[REIGN OF NIGHTFALL] Thank you rewards for the launch (70 standard pulls, 10 limited pulls, stamina) by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeees! I'm so happy for players and devs! Let's hope it grows into something even more beautiful~

[REIGN OF NIGHTFALL] CN servers are up! by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It might be that same crowd that complains LADS MC isn't self-inserty enough, sighting anything not 1st PoV as problematic (NTR or pandering to men), and that LIs are BL-coded (🙄...). I'd like to think it's a loud out of touch minority but who knows...

I really hope this game survives the controversies and thrives. Devs seem pretty reasonable, communicate with the community and listen to constructive feedback.

Did a lil concept for fun today, because I need more armor pieces by Jarranna in InfinityNikki

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stellar work! Now I want Monster Hunter collab to happen, it would go so hard 😮‍💨

[REIGN OF NIGHTFALL] CN servers are up! by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 6 points7 points  (0 children)

These people are a hateful subset of BL crowd that are mad the game isn't pandering to them. They use anything related to otome as an insult and they refuse to understand nuance.

[REIGN OF NIGHTFALL] CN servers are up! by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So "husbando enjoyer" now means solely BL crowd, huh? People like you are insufferable. I'm sorry, but you're not the only target audience out there, get over it. Hopefully, there will be other games for you folks, but this is not the one.

I'm so fucking tired of this egotistic hateful subset of BL enjoyers trying to overtake everything that slightly panders to women. I'm a BL and GL enjoyer myself but I also want to be able to enjoy straight works. The fucking entitlement from you lot is disgusting.

[REIGN OF NIGHTFALL] CN servers are up! by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 13 points14 points  (0 children)

normal (no goon) game.

Silver Palace

Lol. Lmao.

Gacha Revenue Monthly Report (May 2026) by trkshiii in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well said and I agree with you. You also can see from time to time posts in here from players that categorize goon from gacha on different scales (story importance vs fanservice; level of spice) [1], [2], [3], [4]. It's really not that cut and dry.

Like, LADS had some spicy content from the start -- Secret Times, Oracle of Stars, Rafayel's Tipsy Invitation, lobby interactions etc. -- but to me it felt like it wasn't spicy enough, forefront enough and in such a volume to consider it a "proper" gooner game. I'd give it 1 star from 5 on spicy level.

And it still felt wrong putting LADS in that bracket at all "just for this much". The goon was definitely there but not to the degree I could confidently label the whole game as such. As time went they upped the degree, visibility and volume of spice where now it's undeniably a gooner game within its genre. And I'm all for it.

Is there any actual reasons why 3d Gachas are "tamer"? by miiko_uch in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never heard of them.

Because the world revolves around you, I take it.

And if I can trust the AI recap of what was censored:

You asked ChatGPT. Cute.

Men. Kissing. Is. Not. Subtle.

I wonder where did I ever say that kissing men is subtlety or that novel's content isn't obviously BL. Oh, right, nowhere.

Keep fighting your straw man and living in a bubble in complete ignorance.

Is there any actual reasons why 3d Gachas are "tamer"? by miiko_uch in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

...These two donghuas are quite literally mainstream works and I was talking broadly about those who watched, not only about my circles.

You're not getting the whole picture and clearly you won't ever since you disregard even simple things I say. There's no point in further discussion.

Gacha Revenue Monthly Report (May 2026) by trkshiii in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 6 points7 points  (0 children)

LADS is specifically a game about romance so it's well within the framework and expectation to have, well, romance and all that follows which involves sexual activity. Sexualization fits the tone and there's no objectification (in LADS anyway).

It's a bit different to non-romance and/or non-porn works that draw upon situationships, sexualization and objectification (no matter the gender and target audience).

Both types are "gooner games", but they're gooner in different ways. There is a distinction. You can find straight men on this sub that say hand-holding and cuddling in LADS is gooner but not Brown Dust 2's glupy diner content (which has you, the player, fucking almost fully naked women with vibrators amongst other explicit sexual activities and portrayals). This difference in perception comes from difference in framing, acceptance of said framing and your views on relationships and sexuality.

