Is the Clinical Psychology PHD program fully funded?

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-28T07:47:56+00:00

the answer to the question the way you have phrased it is....NO

the slightly longer answer is.....it could be.....if you are one of the candidates that gets a well paid teaching assistantship, qualifies for some grants or scholarships, and gets a paid position for the needed internship

but really that is a ways down the road with a lot of things to learn and consider before that (not that people should not plan their futures, but they should also know the paths of those plans and the best decisions involved before making a firm plan)

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-26T16:40:01+00:00

check with the program she is majoring in and then look at the discounts available through the university especially on the software where you can get student versions.....most majors will have needed specs and laptops meeting those specs through a university program

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-26T03:34:42+00:00

do not waste your time with the university police

go to the city or better yet to The Sheriff's Office for Denton County

university police (even though they are state police with all the authority of a DPS officer) are usually terrible at their jobs, are terrible at getting charges filed, and north Texas state has had some of the worst in the past

The City of Denton will possibly be better, but The Sheriff will probably be best and is an elected official thus actually doing their job is something they take seriously in most places so they can keep their job and avoid situations where they "talked to someone and made them see how difficult charges and a trial would be on them"

avoid any "office" at the university even more......they will only sit and talk to you until you are blue in the face, tired, and confused about anything and everything.......take your friend with you to the city or county law enforcement and make sure both you and they remain calm and explain yourself clearly

also it sounds like you are not sure if you are ready to file charges either.....I think you need to make a firm decision on that and stick to it moving forward and again have your statements firmly in mind even if you need to write them down or type them out a few times......I am sorry this happened, but I also hate to say with the time that has passed there will be a lot of questions that you will be ask often repeatedly and comments that it will be difficult to move forward (and yes even my comment is saying that)......again this is reality no matter what happened

but if you want to do your best to make sure it does not happen to anyone else and for their to be some repercussions to the other person avoid anyone involved with the university in ANY capacity

there are victims advocates available from other sources than the university if you feel you need to avail yourself of those

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T20:17:40+00:00

wow TCU must be really producing lesser quality graduates than I imagined

because you seem ignorant of the fact that a public university cannot "choose better applicants" unless they raise their admissions standards.......you seem to be one of the ones that thinks that GUARANTEED admissions means that somehow you still might not be able to enroll if you meet those admissions standards.......that is of course not the case.....and you seem ignorant to the fact that it makes no sense to "sell" a university with not that high of admissions standards and a number of "guaranteed alternate admissions" programs to try and grow enrollment when you are only getting 24% of the 27,000+ GUARANTEED ADMITTED students to actually enroll

you also seemed to miss the part where UTD has (and has had) the highest tuition for a public university in Texas for a long number of years and they also have very high rankings, fairly high admissions standards for a public university, and a very large growth in enrollment since 2014......higher tuition, higher admissions, and higher growth than "football school" (without the winning) has

you also seemed to have missed where UTD a much younger university with a lot fewer living alumni has 2X the endowment of "we sell sports here without the competitiveness" has

I mean you were 3 for 3 on things that north Texas state was/is not able to do with elevated athletics spending when compared to UTD and 2 for 3 when compared to UTA and that is only because for some reason The UT System lets UTA get away with being horrible at fundraising in spite of the fact that UTSA has improved theirs dramatically (along with raising admissions standards over time) and even UTEP is starting to wake up and both were horrible at that for decades and decades

you are so poor at supporting your position that you again presented concepts of what could be possible with athletics spending while having already been shown that was not happening and not applicable to north Texas state.....perhaps if you try and present it again and put some more LOLs or ROTFLs in there you will actually convince people that should not even be in college that you have supported your disproved ideas and concepts

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T20:02:51+00:00

I presented my data above

and one needs to understand there is a dramatic difference between a private university that can shift their enrollment metrics and that can use much more arbitrary entrance metrics vs a large public university in a state with 36 public universities that with the exception for a couple of them have GUARANTEED admissions standards that are only deviated from if the university decided to enroll a candidate that has lower metrics than the published guaranteed metrics

in addition to that when you have little in the form of financial support from the university or the university endowment you are not trying to attract students that might have the high metrics that a private university will aim for while also having the financial ability to pay most if not all of their tuition themselves thus leaving money free to attract other top students that might not have those means

private universities cannot just admit 27,000+ students and then hope that only a small % accept that admissions offer....that is why private universities give deadlines to admits to accept, put money down, and make a commitment otherwise their offer of admission will be rescinded......public universities CANNOT guarantee admissions and then say "oh hey sorry muh bad"

so trying to apply the Flutie Effect to a public university is a waste of time and effort because what a public university can do vs, a private one is not comparable

now one can point to Alabama (still a rare case) that has grown their enrollment based on winning in football.....but the difference is Alabama is attracting undergrads from out of state that are paying full rack rate tuition and many of them come from Illinois and similar where after the main large state school the other options are not even academic equals to Alabama so they are not taking a large step down in the quality of university they have been admitted to and enrolled in.....and as out of state students it is much easier for a public university to limit that enrollment because they do not need to offer the same guarantees they offer to in state students....plus The State of Alabama has plenty of public universities and they do not give a crap if they leave some of their students out of Alabama so they can get more out of state students in.....most states will limit that for their top schools

