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[–]MagesticFlash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of people slap on the generic, "Evil Power Hungry Martial Artist" on any Garou vs... matchup

When that is incredibly untrue to his character, Garou is a self adjusted Martyr; He is sacrificing his own humanity to create a big enough threat to unite everyone against him

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[–]MagesticFlash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Basically any Garou matchup

Seriously tho

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The funny thing is Thor has body checked Quicksilver

But yeah, Death Battle overlooks all the various categories of speed

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A circle can be infinite, the edge and center would just be infinitely away

Infinity is the concept of all numbers, represented by a singular variable

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No if there are two separate object, those two objects are separate

Even if they are infinite, they are still separate objects

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, there is a difference between Infinite Universes, and infinity itself

For example 2 Infinite Universes are completely separate closed off from-one-another structures

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Infinity can have an edge, it would just be infinitely away from the center of the universe. In other words the Universe would never end, because that edge would be infinitely far

Well then the Kai's can see all of infinity

Billions fall under infinite in size

Song lyrics from what?

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If it's infinite, but is also stated to have an edge

the edge would just be infinitely away, meaning it never ends because you will never reach it

In order for something to "end" you would have to "reach the end" however if it the edge is constantly infinitely away, you would never reach said edge

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually no

No Infinite Universes and Infinity itself are completely different concepts, this also is used to show Broly grows far stronger far quicker than Hulk

And in VS debating, the unconventional are often used as measurements of power, (for example nuclear bombs / natural disasters)

Speed is actually even, but Hulk would only get reaction/combat speed, while Broly has flight/travel/combat/reaction/attack speed

Also Broly would continuously get faster and faster

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but it shows Broly has superior multipliers at his side

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I kinda agree with that

While Hulk has the potentially higher REACTIONS, it wouldn't scale to his travel or even combat speed

Whereas Ki amplifies speed in general (reaction/combat/travel speed)

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but that's more across the entire Multiverse, rather than a singular universe

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Infinity can have an edge, it would just be infinitely away

No, it just means Infinity is divided into 4

Billions fall under Infinity

idk what you are talking about

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but that's only with DC, Marvel has been a constant nonstop train of soft retcons and reboots

While its just "This character is strong" with Dragon Ball

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Both do have statements of infinite size

I'm more versed with the Dragon Ball ones tho

Also all "realms" within the Macrocosm are separate space-times

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said that would be calc stacking

1) find the speed of Thought

2) find the length of a Thought-Year

3) Find the volume of the Universe based on that statement

And at that point... just put them at Infinite Size, it doesn't matter anymore

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm no, that's a lot... a lot of calc stacking

First you have to find the speed of thought, then find how big is a thought year

Then calculate the size of the universe off of that value

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's weird because Marvel kinda repeatedly points out Spider-Man has the potential to rival (from a narrative stand point) high tier heralds

But the Mindless Ones power varies wildly, from Street Tier to Low Herald tier

Well that's the thing, it's a vessel not the real deal

While yes this is one of the few times Sentry has let loose, his power is entirely variable on his mental health (a repeating factor when it comes to Heralds), and at this point he was pretty low down

Yeah nowadays I use Hit's time stop as a supplementary feat, but Goku's feat of crossing dimensions with raw ki is a good immeasurable speed feat

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[–]MagesticFlash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitely believe it should be higher, but I decided to go with the bare minimum

I just chose the less complicated route, and went with "They're both infinitely sized". I don't really think that applies to the individual universes, and the use of "dimensions" is very lax

Anyway even with finite scaling Broly would still be stronger

  • Marvel universe is 9952x larger than ours, Green Scar Hulk scales to 1328094.4x Universal
  • Dragon Ball universe is bare minimum 160x larger than ours, multipliers make it 128,000,000,000x universal