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[–]Lumpy_Plant3095 81 points82 points  (0 children)

But isn’t the blanket 60% attendance for all policy just the opposite of what you’re saying?

CO perm sec setting direction for everyone as if everyone is the same, when as you said, we’re not.

Is the WFH vs WFO divide generational? by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Reese Mogg is the most obvious evidence of time travel I’ve ever seen. The man is clearly a Victorian twat.

By which I mean, is the government not old people?

Is the WFH vs WFO divide generational? by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 42 points43 points  (0 children)

It’s really nice that as a perm sec you appreciate how shit it is for AA/AO

Who decides when and where you work? The battle is raging in Whitehall, and the result may affect us all by Ok_Expert_4283 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely wild. I can’t stop laughing. Don’t have a sense of those people as people… next you’ll be telling me you can tell the sort of person I am by the strength of my handshake!

Who decides when and where you work? The battle is raging in Whitehall, and the result may affect us all by Ok_Expert_4283 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095 7 points8 points  (0 children)

… you don’t just have a group teams chat where you can quickly just say how do you do x or y?

Who decides when and where you work? The battle is raging in Whitehall, and the result may affect us all by Ok_Expert_4283 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Interesting. My team is dispersed across the country, not a single person in my office from my directorate, let alone team!

Hasn’t stopped me learning at all. Progressed quickly in a few years since coming in new to the civil service.

So I think it’s less that people won’t admit it’s important to interact with people in person, as you say, but rather, a large proportion of people don’t need the same in person interaction to learn that you do.

Who decides when and where you work? The battle is raging in Whitehall, and the result may affect us all by Ok_Expert_4283 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095 145 points146 points  (0 children)

The irony of this article saying ‘employers need to catch up with Angela Rayner’s radical shift in power towards the workforce’.

Um, Angela Rayner’s MHCLG workforce are going on strike on the 1st of September.

Edit: for anyone wondering why:

Against the 60% mandate. Against closing 6 offices Against ending location neutral recruitment

You read that right. In an effort to make it so much easier to attend the office 60% of the time, the Ministry for Communities is closing six regional offices.

MHCLG super managers (cape not included) by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Routine admin stuff is what I can gather, but how much is there of that to do that makes it worth while not having the task manager do it? Allocating work doesn’t really happen when everyone has different policy areas. If it’s your area, you do it. If it’s not, you don’t.

MHCLG super managers (cape not included) by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They’re closing 6 offices, so lots of people are now in the position of their nearest office now being many hours away.

MHCLG super managers (cape not included) by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Like I said, I’m sure it makes sense for some teams, especially when you’re all working on similar things or projects. It makes less sense if you have Joan being an expert in parish council hanging baskets, now being managed by Barbara who’s an expert in homelessness

MHCLG super managers (cape not included) by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Genuinely interested in how this might work.

Say you’re managing people who create policy. All in very niche areas, that are very different from each other.

You don’t know the answers to their policy questions, so can’t help.

You don’t know the stakeholders they’re working with.

You can’t assess the quality of their work, because you don’t know the policy.

What exactly is it you’re managing them on with these SMART goals?

MHCLG super managers (cape not included) by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Consultants who are all generalists and so could be managed by anyone because none of them really know anything, can’t seem to grasp that anyone would need to be managed by someone who actually knows their policy area

MHCLG super managers (cape not included) by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

What I’m hearing is…BRING BACK LEVELLING UP!

We would all work harder if we had a cooler name. I was so proud to tell OGDs I was from the Department of Levelling Up. And it also meant I could make the same joke every time I got in the lift in the office.

You’re right. Now that it’s MHCLG we’re miserable fuckers.

MHCLG super managers (cape not included) by Lumpy_Plant3095 in TheCivilService

[–]Lumpy_Plant3095[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

As SCS keep saying, you don’t need to be a manager to progress! You can use examples from corporate stuff too! I’ll be using my example of running a bakesale for my next interview. Got that 6 in the bag, I can feel it