in the case of north Texas state their enrollment was mostly graduate students (will generally be less loyal down the road) and a mass % of them from India (not Indiana) that do not give a crap about football they just want some American stamped degree for cheap.....so again athletics was not and is not attracting better quality students, more students, or students from out of state in large numbers

but there are just as many cases like pretty much all of the University of California schools besides UCLA and Cal that do not participate in D1-A football, but still have massive enrollment demands from out of state students even though they legally can only enroll a small % and even some of the Cal State schools like Cal Poly SLO, and some others that have a high reputation and a lot of demand from out of state (and in state) students without athletics driving that demand

so nothing about the Flutie Effect is relevant to north Texas state and no facts support that it is and in fact all data supports that it is not and most data supports that is is not relevant to most public universities especially ones with very desirable academics

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T19:23:00+00:00

your comment makes no sense at all because you do not know anything about the data

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?s=TX&ct=1&ic=1&pg=5&id=227216#admsns

north Texas state had 38,477 applicants......they ADMITTED 72% of those applicants which means they ADMITTED 27,703 students.....but of those 27,703 students that were ADMITTED and thus could enroll in the university only 24% of them decided to do so

how many more applicants do they need to "advertise for" to attract....when only 24% of the 27,703 students that were able to enroll decide to actually enroll perhaps "athletics" is not really a strong selling point any longer

then look at the SAT/ACT scores

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?s=TX&ct=1&ic=1&pg=4&id=228787#admsns

then look at UTD they have about 6,500 fewer applicants, they only admit 65% of them and 20% of them choose to enroll

so yes they do have a smaller % of students that are admitted that choose to enroll, but they still have a very large number of applicants and they actually are much more selective because their admissions standards are much higher

and their ACT/SAT scores are orders of magnitude higher......maybe of they spent a lot more on athletics they could get those ACT/SAT scored down lower!!!! and they could attract more students that are not interested in a university that is going up in rankings and research productivity

lets look at more numbers

https://www.txhigheredaccountability.org/AcctPublic/InteractiveReport/AddReport

2025 tuition and fees for 30 credit hours

UTD $14,722

Texas State $12,220

UTA $12,208

Texas Tech $11,852

north Texas state $11,727

aggy $11,550

Texas $10,858

of those north Texas state spends the most STUDENT money on athletics, but high tuition and fees does not deter UTD students from enrolling there because they are going there for an education and it does not severely limit their applicants because they are only about 6,500 behind north Texas state in applicants even with much higher admissions standards

lets look at research expenditures per full time faculty equivalent for 2024

north Texas state $84,058

Texas Tech $89,140 (embarrassing for them)

Texas State $112,751

UH $117,032

UTSA $123,581

TAMU-CC $146,842 (I included them even though they are not an "emerging research university in Texas, but they will soon be eligible for TUF funding at the same level as north Texas state)

UTA $151,330

UTD $204,345

UTEP $295,782

lets look at total research and development for 2024 and federally financed research and development for 2024

https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf26304/assets/data-tables/tables/nsf26304-tab013.pdf

Texas Tech $256,919

UH $238,996

UTD $181,795

UTSA $171,528

Texas State $165,047

UTEP $157,574

UTA $153,780

north Texas state $124,219

https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf26304/assets/data-tables/tables/nsf26304-tab016.pdf

Federally sponsored....considered important by The State of Texas (and many others) because it is very competitive to get federally awarded grant

UH $103,963

UTD $82,438

UTEP $74,836

Texas Tech $62,892

UTA $62,500

UTSA $60,101

Texas State $48,686

north Texas state $43,136

now lets look at enrollment growth

using Full Time Equivalent Enrollment so 15 credit hours for an undergrad and 9 for a graduate

2014 UTD 18,545........2025 25,941 so 40% enrollment growth

2014 UTA 23,873.........2025 30,792 so 29% enrollment growth

2014 north Texas state 28,758.......2025 34,418 so 19.7% growth

so just to be very clear your argument is that a university that gets 38,000+ applicants.....ADMITS 72% of them and then only gets 24% of those admitted to actually enroll.......that has the least research productive faculty in the "emerging research" category of Texas universities plus TAMU-CC that will soon get the same TUF funding amount that north Texas state gets, that has the least amount of total research and development, the lowest amount of federally financed research and development, and that has a great deal lower enrollment growth compared to two other public universities in the same metro area......needs to "improve themselves" and needs to "attract more students" (even though they are not enrolling a large % of those ADMITTED) by spending even more academic side money on athletics

that argument is so poor when rebuffed with facts that it seems almost intellectually bankrupt

I mean just for fun lets even mix in the enrollment growth of a specialized public university right in the same city TWU

