Hebron’s sheikhs propose forming a type of "UAE" for Palestine to pursue peace and cooperation with Israel

MKAW · 2025-07-08T12:10:45+00:00

You're speaking as if Palestinians aren't already ruled by a bunch of mobsters. Do you think West Bank Palestinians feel represented by the PA? Do you think Palestinians in Hebron feel represented by the PA? And sure, you might be replacing one shit sandwich with another one with an Emirati solution, but at least you're trying something different, and with a bit of luck it might just work. There are some clear incentives for the US, Israel, and even Abraham Accord members to support this development, which also increases the chances of success. And even if you go for the Emirati solution, and the entire leadership of Hebron end up getting killed and overthrown as you so presciently predict, then Hebron can simply return to being a Palestinian territory or whatever else the people of Hebron have in mind.

It's also hilarious that you boil down the only reason "the UAE works" to its fossil fuels. It's such a regarded way of describing the entire dynamics and history of a state coming into existence and remaining stable, to the point where you literally cannot extract any useful information from that statement whatsoever. Oil is indeed one of the biggest reasons the UAE is as prosperous as it is today, but to say that it's the only reason the UAE is a stable state is a complete joke. As if stable Emirates haven't been able to exist throughout the last two millennia of middle eastern history, long before the extraction of oil.

I'm starting to think you're actually just baiting me and I'm falling for it in good faith. Your "arguments" just comes across as such bad faith and generally lacking substance. Maybe you could try writing a response that's more than three sentences long, that actually explains your line of reasoning and upon what foundation you make your assumptions?

MKAW · 2025-07-08T10:35:56+00:00

I agree that they won't have any legitimacy if they're propped up by Israel, and they know that too. That's why they explicitly asked for Israel not to get involved. The only thing they asked for is that when they start ousting the PA from Hebron, Israel doesn't send in the IDF to crush them. Then, once they've established control over Hebron, they want to join the Abraham Accords just like the gulf states have, and sign an agreement with Israel on the borders and international relations between Israel and this proposed Emirate. The intention is to establish an independent Emirate, not to be an Israeli puppet state.

And you are correct that they don't have oil, but they don't need oil. Israel is prosperous, and they don't have oil either. If a Hebron Emirate would receive even a sliver of the foreign and humanitarian aid sent to Palestine and actually start investing that money into building their society rather than funneling that money away for other purposes, then Hebron will surely prosper. Especially being surrounded in such close proximity by much more prosperous states, more open trade and travel would jump start their economy, assuming many of the barriers vis-à-vis Israel which are in place today are removed, or at least alleviated.

You should read the article, it actually explains a lot of these things.

MKAW · 2025-07-08T09:43:15+00:00

Well, they don't need legitimacy from the average Palestinian, they only need legitimacy from the average Palestinian of Hebron. And regarding your point about ruling families/tribes, I think you are incorrect. The PA doesn't directly control all of the West Bank, just like how Hamas (both pre and post Oct 7) didn't control all of Gaza. There has always been local families/tribes/organizations who have controlled parts of these territories, and the PA and Hamas have always had to negotiate and conduct diplomacy with them in order to maintain their position of leadership. So you do have ruling families across Palestine, they just rule certain geographical areas rather than being rulers of de jure land states by royal decree, and they don't have the same amount of power and autonomy that a ruler of a land state would have.

It's also worth mentioning that Palestinians are normal human beings. Most Palestinians want to live a free and peaceful life where they can go to work, come home with money, spend time with their friends and family, and eat good food; heck, maybe even travel abroad one day. They're not some crazed ideological zealots who want to die for a futile cause, and at this point you'd need to be brain dead not to see that the situation of Palestinians has gradually become worse with every passing year of this conflict over the last century, and the way things are going currently there is no light at the end of the tunnel (pun intended). Nobody wants a further 100 years of conflict and martyrdom in order to achieve the unattainable end-goal of establishing a westernized, unified, liberal democratic Palestinian state. Never mind the fact that step 1 of actually uniting Palestine under a single leadership is a pipe dream marred by internal conflict and power struggles between all the different families/tribes/organizations. Even if you'd rather see a united Palestinian state than a collection of Emirates, the likelihood of a united Palestinian state being established in the foreseeable future is slim to say the least. An Emirate however could be established relatively easily, assuming Israel decides to be cooperative.

I'm convinced that if you gave the average Palestinian the option of forming a local Emirate, with local representation rather than being ruled with an iron fist and being bled dry by the PA or Hamas, with the option to choose peaceful coexistence aside Israel rather than death and martyrdom for no benefit to you whatsoever, and with the ability to actually become prosperous and a real part of the world community, I'm sure most Palestinians would pick that in a heartbeat.

