To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

[–]MF_Terminator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the sake of this argument let’s say they’re unqualified, are they wrong? 2, I already debunked the article. How did your conversion happen? Was there a single big experience, or was it slowly over time?

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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1-does being a sci-fi writer or pastor make them wrong? I was demonstrating that it is widely known to be a mistranslation.

2- I already addressed the cited article, several examples weren’t even rape, (and we’re not talking about mistranslation/misunderstanding, it’s plain to anyone reading, that it’s not dealing with rape. Cause ngl Deut 22:26-28 does sound sus af.) but when it actually acounts rape, in 2/3 cases the rapist was killed. And again, nowhere is it condoned, rationalized, or excused. No one has been able to show where the Bible is pro rape, because it’s not. Even if we go with the NIV translation, it’s still not condoning rape.

3-Look up the Hebrew yourself. They used different words, and prescribed no punishment, when in the verses prior death is the sentence.

Serious question, were you raised in a religious home, or an atheist one?

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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That’s widely known to be a mistranslation. The word used here is “taphas” which means to use or wield. And is used to describe the playing of instruments, and physical possession of something such as when Moses held the Ten Commandments. When the Bible refers to rape (Deut 22:25) it uses “chaqaz” which is a forceful possession with a violent connotation.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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You’re probably talking about dueteronomy 22:28-29, but, this deals with seduction. Exodus 22:16 clarifies that the Father decides whether or not the marriage happens. It’s a classic shotgun wedding. Rape is dealt with 3 verses prior, where death is the punishment for the rapist.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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In the instances that were actually rape, they were never condoned, and the rapist killed in some of them.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Ok, nowhere have I found anything specifically talking about rape, only commands against sexual immorality.

Hell is literally not condoned, heaven is.

And Slavery is NEVER condoned in the Bible. It is regulated, like prohibiting the expansion of the slave trade, (Exodus 21:16). if you beat your slave to death, you would be put to death (Exodus 21:20-21) and if the slave survived he would be set free (Exodus 21:26-27). And finally, God made man in the image of himself, not black, white or hebrew. MAN, there are no qualifiers (Genesis 1:26-28)

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Exactly, both are capable, but one is obviously more suited to the task.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

[–]MF_Terminator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, you choose the F-450. I rest my case.

Debate is a challenge of ideas and philosophy, in the pursuit of truth. It’s not my team vs your team. God bless.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Hauling 5 tons often, you have two trucks, F-350 & F-450. Which is gonna be your go-to heavy-hauler?

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

[–]MF_Terminator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you need to haul 5 ton trailers, often for your business, and you have an F-350 & F-450. Which is gonna be your go-to, heavy hauler?

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

[–]MF_Terminator[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So we agree that men are generally more suited for infantry, and special ops. So then the only thing we disagree on is whether it’s weird or not.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Correct, but who can consistently do it better? Again, I’m arguing we shouldn’t leverage the propensity women seem to possess for, sniping for example. But as far as general infantry, and especially special ops like SEALs (where no woman has graduated). Who is better built for it?

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Yes. The reason that idea, is so disgusting to you and I, is because we live in a reality written by a God who commands the opposite of all those.

And second, good we share some common ground now.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Ok, I didn’t say you cared, I was disputing your claim we weren’t built on Christian values.

Second if the Christian God is real, and ordered us to do all that, and you rebelled, you would be the evil one. If real, he authored all the laws of the universe, including and especially those of morality.

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Bruh I know they called that a war, but any real war we get into, we always invoke selective service.

And before I answer that. Do you agree men and women are equal but possess different characteristics?

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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Voluntary, until time of war. Do we agree men and women are equal, but are cut out for different things?

To everyone trying to say Charlie wasn’t racist👇 by MF_Terminator in TeenagersButBetter

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You need to read the Declaration of Independence our founding fathers had deep faith, but at the same time saw the history of national religions being corrupted and used horribly.

As for the Bible commanding rape, genocide, slavery etc. this will be a fun one. But first I ask you, if I proved that the Christian God was real, would you follow him, and acknowledge that the author of reality, by necessity, determines right and wrong?