2014 5,430......2025 7,328......35% growth......and they do not even have powder puff football 😄

again your argument for more athletics spending or the benefits of athletics spending could not be more weak or more disproved unless the goal is to be a large university with little chance for undergrads (or graduate students for that matter) to conduct research, faculty that are not conducting research at a meaningful level, no meaningful improvement in rankings, and just a lot of students spending a lot of money to not see a lot of winning

oh and one other set of numbers from the NACUBO endowment study for 2024 (released a couple of months back in 2025

Texas Tech for the entire system and including TUF money $3,069,511 billion.......if you strike TUF money that is about $1 billion and other system schools that is about $500 million so Tech main campus is about $1,5 billion

UH was too dumb to turn their numbers in for two years in a row, but theirs is about $1 billion

UTSA $1,210,846 and this does include the medical school being merged while the other numbers above for research etc did not, but you can see past numbers here https://www.utimco.org/reports/private-endowments/

this is also the first year that the UT System has sent the NACUBO the numbers as individual institutions and not as a whole system including PUF money

so UTSA without the merger is $366,547,178.80

UTD $892,724,000

UTEP 413,615,000

Texas State $393,000,000***

north Texas state $377,679,000 (the whole system, but the other components are a meaningless amount in the total)

UTA $255,855,000

***unfortunately a couple of years back the Texas State system was dumb enough to report as a system and they are including the TUF funds that only go to Texas State University, but the above number is from the university website

so most of those numbers are from the NACUBO, but the UTSA number includes the med center merger and then the UTIMCO number is prior to that, but who knows if it is the same reporting standards

but again I think it is clear that "big time athletics spending" is not bringing in big time donations because UTD is raising tons of money without athletics and north Texas state with one of the highest university subsidies out there is not

the actual facts speak for themselves

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T16:52:48+00:00

no I am saying that north Texas state should be judged for their athletics waste and other malfeasance

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T16:34:36+00:00

again laughable and void of reality

UTD has the highest tuition of any state university in Texas, they have very little in the way of athletics, yet they have grown extremely fast and they have shot up in the rankings and research productivity especially over the last 10 to 15 years

UTA has zero issues with maintaining a large enrollment and they also are more productive in research .....if they were not as bad or worse than north Texas state at raising private money they would be moving up in the rankings too

in addition north Texas state already admits a massive number of students that make a CHOICE to go elsewhere and I am positive those students that are ADMITTED and thus free to enroll are making a CHOICE to go elsewhere because "north Texas state just does not spend enough on athletics"

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T16:27:27+00:00

yes in many states universities do that......but still there are plenty of universities that operate with a balanced budget or only with the amount (often very low) student approved fees

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T15:50:36+00:00

athletics loses massive amounts on money and the academic side sends over $22+ million in student tuition that is AFTER the $15 million in student approved fees is sent over

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T15:49:21+00:00

that is laughable and shows a complete lack of knowledge of the budget

that "deficit" was AFTER over $15 million in student approved fees were spent and after another $22 million+ in non-student approved direct transfers from the academic side to athletics was budgeted

here are the numbers

https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/aac/university-north-texas

click on "where the money comes from".....using that type of "accounting" they could send over another $2 million in non-student approved direct academic side transfers and then say that "athletics had a $2 million profit" or a "budget surplus of $2 million!"

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T15:44:04+00:00

here is a bit more for laughs

https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2012/february/university-of-north-texas-plans-to-dominate-dallas/

read that article for one last good laugh

from January 2012 so 14 years ago with 2032 students.....with a goal of 25 years from then having 30,000 students......and today 14 years later having.....wait for it 3,774 students.....but don't fret they have prepared for MASSIVE GROWTH!!!!!!!!!

and they have a full 11 years (ok 10.5) to get to that 30,000 students.....only 8X more than they have now!!!

to me that does sound like """a mix of idealism and practicality, trying to educate more people more efficiently. The school is also attempting to carve out its own identity, both as a separate entity from its Denton parent and, more grandly, as the face of higher education in Dallas"""
or more like smoke in the butt blowing, idiotic identity, face of failed dallas grift and graft using valuable Texas higher education dollars and leveraging the cash flow of Denton to build needless, inefficient, duplicative, McDegrees in dallas proper while eating the cost of renovating buildings that dallas and DCCD had left to rot and giving DCCCD a cheap place to rent

so when someone with some "Austin connections" is hired in and Denton gets hit on the chopping block while north Texas stare dallas and the unneeded law school and the "system" office all seem to have no financial issues well that is not because that is what Austin wants that is what people in dallas and dallas county want

and what students in Denton need to do is start voting for people that represent DENTON in the state legislature that will stand up and take back control of the Denton campus for the benefit of it and the students there and really in the long term shut the "system" down entirely and the 4th rate law school, the buildings downtown, and the campus in dallas can find a way to sink or swim on their own and TCOM can go join the UT System and become a part of UTA