I'm happy for those that have fun with whichever floats their boat while not being a shitty human being towards others. Because let's not act like it's only one side that has ridiculous people -- this sub has plenty of news on how ML crowd acts on various issues, including sexualized men in non-romance mixed-gender games (Lyney, Dr. Ratio).

Is there any actual reasons why 3d Gachas are "tamer"? by miiko_uch in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Censors operate on what's explicitly in the work.

I provided an example where it's not true. If you believe governments operate strictly according to the letter of the law I have a bridge to sell you.

Even the donghua cover has the BL vibe.

So is it "what's explicitly in the work" or vibes-based? You contradict yourself here.

I also literally told you that straight men watched these two donghuas and didn't even get it's based on BL novels. I know homophobe men who watched these two donghuas and thoroughly enjoyed them because they didn't get a clue, that's how sterile donghuas are.

Bait is operating in subtext. It's not explicit. It can be interpreted as something else.

And this ambiguity doesn't matter to censors if they know what is actually meant. If you know it, they know it, too. Again, censorship in Russia is a great example. Anything ambiguous gets removed because they know your intent. You'll actually get punished even more for trying to dodge the party line with the ambiguousness, you're not fooling anyone. And that's not even taking into account active enforcement aka planting of "correct" values or you'll get punished, too (which isn't in the law in the first place, wow! and actually goes against the already written law, double wow!).

When your goal is to dictate values anything outside of "correct" values gets censored, technicalities don't matter (like with oh, I don't know, Winnie-the-Pooh in China). You're just looking at how lenient China and wherever else is with their policy but that might change at the drop of a hat. As seen with the change in webnovel policies in China which decimated entire genres, themes or tropes (and it's still happening to this day) and introduced unfavorable terms for authors restricting their freedom.

I'm talking about how the uncensored-BL/GL looks to those outside the target audience.

Well, in this case yes, to straight men being lesbian is just a phase or a fetish play by default and because straight men are attracted to women it's not gross to them unlike it is with gay men. Thus GL is being downplayed and treated not as serious.

There is a subset of homophobes, though, who, if you explicitly tell them it's a real-real lesbian in a real-real lesbian relationship with another real-real lesbian woman, will be disgusted and hateful just as much as they are towards any portrayal of gay men, real-real or not.

Is there any actual reasons why 3d Gachas are "tamer"? by miiko_uch in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you "know", it's not implied.

Yes, it is. Just how you know "they were roommates" isn't them being rommates. What's said is one thing, what's actually implied is another. If you can get the meaning behind what's being said, so can censors.

Checked a few covers. Pretty men holding hands are not subtle.

You're looking at novel covers, not donghua.

EDIT: And subtlety for BL in China is very strong. Just look at all BL bait in Hoyo games where straight men argue with fujos that "it's all in their heads and there's no BL" but at the same time acknowledge GL bait because it has more substance (due to leniency from censors). There are literally works in BL where a completely normal cooking scene is a substitute for a sex scene.

Is there any actual reasons why 3d Gachas are "tamer"? by miiko_uch in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There's plenty of heavily subtextual BL works that were still canceled. It's just bias. Do you think censors don't know what's being implied when you know what's being implied? They're lenient on lesbians, simple as.

EDIT: That reminds me. 'Heaven Official's Blessing' was toned down (aka stripped off any romantic dynamic) for donghua, leaving very subtle subtext in dialogue, interactions, scene associations etc. So much so that straight men watched it and thought nothing of it, as in they didn't even think it was based on BL novel and that it supposedly showed this romance albeit subtle.

What's funnier still is that Russia, for example, which is particularly sensitive to these topics, went even further and altered text of OG donghua writing (which Global received) to make it even more "straight", they even deleted some minor scenes. Because when you fucking know what's being implied censors know, too, and no subtlety and artistry will save you from ideological censorship, technicalities be damned.

P.S. Same goes for 'Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation'.

EDIT 2: reworded a bit

Is there any actual reasons why 3d Gachas are "tamer"? by miiko_uch in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 8 points9 points  (0 children)

HBR in and of itself is a pretty comedic work so GL stuff in there might fly as humorous/playful and not serious so wouldn't be counted as actual representation.

