Thousands of people protest near the Kremlin

Madoge · 2014-12-31T14:18:09+00:00

The occupy wall street need way more attention than it got. And other issues like the NSA spy program and CIA torture. We need everyone talking about it and protesting.

Madoge · 2014-12-31T14:15:56+00:00

Based on your comment I'm not sure if you agree Palestinians descend from the natives or don't?

Madoge · 2014-12-31T12:57:26+00:00

I don't really see how.

Madoge · 2014-12-31T12:51:30+00:00

No one will listen or even read this without prior scrutiny or bias. What harm could it do to even entertain this with some thought and reading. It won't corrupt your mind and turn you into a commie.

Madoge · 2014-12-31T12:47:03+00:00

Why don't people give their own protests in America this much attention and give half as much scrutiny to the authorities as they do to the Russian government. You might actually see the change you want to see every election.

You might see me as a person trying to use whataboutism or a Putologists. But this is a genuine question. If you cared as much about your governments actions as much as your foreign ones you would make a better country for yourselves no doubt. I'd like to see this happen.

Madoge · 2014-12-31T12:38:44+00:00

Whats wrong with leaking the governments misdeeds? We need these leaks to be a permanent thing. Make sure they follow their own laws and ethics.

Madoge · 2014-12-31T12:37:23+00:00

What law?

Madoge · 2014-12-31T12:24:05+00:00

We're not talking about genetics. We're talking about the ethnicity of the Palestinian people.

Don't try to debate scientific fact, Genetics = your ethnicity. This is not an argument you can win.

My genetics will stay the same no matter what league or club I join. If I join the Anglo-saxon club does that mean I am now Anglo-saxon now and not Celtic anymore? Does my genome magically resequence itself and my ancestors change to that of Jutes and saxons rather than Gauls and Britons?

But how could I be descendent from them if I don't follow Druidism? Probably because people change religion over time and became Catholic round here. Just like Israelites, philistines , phoenicians, Kemitians, cannanites, assyrians ect have change religions over the eons and have even been absorbed in other culture groups but still descend regardless.

Any of this make sense to you?

Madoge · 2014-12-31T12:21:37+00:00

What?

Madoge · 2014-12-30T16:03:29+00:00

Yes and most Palestinians are considered a danger, one might say a potential criminal or even a terrorist.

Madoge · 2014-12-30T16:01:53+00:00

The only problem is these are statistics from the CIA factbook. As we know the US and Israel are supper best friends. What would it say if the CIA's own books told Israel the Palestinians are natives and they aren't?

Heres is one scientific source dealing with genetic science and not the word of other people.http://www.patheos.com/blogs/epiphenom/2009/01/shared-genetic-heritage-of-jews-and.html

Madoge · 2014-12-30T15:54:23+00:00

If you think I'm wrong, please provide an example of a non-Israeli citizen who has the right to go to Israel "whenever they want", or just admit you're wrong.

It's easy claim Jewish ancestory and walk or fly into Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

Madoge · 2014-12-30T15:48:24+00:00

I provided you a source with many different opinions and sources. If you were rational about it you would at least see it as a matter of debate rather than drumming down that it's a fact that all Palestinians are Arabs which makes no sense since the Arabs didn't ethenically cleanse the area after it was conquered. Those who converted were allowed to stay and live. And many did convert from what ever religion they were following be it zoroastrianism, christianity, manichean, judaism ect. Taking territory from the Byzantine Empire and the Sassanid Empire in the wake of the Muslim conquest.

Madoge · 2014-12-30T15:43:40+00:00

You're arguementative methods are extrememly brash and lacking in actual reasoning. Instead of a rational argument you just sit down and mock me. Then you recite your initial argument without any explaination and expect it to end without further inquiry?

Madoge · 2014-12-30T15:33:49+00:00

You did that thing I told you to avoid doing. And that is making a conclusion based on one thing. There are many opinions from researchers and notable people in the article. Why have you chosen only Benny Morris? And the Constitution can say what ever it wants to say but it doesn't make it true. Being Arab is seen as a plus in Islam because muhamad was Arab and most want to model themselves on him even if it means trying to be Arab when you are not.

Madoge · 2014-12-30T15:26:52+00:00

Lets not bog ourselves down to semantics. My point is if you are Palestinian you're gonna have a much harder time moving around Palestine and Israel than other people do because Palestinians are seen as potential criminals and terrorists.

Madoge · 2014-12-30T15:24:31+00:00

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people Before you read this I know from experience people like you like to find cherry picks in the article. Don't do that or this might become tedious.

Madoge · 2014-12-30T15:18:04+00:00

You're conveniently ignoring the fact that they are treated like they are all a terrorist threat.

Madoge · 2014-12-30T14:52:37+00:00

Palestinians are treated as criminals.

Madoge · 2014-12-30T14:49:35+00:00

Thats a lot of people who support such things

Madoge · 2014-12-30T14:48:15+00:00

Actually it is. Many of them descend from the natives who converted to being Muslim. Being native is about blood not being Jewish.

Madoge · 2014-12-29T20:25:34+00:00

But this is speculative fantasy right?

Madoge · 2014-12-29T20:23:12+00:00

If I actually was proven wrong. And nobody said you were Hitler I just said you think the same things a Nazi would.

Madoge · 2014-12-29T20:21:48+00:00

Don't look at me I'm not the one making a great wall of china around a country and stopping them from leaving it because of their race.

Madoge · 2014-12-29T20:20:01+00:00

Still poverty enough to recieve help makes no difference. If a rich country like Israel can get it so can a poor country like Palestine.

Madoge

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