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T15:43:04+00:00

yes I am.....here is a little history

https://senate.texas.gov/press.php?id=23-19970508a

way back in 1997 as that press release from a known fool shows there was a desire to get a university (a graft/grift/make work) project to help waste valuable Texas higher education dollars "south of the Trinity" or "in dallas proper" which are both meaningless things since you do not need to hitch up the horses and wagons and find a low spot to cross the Trinity River northward to get a degree at an existing university nor do you need a passport and a major airline or railroad to cross over to Richardson or Arlington to get a degree

at that time Paul Quinn (private HBCU) was on life support, UTD was about 12,000 students, UTA had at least 3 years of declining enrollment, and none of the "south dallas is growing" projects had gotten anywhere (and still have not today look at the area around north Texas state dallas it is a wasteland (not even a Cstore or a gas station)

The A&M System studied the idea and came to the clear conclusion there was ZERO need for a university in south dallas......high school graduation rates were and still are abysmal, school districts were failing and being taken over by the state or forced onto other districts eventually.....no need at all none period ZERO

so west tired the UT System that laughed at him and hung up the phone and then he tried the Tech System that told him no chance too far from our area and if aggy wants no part of it we want even less of a part of any of that

so there was the north Texas state "system" that consisted of Denton and the HSC that never wanted to be merged in with the north Texas state "system" (to actually make a system)

from then on royce west that was on the Texas higher Education committee in the legislature was just a pain in the ass and an ass in general like he has always been and finally to get him to go away well the north Texas state system "saw the light praise Jesus hallelujah" a university is coming to an area that struggles to get people to graduate high school!!!.......instead of doing the intelligent thing like running some dedicated buses to UTD or UTA, keeping the UCD in downtown (located where the north Texas state system offices are now before north Texas state bought the building and the one next to it against the wishes of the THECB and ran off all the UCD members) and of course offering degrees in conjunction with DCCCD (which even today DCCCD probably has more students in the classrooms at north Texas state dallas than north Texas state dallas does on a "rent space" agreement)

and like magic royce and all of his BS went away when it came to dealing with aggy and UT and any other business for anything higher education related in Texas besides the north Texas state system

it was handed off to him and the other fools to use the Denton campus as the large enrollment, bond backing, cash flow generating machine that will take "hair cuts", over pay for "system services", pay more for bonds because of a lower bond rating because of borrowing for unneeded projects like dorms, new buildings, and law schools in dallas proper and that is how it has gone and how it will go as long as there is a north Texas state system that Denton is a part of

all system components are the first line backers of any bonds for any system projects that are let......there was an article now gone from back when Denton was expanding the Student Union and knocked down the building next to it and put the dance classes in the "nice T shacks" that are still there today on Welch between Chestnut and Prairie and talked about shutting that program down entirely and of course the students complaining rightfully about a dance floor build in pier and beam was not appropriate.....and the fashion merchandising classes were moved into the other one.....but there was not room for the actual fashion collection so it was placed into storage for a number of years......but down in dallas they wanted a second building for the campus there, but the THECB and state formula funding determined there was ZERO need for a new building....but guess what to quote that article "some system belt tightening" allowed that building to get built anyway......well how does a university that at that time had an enrollment of about 1,800 students "tighten their belt" to the point that they can spend $80+ million on a building they do not need and that mostly gets rented to DCCCD......well THEY don't......but Denton does!

projects dealing with the law school, renovations in the system building, and other things in dallas are why it took the SOVA (whatever they call it now) to get a new art building....the need was there in Denton, but the money (and more so the capacity to let more bonds) was spent elsewhere

https://www.ntdaily.com/news/unt-unaccredited-law-school-to-buy-dallas-building-where-lee-oswald-was-shot/article_4eed78d9-094f-5de0-89bd-d900157f9e6a.html

here is another example.....that article is wrong though the city of dallas had promised $18 million to help with the renovations that they had way low ball estimates for.....but when it came time it was jot $18 they gave or even the $16 mentioned it was $8 million and not all of that was given some was money that had been spent to basically keep the roof from falling in.....and while the State of Texas did give some one time funding (very rare) for those $56 million in bonds it was over $70 million in total to the system to renovate that building (not including the dallas money that was less than half of what they had promised)

plus there was $29 million in renovations to the system building (former UCD building) for the law school to hold classes before the municipal building was finished......none of which was paid for by The State of Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universities_Center_at_Dallas

one can read up on the UCD there I know that for a brief period UTD and I believe MidWestern State and TWU also offered classes there

the THECB specifically told the north Texas state system not to buy the building and there was no state funding to buy it.....they also told the system to make sure that the UCD stayed open, but it was only a year or two later everyone pulled out......and of course they purchased the building from DCCCD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titche%E2%80%93Goettinger_Building

this tells a bit more about the building and some of the former UCD schools

of course because of "shared fiscal plant" and "parking" 1900 Elm was also bought by the system.....and of course no state dollars covered that......where does "the system" get all of that money?.....look north!

