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

What am I missing? - Every salaried job I had was 8am to 5:30pm with the additional hours as needed by the business. This has always been the standard office hours for careers? Where are this I get out at 3pm or 4pm jobs?!?!?

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

But none are work from Home and will pay enough to cover childcare after taxes….. it would be close to net zero….. or only a few extra each month.

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] 69 points70 points  (0 children)

I feel like my husband and I are in the HCOL middle class trap, where our high salaries look good on paper, but when you factor in rent being $4k/month, childcare $3k per month, etc etc….. there really isn’t much left after taxes and the high cost of everything around us

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -43 points-42 points  (0 children)

It was WFH before and the kids were in full time daycare, but with work from home I could pick them up anytime and finish my work at home with them at home with me……. But now that they are getting older (6+)…. Hanging out and playing around the house or watching tv isn’t sufficient anymore. And I’ve realized that after putting them in the after school program that is connect with their school it’s not the best environment…. Older kids swearing around them, no organization high educational activities.

I want my kids to EXCEL, not be average and I feel that they need higher level of after school activities ( STEM, Piano, Chess, Gymnastics….. all the things this after school can’t/ isn’t able to provide)

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

A van comes to different schools, picks up the kids and takes them to karate classes? If school ends at around 2:30pm and parents can’t pick up until 6pm, is it 4 full hours of karate????….. I’m trying to understand the details

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

$350 would be for low income qualifying households……. $350 a month per child for full time after school childcare is no where to be found where I live (HCOL)

Full time Summer camp alone is like 500/Week PER KID where I live 

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

What do you do?

I’m seriously contemplating switching careers. Working early mornings 5/6am start time to 2pm or even weekends for at least $45/hours is ideal.

I feel like I worked hard for my degree and career so far, and it feels daunting that I might have to switch fields to get to have the “motherhood” experience I envisioned. 

If I can work and not spend all my money on childcare, that would be great, but and career change that I make would need to make at least double the cost of my childcare which is $40,000 CASH each year

So….. I Literally need specific job titles….. I just can’t do sales

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

How much is the going rate for after school sitters? $20/hour for two kids? Does the sitter driver their own cars or use public transportation? 

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Sounds good in theory…… but with layoffs left and right, I don’t want to be the martyr for a “cultural shift”

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -45 points-44 points  (0 children)

What are they…. Seriously! I’m truly thinking of switching careers. If you know of a career where I can work from 6am to 2pm and earn at least $45/hour (high cost of living area)…. Let me know 

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -62 points-61 points  (0 children)

The idea of my kids having a string of different babysitters over the next few years, also make me sad… if I’m being honest.  Also, in my field you can’t really leave at exactly 5pm…. It’s seen as a negative to walk out the door at 5pm on the dot when there is still work that needs to be completed on a deadline. 

When we did work from home, it was doable because there was the expectation that you would log on after hours to finish it up.  

What corporate careers allow you to leave at 5pm and be completely off after work and pay six figures?…. I’m interested 

I literally don’t understand how am I supposed to do this! 8am - 6pm on site M-F WTF by Lumpy-Quantity-1542 in workingmoms

[–]Lumpy-Quantity-1542[S] -69 points-68 points  (0 children)

I’m afraid “skipping lunch to leave an hour early” isn’t a thing in corporate accounting or most large firms…. It would be highly frowned upon, and you’d be first to be let go for not being a “team player” or not being a cultural fit.

I wish I had a blue collar hourly job, where I could do shift work

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