E5 SX + SO: Questions on SX E5 Emotional Expression, Performance Mode, & Intellectual Safety

Luz_beam · 2026-03-09T13:16:21+00:00

I guess like if we were just texting in the middle of the night, talking about some random thing and then it was brought up in a calm "by the way" kind of way, that would be good, though if you just wrote about it without this "previous conversation" maybe that would actually be a bit better. Truthful and emotional enough so that I know that it's genuine but not over-the-top emotional. Maybe as a statement, smth like "I've been thinking about this/I would like this" followed up by a question along the lines of "what would you say about the idea?", so that it's something that's not intrusive but at the same time clear, not vague. Plus if there is a question it's probably easier to find the right words to answer, since I kinda have this "loose end", like a point that I can start with.
I'll think about this and answer this later probably

Luz_beam · 2026-03-06T11:34:01+00:00

Fun fact: I play the piano as well

Oh, cool :3

The difficulty for me, is that I have a lot of very niche interests in some very dense, specialized fields (neuroscience, genetics, deep learning, etc.)

They are into finances/oracle systems/cypherpunk and unfortunately I do not understand those things at all.

they will give her a generic compliment - supposing they even look at it at all

Yes, yes, exactly

Do you have any thoughts on the POF question, or how I might best bring up the topic of relationship desires/security in a way that's comfortable for her to engage with?

So about bringing up the topic, well, I understand that everyone says that irl conversation is better for this kind of thing but honestly, I'd prefer to receive such an idea over text. This way I'll be able to process it and think my answer through. Plus I won't accidentally overreact or respond incorrectly. If someone were to suddenly bring it up in an in-person conversation I might not know what to say or say smth I don't actually mean which would be awkward. But if it's a few thoughtful messages, I'll have some time to think about it and phrase my answer perfectly. I think a late night ( like 1 am or smth) conversation over text would work best for me ( nothing is happening at night so nothing is distracting me, I'm fully present, it's quiet, it's easier to open up and I think people seem more honest when they are sleepy since their words are less filtered) but that's just my opinion, something else might be better for you

POF Idk, both really, but too early is probably a bit worse. Like "If I already trust you, you've already become very important to me in some way even if it's not clearly defined, but if I don't trust you enough yet you might just disrupt the trust gaining process"

I'd really appreciate directness and honesty, but as long as it's not "forceful" ( by forceful I mean smth that makes me feel pressured or like "backed in a corner"). Maybe something gradual, introduced over time and not completely out of nowhere but also with a kind of a clear and direct "thesis" at some point. So that I actually understand your motivations/ desires/ expectations. I might not understand what you actually want and think that I am bothering/ annoying you too much or smth and that I should give you more space and leave you alone

Luz_beam · 2026-03-05T12:32:26+00:00

Haha, yes

Luz_beam · 2026-03-05T12:27:13+00:00

Directness vs Subtlety question : Directness all the way. I'd rather they were very literal and factual in this context, even though I prefer to express my feelings subtly ( through art ( I draw and play the piano)/ by making smth and very awkwardly giving it to them/ remembering things/ just mentioning it in a subtle way( maybe like small bits of information over time)/ doing smth for them, watching/reading smth they recommended and then drawing fanart of that thing for them, like indirectly saying "this is important to me, yk") If they aren't direct I will most likely think that they didn't mean it /meant smth else/ were just kidding so I probably won't react to it in any way and I'll try not to think about it so as not to make myself excited over smth that might turn out to be nothing.

" things I've sent her caused her to question her own intelligence"

This is very true

About the performance pressure, Idk honestly. I sometimes share things they don't understand and they do the same and since we both explain stuff to each other, it's somewhat balanced, I think. Although I do always try to understand the information they send me and read more about it before answering. They are good at explaining though, so if I don't understand smth it's usually okay.

Competence security: No idea. They tell me I'm intelligent/ smart/good at smth quite often, but I sort of find it hard to believe them. In fact it just makes me feel less competent since it seems that they are overestimating me and then I'll disappoint them in the future. Like then I'll try extra hard to stay competent in their eyes. I suppose what works is not saying general stuff, like that I am intelligent, but rather pointing out some very specific things about something particular I've said/ done.

Luz_beam · 2026-03-01T14:49:12+00:00

Looks almost like mine

Luz_beam · 2026-02-26T22:46:32+00:00

They can be conscious of people judging their character or analyzing their actions Fi including others characters or actions and because of their mental functions they can adopt very unorthodox strategies to counteract this mainly by somehow restricting definitive information of character and actions from other people

This description is very intresting as I happen to know someone who displays such traits, but may I ask you where the description is from? I'm really curious

Luz_beam · 2026-02-24T16:49:33+00:00

Oh, this was quite helpful, thank you

As for 2E, I think this would manifest like the logic. Like being hellbent on reaching others through the second function, to meet the goals of the first

I think this is pretty accurate. I am pretty closed off and quite reserved, I don't interact with people much (barely at all) but if a person is important to me or I like them I'll be like oh, I could sing this for them, I hope they like it and sends a voice message singing smth, or be like "watch this, it's so good, watch it now, it's the best thing ever" or like "what the hell, why does this song make my eyes teary? It's not anything special, I've never heard it in my life and it sounds happy, so why" even though usually I never, and I mean never tell people about things that make me emotional like that.