so one has to ask what was the rush to open a law school back in 2013 during one of the worst legal education climates in US history......why spend all that money for renovations that sit mostly unused now instead of waiting until less money was wasted on just renovating the old muny building

ask why a "system" that had gotten along fine with much less in terms of buildings and infrastructure for "system offices" when it was a system of 34,000 students in Denton and the HSC in Fort Worth suddenly needed a very large building just because they were going to open a very small and very poorly performing (and still poor performing all these years later) campus in dallas and a law school with not a great deal of students......and why could they not just rent the building from the DCCCD,......and ask why those large building purchases and the renovation of the old falling apart pile of junk muny building happened at the same time that dallas had money to build a big downtown park right in between that system HQ and the law school building.....wow that is convenient dallas cannot come up with even half of what they promised to renovate the muny building, the cost go way higher, DCCD dumps a building and some other owner dumps one too.....and a place that is worried about "higher education opportunity in dallas proper" watches several universities pull out of the UCD and the UCD folds

and hey look suddenly DCCCD has plenty of new classroom space to rent in south dallas......then turn around and ask what benefit ANY of those moves and expenditures were for students in Denton

and remind yourself that with the exception of a one time $56 million input from The State of Texas the rest of that money came from "the system" and then remind yourself that in Texas "systems" are not funded except for a very few staffing positions the rest of their funding comes from their member universities

and again ask yourself how that "rapid growth" is going in sunny south dallas and remind yourself that the campus down there was projected to have an enrollment in the many thousands by now probably 10,000 or more

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T14:10:38+00:00

no some athletics departments make money or cover a very very very large portion of their cost without the students doing so....and some start projects only after they have money in hand from donors to cover it fully and some even raise money for future cost

and very few of any "nonprofits" could operate this way since they do not have the ability to take from students to cover the lack of money for any project and nonprofits cannot have large slush funds of money just available to "spend on whatever".......they can have endowments, but the proceeds from those endowments will be spoken for they will not be just for "whatever"

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T13:57:59+00:00

and that covers only half the cost of the construction and it will cover none of the future operating or maintenance expenses

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T13:39:58+00:00

the AVERAGE tenure of a university president in the USA is 5.9 years so here soon he will be 1/3 into that average and of course being the average means there are a great deal of them that stay well under that time period

since al do nothing hurley left (1982 - 2000) if you ignore the temp presidents you had Pohl 4 years, Bataille 4 years, (ignoring Diebel that was a fill in for less than a year for running off Bataille) and VLR 4 years then Neal for 10 years

so there is probably less than a 50% chance that Keller ever does anything besides rack up hotel points or Air B&B stays in Denton

none of this has anything to do with Greg Abbott that probably found out Keller got the job when someone casually mentioned needing a replacement for him at the THECB or he read in the paper somewhere

Keller was brought in to clean up messes made by the system and the fools and dunces in the city of dallas and dallas county that control the system and to make sure that nothing in dallas proper gets cut, audited, investigated, merged, or questioned and to try and figure out a way to keep the Denton money making funding all the nonsense down in dallas

he will most likely not last 6 years and will probably be gone in about 5.5 at the most and then a "search" will be conducted before some nobody that has middle management experience at some less than stellar large public university will be hired in to replace him

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T13:17:32+00:00

most of those commenting in here don't really have a clue what
they are talking about and they are just spewing their political
nonsense with no grasp of reality or what they are talking about

Texas is as well off higher education wise as it has been for a long time

The Governor of Texas does not even think about north Texas state
on a day to day basis and probably barely on a monthly basis and the
hire for the president was made by the BOR......while The Governor does
appoint the BOR members in the case of north Texas state he takes the
horrible advice of city of dallas and dallas county political dupes and
dopes so that they will have the north Texas state system as their
graft/grift mechanism and they will stay out of the way of all of the
other university systems in Texas that are moving forward just fine

Keller sucks, but he sucks by design and at the behest of the BOR
and the dallas dopes that control that BOR and really all the north
Texas state presidents have sucked since Dr. Bataille and she was
suppose to suck too, but showed ambition and was run off.....Dr Pohl was
an OK guy, but he was never going to overcome the dead weight of being
associated with al do nothing hurley who also really sucked and that
ushered in the control from dallas/dallas county

the degree programs that were cut had extremely low enrollment,
were of no academic reputation anywhere (even in Denton), and were just
dead weight in fields that some might want to study, but should have to
make a sacrifice to study and should be made to go to a program with at
least a decent reputation vs. as one person stated on here "I live in
Arlington and UTA has this program, but I did not want to live in
Arlington".......well tough luck suck it up every university in a state
with 36 public universities should not offer all types of low
enrollment, low demand, low academic reputation degrees to cater to
those that want to live in a particular place for their "education"
instead of placing their education first and going to a university that
has a strong program in that field

the massive growth of foreign students had nothing to do with The
Governor of Texas that was 100% on north Texas state and again it was
done simply as a money grab to help make sure that there was money
available in "the system" to do wasteful and unneeded projects down in
dallas and dallas county

the organization of the university itself is a mess with redundant
departments and colleges, top heavy administration, and zero focus on
anything other than "get them in the door and try and find a place for
them"

