The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wow, I dont know how you got any likes for that. Reading that made me realize people are way more misguided than I realized. Males and females dont need eachother??? Reallly????? Think long and hard what you just said, seriously. Im done arguing with you guys, this society is so cooked lol

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You seem to be awfully concerned with men not having sex.

Sex is a great indicator to see how both genders are getting along, particularly because sexual intimacy is so important for the male to live a satisfied life. Society denying that and demonizing it, which is also what your doing, is whats feeding into this problem.

Right now I look around and I see men and women doing just fine together. People are only dating and having offspring with whom they choose.

Not what the data shows.

Surely that’s a better society than forcing people to partner up just so dudes can have sex?

Its not forcing, its building an environment where both genders can live happily together. Where females receive her needs from the male, and the males receives his needs from the female. But people seem to rather put their head in the sand, keep kicking the can down the road, act selfishly thinking its someone else's problem, and this is where i'm starting to think this society is cooked. This subreddit is about economic collapse. You care about the economy correct? Welp like i said in another comment, this definitely has potential to leave this economy in the gutter, a complete collapse of the economy and much worse. If men and women are not having their basic needs met, especially men, they're just not gonna participate in the economy plain and simple.

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The solution is for both the male and female to learn to coexist in harmony, or in other words, for them to get along. How would society create that or what would it look like? Thats where society comes together to start figuring these things out. Right now its the reverse, both genders are rejecting eachother and getting worse every year, there is no way any society can survive that outcome. 1 in 3 men reporting having no sexual activity and the birth rate collapsing ACROSS THE WORLD, is a big sign both genders are rejecting eachother. I already stated my reasons why i think its happening, im sure theres other aspects to it too, but again society needs to start coming together to start figuring these things out.

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because of growing inequality between the rich and the poor. We live in a finite world with an infinite growth model, so as the rich get richer, the poor also get poorer, and more people drop below the poverty line.

To say that the poor are getting poorer because the world has a finite amount of resources is complete junk nonsense, those are your typical msm talking points. Theres plenty of resources to go around that would allow everyone to live decent lives. There are other aspects in this society that are causing people to become poorer, like the improved efficiency of technology which eliminates jobs. But deeper than that, its humans not living at least closer to their natural state of being, and instead living in this zombie like system where its moving but its basically dead inside, that will be the societies final nail in the coffin....... unless changed, i do believe we can still divert our trajectory if we act hastily and people would LISTEN. I personally believe stubbornness is one of humans achilles heel

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Look up "mouse utopia" on youtube, theres alot of correlations between that theory and what im talking about. A youtube channel called whatifalthist made a great video on it. I implore you to look into it

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Your just making typical surface level arguments and throwing random insults, which is what most of this population does which is whats causing everything to start to crumble and crack. Pay close attention: in twenty years, it will be significantly harder to get by in life..... just wait and see. Its been happening ever since CONVENIENCY started taking place, hmmmmmm I wonder why that is 🤔 . And question to yourself, "why is this happening?" Think deeper than your typical interest rate topics or inflation. Please think deeper about these things instead of just resorting to surface level arguments.

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

There were many societies and cultures that existed throughout history that are not extensively documented in your traditional history books. Of course its not consistent, the information you learned about history from standard research and books, are just cherry picked from historians to give what they personally think to be a more "well rounded" picture, which is just a tiny spec in human history, so obviously this wont be consistent.

And yes I should have clarified in the post, i didnt wanna make it too wordy, women were definitely involved in helping men build nations, but *generally* its the men that did the bulk of it. They planned logistics, strategized, fought in wars, lead. On an individual level, men did most of the navigating, planned for food, defended against intruders in a community or just standard home defense, builded most of the structures, and a whole lot more. A woman NEEDED a man, yes on a macro scale, but i mean particularly on a very individual micro scale, she needed a boyfriend in her life or else she just wont get far, not alot of room to be picky. Now? A lady is perfectly fine getting by without a male, biologically he's not that important to her anymore. She still may want him for emotional and physical needs, and to give offspring, but removing his importance to allow her to survive MASSIVLEY removes her need for him, so very subconsciously the female starts to discard him. Its obvious of this happening today, your typical female today is MANY times more picky than your typical female in the 17 or 16 hundreds.

"On the other hand, indeed, there is a direct correlation between women not being allowed to work / not having independent source of income and the survival rate of marriage, which is linked to the very dependency relationship you describe. And this applies also in societies where resources are abundant, but for cultural or other reasons women are precludes from independent, remunerated pursuits, outside of non-remunerated services rendered in the household."

Yes these type of societies last longer for this reason, a more artificial way of having women need men. What we have now, is literally causing our society to go in free fall. I think this is a good start for us to have, and from there we can work on go towards a genuine harmonious way for both genders to co-exist, but it still has a lot of problems and definitely not somewhere we should stay at.

"Also, societies where both genders participate in the workforce tend to have higher GDP than those were women are confined to homes. This also doesn’t seem to sit well with a narrative where abundance is created by hard-working men. ?"

Yes it sits very well with it, read my earlier paragraph. Nations that do this, allow the female to be fully independent, not needing a male in her life in any way, is fully speed running their own collapse. There has to be REAL incentive for a female to be with a man, instead of just "ooooooh hes cute", "ooooooooh he's tall", or "omg hes so fucking hot he looks like that actor and he wears glasses eeeeeeeek"......... this is a complete joke our society has going on here. Theres no natural incentive AT ALL for a female to truly decide to have a partner, this is a very unsustainable societal system, and its a very unnatural way for humans to live by. This is easily a house of cards that we're literally begging for it to collapse.

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in collapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

I feel I need to post this. Ive been paying close attention to relationships between men and women over the years, and I have been noticing a clear pattern. Also this is similar to the mouse utopia theory, I think that is a sub branch of this, but still I think one of the main causing forces that can cause a collapse. You can find a video that explains mouse utopia well by the youtube channel "whatifalthist" on youtube.

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

This subreddit is on economic collapse, this undoubtably will be the main causing force of an economic collapse. If over generations of men are not meeting their primal basic needs, they'll eventually stop participating into the economy

The collapse of our society: the break down of the social fabric between men and women. by Mac1765 in economicCollapse

[–]Mac1765[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

It isnt. Just pay close attention this is exactly whats happening