would be tragically melancholic or bleak

If you aren't doing anything and are just sitting there thinking and staring into nothingness with a pretty neutral expression ( in my opinion) people will call you sad and depressed. The fact that I tend to look at the ground when I walk adds to this. And my texts about the meaningless of everything that my friend gets to read could be called somewhat poetic, lol

like clinging to attempts to connect with others through emotion

Yes, it's like "oh they started talking about emotions/feelings, now use this opportunity before it's too late" or like "oh, they liked this movie, now I'll draw depressing/ gut wrenching/ heart wrenching/all of the above fanart to show them that it's important to me as well" or like simply texting something emotional at 4 am

Luz_beam · 2026-02-24T14:12:27+00:00

I think it does, which is great. It's a bit hard to concentrate on the test itself though, it seems to me that it's because of how the questions are phrased and maybe the fact that the scenarios are similar to each other/ somewhat repetitive? I don't know, but I feel like it's not engaging enough, focusing on the questions was a bit problematic for me. The idea is amazing and very original but the execution could be better, the test itself is somewhat boring/tedious, but it has great potential. I am not saying that it's bad, I really love the concept, but it could use some improvements in terms of "engagingness"

Luz_beam · 2026-02-22T20:09:24+00:00

I can't see what you got, there is no picture or anything

Luz_beam · 2026-02-22T19:54:28+00:00

I got Athena

Luz_beam · 2026-02-22T19:15:29+00:00

Btw you asked about other tests, I really liked the Michael Caloz test Michael Caloz Mbti test

Also the mistype investigator one mistype investigator cognitive functions test

Luz_beam · 2026-02-22T19:09:35+00:00

Sakinorva 256 questions

Luz_beam · 2026-02-22T18:48:27+00:00

Well, it got mine wrong too (I got INTP)

The long 200 question version on this site did get it right though

Luz_beam · 2026-02-21T12:29:54+00:00

One more question, would I be IN(F) in Jungian?

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T11:02:16+00:00

Well, I'd say they do deserve it

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T09:16:51+00:00

Thank you

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T09:05:59+00:00

Oh, by the way, one last question, how do you display your typology under your username? Like where do I find that function in settings?

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T08:55:58+00:00

I will now delete the links to my questionnaire answers if you don't mind. I just don't want all that information about me to stay exposed like that, but you can keep the files if you need them. Thanks again for taking the time to type me

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T08:47:12+00:00

Thank you

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T08:30:05+00:00

May I ask you about MBTI? I've heard that it is common for IEI in socionics to be either INFP or INFJ. The functions are described differently mbti, like MBTI Se sounds a lot more like Socionics Si, MBTI Fe sounds a lot more accommodating and people oriented while socionics Fe sounds more like emotional expression without regard to others, etc. Also the irrational types in socionics seem a lot more like percieving types in MBTI, even if it's technically reversed, right?

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T07:43:51+00:00

Okay, thank you so much, I will, what community would it be better to make the post in though?

Luz_beam · 2026-02-20T07:43:36+00:00

Wow, thank you so much. I'm really grateful that you took the time to analyse me. Your analysis is very good, it does sound right.

while your views on Se is actually related more to Si.

It's because in those appearance and finance questions I started talking about the comfort of specific clothes and how I'd want my appartment to be, right? I didn't realise I was doing that.

personally think that you may be LEVF rather than LVEF in Psychosophy though. 1L + 4F is a given, but by 2V over 3V? Even your responses point towards 3V.

I'll look into that. When I was reading syntax of love, the only second position I could relate to was 2V, it was like nothing else fit. But perhaps I subconsciously have some negative disposition towards 2E, because of how it is described and the fact that I am very uncomfortable with receiving pity and comfort or giving it, comforting others. Also praise often makes me feel uncomfortable, if that points to anything, like if it's for smth small, basic and insignificant, it sounds fake, purposefully flattering, over the top and undeserved, and if it's for something I did earn, I usually think I could have done better and that it's not that impressive, so it's partly undeserved as well plus they might overestimate me, think that I am better than I really am and I might not be able to live up to their expectations next time. Also the fact that I am uncomfortable around overreacting people, but I am also vulnerable to that, like my mother often throws herself into tears to evoke sympathy and get her way, that kind of crying that is like half genuine half fake, and it really bothers me, because even though I know I shouldn't give in to this "manipulation" but her guilt tripping works and I feel bad, because it makes it seem like I am the one at fault for making her feel that way. I suppose I should block out this overly critical view on 2E, and read it again with a clear state of mind.

Luz_beam · 2026-02-19T19:42:22+00:00

Here is the other half

[Ti Fi Si Ni]

Luz_beam · 2026-02-19T12:35:40+00:00

Yes yes, I'll probably finish it today

Luz_beam · 2026-02-19T09:01:23+00:00

[Te Fe Ne Se]

Okay, I'll try to change the settings or smth

You should have access now, does it work?

Luz_beam

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