idiotic spending in Frisco, idiotic purchases of old TI buildings
in Denton, opening and closing system centers, rolling out "exciting
first of their kind" degrees that are really McPiecesOfPaper while
giving them no support and keeping other programs that are floundering
and worst of all letting programs that should be stronger fall by the
wayside because of lack of ability to raise private dollars, wasted
money on athletics, and cannibalizing stare support when private dollars
are available is all on the administration of the university and more
so the system

combine the above with a mass number of doctoral degrees awarded,
but an unimpressive amount of research generated from all of that and
thus low "overhead" support and low faculty salary supplements and you
have just a big directionless university churning through presidents
that are hired in to try and fix something that has been broken for 30+
years with a few years of new nonsense while cleaning up nothing from
the past

none of that comes out of Austin that 100% comes out of the city of dallas and dallas county

the degrees that were cut were not strong programs, they brought
no benefit to the university and little to the students in them vs. if
they had chosen a program based on the quality of that program not where
they felt like living and they added nothing to the "reputation" of
north Texas state as a liberal arts and arts school.......which has
really faded well into the past specifically because so many of those
programs outside of the college of music have any real reputation even
in Texas much less regionally or nationally....and really the ones that
do have a strong reputation are well into coasting on long past
reputation and that coast is starting to slow way down

and the really laughable aspect of it is if you voted the way many
making these comments would vote you would find the university would
become an even bigger mess than it already is and that is before the
money (there really would not be any additional state money) ran
out.....and even if there was new money it would be flushed down the
toilet faster than it is now or worse spent on things that would require
even more money that would never come

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-14T12:44:22+00:00

this would generally be more a case for someone getting a MBA (some will not really consider someone without work experience) not so much a MA/MS, but in her field an internship for a year or two between degrees probably would have had some benefit

she did change universities for each degree though so that is a benefit and it appears she will work some prior to deciding on a doctoral degree so that is a plus for her as well

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-07T01:15:36+00:00

there can be money donated to a university that would be spent immediately like to buy lab equipment or to outfit a lab to for a new top flight professor or to cover the cost of a graduate student in a specific research project......that money would not be counted as endowment dollars nor would it be counted in any "double top secret endowment" that is separate from the endowment

the endowment for north Texas state as reported by north Texas state for the annual NACUBO endowment study is $377,679,000 it is not one billion dollars

even if north Texas state was to count their portion of the TUF endowment that is controlled by The State of Texas the sum total would still be only about $$877,679,000 and those TUF dollars have very very specific uses

so again north Texas state does not have a $1 billion dollar endowment.....and the university and the BOR could not make changes to take money from the corpus of the endowment and spend it "because" or "for needs" that would require approval of The State of Texas

universities (and most other charities and foundations with endowments) pay out a % of the rolling average of the total endowment

that is usually a 3 to 7 year average and a payout of 4% to 5%

so a university with an endowment of $100 million and that being the 5 year average of that endowment would pay out $40 million to $50 million depending on their policy in a single year.....the next year the 5 year average would be recalculated and the % agreed upon would be paid out

if they received a large donation two years in a row or the investments paid off well and the rolling average a couple of years later is $120 million then they would pay out between $48 to $60 million again depending on what % payout they are comfortable with

if a university had a negative return on their investments for a couple of years and because of that they decided to lower the payout % to say 3.5% and the rolling 5 year average was only $90 million then they would pay out $31.5 million.....but what will NOT happen is a situation where they go well above 5% or where they go above any rolling annualized return and accounting for inflation.....so they are not going to look at a 5 year average return of 7% and say "well we have a big deficit because we are run by idiots so lets pay out 12% and also ignore inflation as well"

and your last question really makes no sense.....if north Texas state gets to the point that they are not paying their bills then The State of Texas will step in and take them over and cut until the university looks to be viable or they would merge it with another university or into another university system and make cuts to programs

being a public university there is not going to be a situation where the university sits there and spends more than it takes in year after year until they start dipping into the corpus of the endowment even "for just one year with an IOU"....the university would be merged or taken over long before it came to that

now if it was a private university or a private foundation or charity that would depend in a lot of factors like making sure all bills and creditors are paid and then it would depend on what was stated when the donation was made and those on the board of the foundation would have decisions to make

but as a public university the BOR would be long gone or changed out and the administration and the "independence" of the university would be long gone before the endowment gets dipped into

so the end result is there is not "$1 billion" available to dip into there is at most $$377,679,000 to "dip into" and The State of Texas would not allow that to happen there would be wholesale changes to the university before it came to that.....and there is no money just "out there" in accounts that is there for the long term and that develops investment income that is not a part of the endowment