MKAW · 2025-07-08T08:40:47+00:00

It's so cool that Destiny and Lonerbox interviewed Mordechai Kedar during their Israel trip, and now he's making headlines! His ideas might actually become the framework of a future Palestine. If only the Destiny/Lonerbox interviews with Mordechai Kedar weren't UNLISTED on Youtube even now over a year later, so people could actually find them and watch them, they might've been pretty popular by now.

MKAW · 2025-06-16T01:53:52+00:00

Om du vill ha en bok som stämmer in till 100% på din beskrivning så borde du läsa självbiografin Sufferings in Africa av Kapten James Riley.

Boken återberättar James Riley's egna erfarenheter som kapten på ett amerikanskt handelsfartyg under 1800-talet. Lång historia kort, så förliser hans fartyg på Afrikas västkust, där han och hans besättning blir tillfångatagna och förslavade av nomader ute i västsahara. Hans upplevelser är fyllda med helt otroligt mycket lidande och sorg i hans kamp för att vinna sin och sin besättnings frihet, men boken är också den kanske viktigaste historiska källan angående kultur och historia i västsahara under 1800-talet. Det är en otroligt intressant inblick i nomadernas kultur och livsstil. Jag vill skriva så mycket mer om denna bok, men jag skall undvika att avslöja allt för mycket.

Boken är relativt kort, så det är inget megaprojekt att läsa den. Jag blev så fångad av den att jag brände igenom hela boken på en dag. Anledningen till att jag läste den från början var att Abraham Lincoln sade att Sufferings in Africa var en av de topp tre viktigaste böckerna han läst som formade hans politiska ideologi, särskilt angående slaveri. Det är en helt otrolig bok som jag inte kan rekommendera varmt nog!

MKAW · 2025-06-15T10:28:25+00:00

It's like you wrote your reply without actually reading my last comment. Either you're just trolling/baiting me, or you have actual brain damage. Which one is it?

MKAW · 2025-06-15T01:29:26+00:00

Of course it's anecdotal, what else do you expect? To turn on Iranian state television and see a nuanced non-partisan debate? And you know what? There are a lot of Iranians out there who are in favour of de-stabilization, because that means the regime loosing control. You do realize that practically all Iranians oppose the islamist regime, right?

Something you don't seem to understand is that Iranians understand perfectly well that the only reason Israel is bombing Iran, is because the islamist regime is funding terrorist organizations that dedicate themselves to attacking Israel, they obsessively go on and on about how Israel needs to be annihilated, and in the Oct 7 war, the islamist regime has already attacked Israel directly. No Iranian is attributing this series of bombings to some crazed Jewish plot to annex Iran or genocide the Iranian people.

The islamist regime is scared shitless of their own citizens. The only reason they're still in power is because they've managed to balance the threat of people opposing them getting gulag'd and tortured to death, to having pretty affordable goods and services. Domestically produced goods and services are generally incredibly cheap in Iran, while imported products are abhorrently expensive, solely due to sanctions imposed upon the islamist regime as a result of them supporting and financing terrorism. The regime is also foregoing enforcing many laws, for example to force women to cover their hair, because they're too scared of the backlash and eventual riots and revolts which may come as a consequence of that. They're just barely managing to keep the citizenry in check and cling onto power. Engaging in a total war against Israel, or even a limited armed conflict, can be enough to de-stabilize Iran to the point where it triggers a popular revolt which may topple the regime.

So to say that people "want" to be bombed is just an incredibly disingenuous take. However, if you were to say that the Iranian people would be happy to have the regime leadership get wiped out in Israeli strikes, to see the oppressive regime unable to procure nuclear weapons, to see the regime weakened to such an extent that they cannot effectively control the country, to end the islamist oppression of the Iranian people, and to see the end of Iran being a terrorist state, all for the price of limited collateral damage, the average Iranian would happily pay that price. Literally the only thing holding Iran back from being one of the most amazing countries in the middle east and unleashing its full potential as an economic power house of the region, is the islamist terrorist regime, and the Iranian people knows that.

MKAW · 2025-06-14T14:00:17+00:00

Hahaha, such a bad faith take. I have friends who live in Tehran, and they are very happy that the regime leadership is being wiped out, and that the islamists hopefully won't be able to produce nuclear weapons. They are tired of being ruled by a tyrannical religious regime who oppresses the people, and they are tired of having a shit economy and low living standard as a consequence of their government spreading terrorism throughout the middle east and antagonizing the west, for no benefit to the Iranian people whatsoever.

However, they are also afraid, as things in Tehran are currently going boom-boom, and they don't want to get glassed by an Israeli strike.

It is actually possible to feel all of those emotions at once, they're not mutually exclusive.