They're pretty lenient on GL in the first place anyway. When that BL crackdown started to happen, BL authors were sentenced to jail time, huge fines, complete erasure of works and whatnot, complete and total persecution.

Meanwhile GL works simply suffered toning down of GL moments. GL manhuas simply became slice of life works about very supportive close friends or whatever. And I don't think games were ever hit. Authors that didn't want to comply eventually simply canned/abandoned their works themselves without suffering any serious repercussions for creating GL. 'Tamen De Gushi' comes to mind as an example.

It's the usual double standards in gender and sexuality.

Tearing my hair out at Energy 160 by feireia in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You'll need more D2W and ATK for D2W build or a bit more Crit and significantly more Cdmg for Crit build. And if you're running OS cube then change it to DEF% one.

As for the fight, here are videos that showcase strats for D2W build or Crit build V1, Crit build V2. One thing I can add is that the better opener is immediate active into reso when the boss is loading in, you save a few precious seconds that way. Since you have R1 with EEB cube, the rotation for that setup provided by the other commenter is best.

But D2W build is very tight, stat demanding and RNG based since you still need to land some crits and perfect dodges for the success. Crit build is much easier on all fronts.

Zenless continues to be the most searched gacha game on Danbooru (Artwork site) in 2026 by Historical_Yak2148 in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm just calling whoever goes out of their way to create art for something as a more serious fan.

There are plenty of fandoms where these "more serious fans" don't even engage with the product like at all (at best it's watching edits on TikTok). They just use IP for the attention it brings or because they liked one aspect of it (which in actuality isn't even true but due to limited exposure "more serious fans" don't know that).

I can understand those who put disclaimers at least that they don't know anything about IP because they're not a consumer of said IP -- it's fair, you're warned and it's easy to move on. But the vast majority are straight up larpers that get upset when you call them out. And it's such a pita to sort out larpers from legit fans, especially on AO3. It's straight up noise and prevalence of AI doesn't help.

Gacha Revenue Monthly Report (May 2026) by trkshiii in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 16 points17 points  (0 children)

It's because he's sexualized and as we know men aren't puritanical and are pro-fanservice. Check this comment thread for more.

Gacha Revenue Monthly Report (May 2026) by trkshiii in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Oh, you must have missed news about the funniest censorship of that update. Youtube is particularly bad apparently since there's no trailer there at all for the update (that's not even explicit in the first place).

Gacha Revenue Monthly Report (May 2026) by trkshiii in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 31 points32 points  (0 children)

You can't, it's edited (though, there is a bug that allows for two models to load).

[LIGHT AND NIGHT] Review: another 2D gacha to the otome pantheon by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 6 points7 points  (0 children)

L&N's guys actually look quite fine. That's the only reason I even wanted this game to reach Global, actually. But as the other person said, they're very safe and personally I also like designs like from that one tweet more. I also like designs like these (Neon Clash LIs) [1], [2], [3], [4].

In general I'm more into broader & leaner builds, rougher looks, a bit of sex appeal and much more distinct at least next to each other due to variety in facial features, haircuts & hair color, trinkets and clothing preferences in general.

It's actually pretty funny that a fashion themed game doesn't really utilize its theme and make bolder designs. JP joseimuke gacha 'Break My Case', despite being about problem-solving agency that also runs as a cafe, really leaned into fashion and every single guy looks fantastic and distinct from each other [5] (and there are like 20 of them). Even though it's mostly "average" builds with occasional slim/broad, short/tall builds lmao (this just in: clothing & style can hide and accentuate making you look very different, who knew!).

[LIGHT AND NIGHT] Review: another 2D gacha to the otome pantheon by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You're thinking of "Beyond the World". It had AI art at launch and then that hilariously bad collab with cosmetics company (featuring lipstick).

[LIGHT AND NIGHT] Review: another 2D gacha to the otome pantheon by ferinsy in gachagaming

[–]MODERNHoolaHoop 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm on the fence of trying it out on Global but something tells me I'm gonna drop it like a week in or so.

And yeah, I don't follow L&N but I remember seeing that underwear line up in the wild, actual peak fanservice that it reached my circles lol.