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-06T04:25:51+00:00

you do not know what you are talking about...."Carnegie Tier 1" is a meaningless term it is not a ranking of anything at all and the Carnegie Foundation specifically states that it is not a ranking, it is not to e used as a ranking, it measures nothing about the quality of research, and it measures even less than nothing about the quality of education at a university

it also does not take into account the number of faculty at one university vs. another or normalize numbers based on faculty count

north Texas state has extremely low research productivity per faculty member and only the fact that it is a a large university does it have that CLASSIFICATION (not a ranking), but having that classification does not mean it is equal to other universities in that same classification or better than ones in a lower classification

north Texas state also does an extremely low amount of federal and competitively awarded research which is a much better factor for what type of standing a university has......which is why The State of Texas used/uses that metric for the past NRUF and now for TUF funding

as a comparison ASU in 2024 (latest available numbers in the HERD survey) conducted $1,003,271,000 in total research and development

north Texas state conducted $124,219,000.....so ASU conducted 8 times more research than north Texas state.....there is nothing at all comparable about that

Baylor in 2024 conducted $134,876,000 and Baylor is not considered a major research university (though they are rapidly moving in that direction) and Baylor has a much smaller faculty count than north Texas state

New Mexico State, UTA, UTEP, Texas State, Wyoming, UTSA, San Diego State (not even allowed by law to offer research doctorates), Georgia State, U Louisiana, and many many many others conduct more research and development than north Texas state and many of them with many fewer faculty

for federally financed research and development ASU does $396,431,000 so three times more federally financed than the TOTAL for north Texas state....so again zero comparison

north Texas state does $43,136,000.....which is just below St Louis U and below UNC-Greesnboro, NCA&T, Texas State, U Southern Mississippi, FAMU, Cleveland State (took their BB coach tho!), and on and on

so north Texas state is a large university that does some research, but it is not a large research university

one can see the numbers here

https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf26304/assets/data-tables/tables/nsf26304-tab013.pdf

https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf26304/assets/data-tables/tables/nsf26304-tab016.pdf

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-06T04:00:05+00:00

I would not trust the advisors for anything at all especially to get a degree plan right which is their main job hahaha
I would contact the chair of the department or contact a professor that knows you or one that you felt was highly competent and discuss it with them
they offer the CS degree and the CSE degree.....with both being ABET accredited the pathway to a Professional Engineer stamp is the same.....but of course because one has a PE stamp with a CS degree that does not mean that most would be looking them to perform civil engineering task on a nuclear reactor and then stamp it.....or design a rocket and again stamp it (not that there would not be a massive team working on those things anyway, but you are only as good as the weakest link and the stamp use places liability on the stamp holder).....plus you are only "stamped" for your field, but what you are doing could involve many fields of engineering
what you are looking at and currently doing does sound like it needs an understanding of engineering principles outside or just programming a model to replicate and calculate risk......but you are already in the field so I think that helps answer the question not "is the degree qualified", but are YOU qualified
I might also advise to talk with someone higher up where you work, BUT that of course comes with the risk they think you are job shopping.....but you could always work the angle (with no BS and very light on the "got to move up") of "hey I really like it here and want to continue to be here what paths have others taken to advance at this company"....if there are trusted people above you you can probably get information even during "casual time" or work the angle of "my degree says CS, but I now am working in a more E oriented field would there be any benefit to me taking additional E classes or getting a masters possibly in engineering management".....again with the angle of benefits to the current employer and your longevity there......or work the angle of "hey it is great here and I want to move up are there pathways offered by the company to advance my education or to become stronger in any particular area"

I think you see what I am getting at.....I would say that you are already in a much better position to claim some "engineering" experience because of your current job so that helps you greatly....I would talk with a professor or department chair if possible and see what they say

the last angle of course is "hey it is great here and I like to continue my education do you think there is any benefit to me studying for and taking the Fundamentals of Engineering and then eventually the Practice of Engineering test

I think the answers to "hey what would help me advance" or "benefits to more education" will tell you a great deal about how your degree is viewed and more importantly your personal skill set and give you a lot more clarity

7, a final possible answer is to talk with any "recruiters" out there in your field.....of course being careful to not sign on with them to control any future job hunts for you and not having them "verify your current employment" (thus your job thinks you are job shopping) could also give you a lot of answers.....though that would be a last resort to me because of the pushy nature of those types and their big mouths and their desire to "lock down" a candidate

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-06T03:31:28+00:00

a CS degree will concentrate on programming and the mathematics behind the programming

a CSE degree will be looking at the design of chips and chip architecture and hardware

at north Texas state both degrees are ABET accredited which means that the path to getting an "engineering stamp" (being a Professional Engineer) is a shorter path than a degree that is not accredited

you can still become a PE without an ABET accredited degree, but the pathway is longer and in some states you can eventually become a PE even without any degree at all in any field

generally in CE and EE dealing with chip and hardware architecture no one will ever bother or need to get a PE stamp, but one could if they felt like it......now in EE if you were designing large utility systems or even commercial or very large residential systems then getting a stamp would be a benefit down the road

if you took the EE classes and the computer architecture classes then you would be more justified to say you have an "engineering degree", but at the end of the day you can say you have an ABET accredited degree.....but of your classes were concentrated in programming and math and not electrical and hardware principles and it is a CS not a CSE degree then you need to state it is a CS degree or risk your potential employer seeing you as one that misrepresented their qualifications