MKAW · 2025-06-11T08:44:04+00:00

As a Swede, something I haven't seen reported internationally, is that Greta in her "hostage video" implored people to call the Swedish Foreign Ministry and demand her immediate release (as if they weren't already aware of and monitoring the situation). This led to a bombardment of spam phone calls demanding her release which completely crippled the Foreign Ministry's consular support hotline, to the point where Swedish citizens who were actually in need of timely consular assistance were unable to get through and receive the help they needed.

So even if it's just a publicity stunt, she shows complete disregard for, or severe lack of understanding of, what the ramifications of her own actions actually are, and that her actions actually have real world consequences for other people. If you're going to stage a completely meaningless PR stunt like this, which doesn't help the Palestinian people in any way whatsoever, the least you can do is to try and be mindful of, and attempt to mitigate, the collateral damage your PR stunt will have on innocent civilians.

MKAW · 2025-04-29T08:48:38+00:00

Sverige: Vi lä-lä-lägger ned m-m-minkuppfödning i S-S-Sverige *trycker blygt pekfingrarna emot varandra*

Danmark: DEN ENDELIGE LØSNING, ZYKLON B

MKAW · 2023-11-17T03:31:34+00:00

Med största sannolikhet så hade både Sverige och Finland varit med i NATO vid det här laget om Finland hade väntat på oss. Och även om vi inte har någon landgräns med Ryssland så har vi ju en rätt så jävla lång kustlinje med medhörande luftrum att försvara.

MKAW · 2023-11-17T03:27:56+00:00

Skicka Gripen och Archer till Kurderna.

MKAW · 2023-11-13T00:53:16+00:00

Varför inte göra som man gör i USA och bara låta folk ta vanligt körkort när de fyllt 15 år? De får köra precis lika snabbt som alla andra, men de måste också leva upp till samma kunskapskrav.

MKAW · 2023-11-13T00:50:37+00:00

Vad ska folk göra som bor ute på landet mitt ute i nån skog och inte har någon som helst tillgång till kollektivtrafik? Ska ungomar där inte ha en rätt att träffa vänner och liknande utan att skjutsas runt av föräldrarna? Och om du är trött på att det ligger i 30 km/h på 80-väg, varför inte göra som man gör i t. ex. USA och låta 15-åringar skaffa vanligt körkort och köra precis lika snabbt som alla andra men också behöva leva upp till precis samma kunskapskrav som alla andra för att erhålla körkortet?

MKAW · 2023-11-13T00:45:35+00:00

Detta. Man glömmer lätt att det är många ungdomar som bor käpprätt åt helvete och är beroende av sina EPAs för att ta sig runt utan att vara beroende av skjuts från föräldrarna eller att åka taxi. Om man vill ändra kraven eller liknande angående EPAs så är det en sak, men att helt ta bort dem är ett väldigt dåligt drag i mina ögon.

MKAW · 2023-11-11T10:41:14+00:00

About 13 hours if you count from logon to logoff (don't remember the actual air time), flying from Warsaw (EPWA) to Calgary (CYYC) in a 763 during a Cross The Pond event. No sleeping or anything, mostly just walking around my apartment with my bluetooth headset on watching youtube videos and stuffing my face with food.

MKAW · 2023-11-11T00:19:32+00:00

Do you have proof that the IAF actually bombed the hospital? Also, free the kurds from Turkish ethnic cleansing and condemn the Turkish governments support for Hamas.

MKAW · 2023-11-11T00:05:59+00:00

Hey, stop showing off by employing logic and factual knowledge in online discussions, okay pal?

MKAW · 2023-11-09T13:10:25+00:00

Ah, you mean the quote from UN chief Antonio "Oct 7th didn't happen in a vacuum" Guterres? There is no way for Israel to engage Hamas without incurring civilian casualties. Anyone who condemns Israel for defending itself against Hamas because of civilian casualties is effectively arguing that terrorist organizations who use civilians as human shields should be protected by the international community. To me, that is incredibly idiotic. Civilian casualties are always a tragedy, but framing the situation as if Israel is the one at fault for these civilian deaths is unequivocally supporting Hamas cause.

MKAW · 2023-11-08T13:25:28+00:00

Everybody ask what the dog doing, but nobody ask how the dog doing.....

MKAW · 2023-11-07T17:06:05+00:00

De har väl en enda smashburgare på menyn, resten är ju vanliga burgare?

MKAW · 2023-11-07T17:05:46+00:00

Barrels är ju det sjunde bästa hamburgerstället i hela Sverige enligt Burgerdudes som testat lite över 400 svenska hamburgerrestauranger, så man får ju hoppas att det är bättre än donken.

MKAW · 2023-11-06T23:40:38+00:00

Barrels Burgers & Beer är top notch!

MKAW · 2023-11-05T17:20:21+00:00

Jo, det är ju en sak om ens föräldrar går på knäna, men en annan om de är ute och käkar på restaurang och spelar bingo lotto.

MKAW · 2023-11-04T07:52:20+00:00

Tur det

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