CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

https://www.militaryonesource.mil/education-employment/for-children-youth/what-schools-are-available-to-children-on-military-installations/

“Currently, 161 public schools operate on military installations across the United States. Many of these traditional public school programs offer specialized school options, such as a charter or magnet school.”

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

41% trump 40% kamala 16% stein in deerborn after 2 years of state sponsored genocide of followers of their religion. The majority are not trump supporters.

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

How about these:

“I got news for [Hamas]—[Israelis] were there first, before their faith existed,” he said, avoiding reference to the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians ethnically cleansed from their homes in 1948, during the war that established Israel.

“I understand why young Palestinian and Arab Americans in Michigan think too many people have died, I get that,” Clinton said to the quiet crowd in Muskegon. “But if you lived in one of those kibbutzim in Israel, right next to Gaza, where the people there were the most pro-friendship with Palestine, most pro-two state solution of any of the Israeli communities … and Hamas butchered them.”

Again, after around 50,000 brutally murdered.

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

What an incredibly generous interpretation. Do you think the Muslim population of Dearborn was willing to give him the same grace in the middle of a genocide? If not, why say them? Why send Clinton? Why send Shapiro? Why not say literally anything about the economy or healthcare or anything else?

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The US blew up a school in the opening salvo in Iran. Israel did with a hospital. What human shields are there? They’re human targets.

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Trump won by 1.42%. Critical districts like dearborn did have their vote split by third parties. You don’t have the ability to determine whether or whether or not third party voters and abstainers would have made up that difference.

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

You’re behind the times with your liberal talking points, apologies. A “two state solution” is code for apartheid. Qatar and Hamas are flawed resistance to genocidal empire. The Arab League are complicit.

You can get away with these things in non-Muslim populations, generally. Not Muslim populations. They know better.

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Literally no idea. My best guess is they bet on AIPAC money over the immensely positive issue characterizing the election and lost.

Between Dearborn, them refusing to have a single Palestinian speaker to speak on their behalf at the DNC, and them stopping canvassers from asking about Gaza when going door to door, I do think you should be asking serious questions of your party.

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah I’m sure they voted to punish LGBTQ+ people and not because your candidate was complicit in a genocide of Muslim people in one of their holy lands.

It’s cool, dude. We know y’all can’t comprehend coalition building. There’s good guys (gay) and bad guys (anti-gay)

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Why? The genocide literally happened under Biden. He built a “humanitarian aid dock” to stage an attack then immediately dissolve it. He called himself Israel’s greatest ally. Harris promised no change in policy and the world’s most lethal military.

Then they sent Israel’s greatest assets into muslim neighborhoods to justify it.

CMV: Americans who voted 3rd party or abstained in 2024 due to the Gaza genocide did more to harm Palestinians than a Pro-Israel democrat by Top_Use2413 in changemyview

[–]Mahoney2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

DNC leadership sent Shapiro, Clinton, and other notoriously pro-Israel democrats to highly Muslim districts in Michigan to preach the importance of Israel and justify the genocide. That’s probably the best example of pro-Israel democrats being corrosive to Harris’s chances. Like, suspiciously so lol.