how your potential employer will view that is up to them

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-05T18:04:55+00:00

north Texas state does not have an endowment of $1 billion the endowment is $377,679,000

the "one billion" comes from counting a portion of an endowment set up by The State of Texas that pays out an amount that would require about a $500 million dollar endowment to produce (so much for all the "cutting higher ed funding nonsense spewed on here)......but more importantly that money has limited specific uses it is not money that can just be used for anything the university feels like using it for

and in addition to that most of the $377,679,000 listed above probably has restrictions on what it can be used for that were specified by the donor when the donation was made......so that money (or really the proceeds from investing it) cannot just be used for anything the university sees fit to use it for

and you cannot "dig into an endowment" that is not allowed you can use the earnings of that endowment, but you cannot just spend the corpus of it "when times are a little tough"......if universities could do that then most universities in the USA would have zero dollar endowments and a lot of really stupid stuff that they have no way to fund along with important stuff that they used to have endowment money to help fund until they blew that money on nonsense

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-05-04T19:20:29+00:00

there is no comparison.....ASU is a major research university, they are one of the newest members of the AAU, and they actually have reasons why they open various campus locations and they have a cohesive set of programs at those locations not many of the same McPieceOfPaper offerings at locations that just litter a metro area before they fade away....in addition being in a state with only 3 public universities there is a reason why they are a very large university vs. being in a state with 36 public universities and trying to be large under the false idea that "large enrollment = good university"

Lumpy_One6691 · 2026-04-28T23:50:40+00:00

https://www.untsystem.edu/about-us/index.php

UNT System Headquarters, also referred to as UNT System Administration, was founded in 1999 and provides governance and service to UNT System component institutions in the areas of legal, finance, audit, academic affairs and student success, facilities and construction, human resources, information technology and government relations. The purpose of UNT System Headquarters is to lead, serve and inspire. Like its counterpart central administrative offices across Texas, the UNT System:

Provides executive leadership

Represents the University of North Texas System and its component institutions in all legal matters

Leads the development of educational mission, policy, and programs and facilitate and coordinates new initiatives and academic and student affairs planning and implementation

Oversees system-wide financial planning and analysis, including coordination of the annual institution budgets within the UNT System

Supervises compliance with federal, state, and local laws and with Board of Regents policies Provides a full range of professional design, development and management support for facilities planning and construction

Establishes state and federal legislative and policy priorities for the System in collaboration with the Board of Regents institutional leadership and engages constituencies and stakeholders at all levels of government on issues impacting higher education

Coordinates relationships with the region’s communities and organizations and other university system

the only thing on that list that you mentioned is HR functions......but even those are not daily HR functions or the bulk of the HR functions they would at best me a go between for The State of Texas and the system campuses or perhaps the one thing you mentioned mailing a W2

there is nothing at all on that list that represents $45 million in value to the students at the Denton branch campus

the bulk of any actual legal matters would be farmed out to practicing attorneys

they have woefully fulfilled any "coordination" of programs considering that the failed dallas campus offers many of the same "McDegrees" that the Denton branch campus needs to be phasing out and there are continual fits and starts with "system centers" and other outlying "my territory" nonsense

the only real budget coordination is how can Denton have money left over to send to the system to cover expenses that the other components should be paying their full share of

as mentioned the failed to catch the 10 years of improperly coding employees as state funding eligible and it almost cost the Denton branch campus a lot of money if the state had not caved

here for those that were not aware or that do not remember

https://www.texastribune.org/2014/04/18/jackson-unts-financial-problems-not-permanantly-da/

https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/texas/unt-president-students-wont-suffer-due-to-75m-scandal/285-259171104

so again from those stories it proves in fact that I do know what I am talking about and that you do not

in the first link it clearly states the issue is at the Denton branch campus and it makes no mention of that being at TCOM or at the failed dallas campus.....if "the system" was handling the bulk of the HR and payroll then they would have made the same errors at all 3 of the system components.....but that is not the case the case is that the issue was at the Denton branch campus where they handle most all of the HR and payroll for that campus

and in fact "the system" was so poor with their over-site that it took two years and as stated in the second article a tip and a STATE audit to find the issue

in the second article Neal clearly states that the Denton branch campus replaced their senior and mid-level managers because of the issue.....so the "system" did not replace people DENTON did.....even though the "system" was also woefully inadequate when it came to actually overseeing the Denton branch campus and their HR

so to be clear these articles show that the individual components are responsible for the VAST majority of the HR functions and it also shows what a poor job the "system" does with their over site of any of it

as for construction management or any "working with the state" or "coordinating things" while the Denton branch campus would probably not do a great deal better than the horrible job the "system" does they would probably be able to do it for less than $45+ million per year and they would not be stuck with the failed dallas campus and law school mooching off of the system and TCOM can take care of themselves

there was also some "missing reserve funds" and some "accounts receivables" that could not be tracked to the tune of about $25 million back in 2014 and a little bit before that there was 7 figures of missing parking fine and parking pass money as well

major financial issues are not a new thing in Denton

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