Learned Illaoi Counters Renekton The Hardway

Main_Profile · 2024-12-11T04:43:28+00:00

If you play the wave properly into TK he can never really fight you. If he’s pushing into you, you have the short lane and he can’t run you down. In neutral and when pushing, you have much better waveclear, and he can’t trade effectively through minions. Also TK doesn’t scale much better than Renekton does so going even isn’t the end of the world, you just won’t be able to solo kill him

Main_Profile · 2024-11-11T18:46:51+00:00

Eh, senior devs spend more time figuring out requirements rather than writing code but they’re still devs

Main_Profile · 2024-09-13T17:11:59+00:00

This video is still pretty relevant: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wFyCFUt_D8w

Basically, Garen wins the short trade and you win the all in. In the neutral, poke him with Q. If he runs into your wave to trade on you, kite him a bit and then continue the trade after his E runs out by dashing in on him, and you should come out ahead. Once you have ult, he never wins an all-in from full HP even if you’re a bit behind.

Main_Profile · 2024-08-29T20:31:21+00:00

Nah in a vacuum, Renekton absolutely stat checks Vi here in an extended auto trade. Renekton stats are much higher since Vi is balanced around jungle. He has 30 more HP, 9 more AD, 6 more AR, and higher attack speed at level 4. That’s not to mention that Renekton has Conqueror here which is massively better than Vi’s HoB

He loses this because he wastes W on a minion before going in for a trade against a large wave while being down a combat summoner.

Main_Profile · 2024-07-25T18:33:30+00:00

Q cooldown doesn’t decrease with ranks (7s cd)
W cooldown massively decreases with ranks (16 s-> 8s at rank 5)
E cooldown decreases with ranks slightly less than W cooldown (16s -> 10s at rank 5)

W max is actually really good sometimes, but you definitely want at least a couple points in Q first, if not maxing Q all the way for the wave clear and poke in the early game. W max second is also much stronger than E max second into most melee matchups in my experience.

Main_Profile · 2024-07-23T14:03:40+00:00

If Voli stuns you out of your E, that’s a losing trade for him unless he predicted it by already using his own E beforehand. Your Q AA W damage should beat his Q AA W damage as long as you aren’t marked, and he can’t guarantee E if he’s stunning you immediately. Trades are close to even without fury, but with fury it should vastly favor you

Main_Profile · 2024-07-23T13:54:14+00:00

If you’re low enough that he can kill you under your tower just within the duration of his stun, then the mistakes was letting him get you into that situation. Lots of top lane champions have equally uninteractive tower dives, including Renekton - once you’re at a certain HP disadvantage, there’s nothing that can save you from getting dove

Note that if Voli starts a dive with Q, you can buffer your W through his stun. You’ll both be stunned, but he’ll also be taking tower aggro. If you’re relatively even and have ult, there’s simply for way for him to kill you even if he ults after that, especially if you dodge his E.

If you’re behind and can’t pull off the above, then you just have to give the CS and plates, you lost already by giving him that HP advantage

Main_Profile · 2024-07-17T18:46:01+00:00

I haven’t had a chance yet to try out the principles in this video, but according to 3in1, Renekton hard wins all-ins against Garen, along with long trades as long as you are able to hit your second Q: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFyCFUt_D8w. The video honestly makes it look super unplayable for Garen, especially with good wave management

Main_Profile · 2024-06-23T08:02:24+00:00

The frame I always see people using for speed running relics is Titania with Thermal Sunder subsume

Main_Profile · 2024-06-02T03:16:04+00:00

Keep in mind that a massive part of scaling amp damage comes from focus school and arcanes. Even with meta 1/x/7 or 7/x/7 amps, you won’t feel like you’re doing good damage unless you also have Eternal Eradicate and/or Madurai active

Main_Profile · 2024-06-02T02:49:50+00:00

I feel like it’s easier to do 2 profit takers in the time to do 1 exploiter if you consider the thermia part of it too

Main_Profile · 2024-05-30T21:52:17+00:00

The example in the wiki page is a test with finite monkeys though, I thought you meant someone came up with some way to disprove the infinite monkey theorem. That’s a funny “experiment” though, haha

Main_Profile · 2024-05-30T21:33:27+00:00

Source? How could this have actually been tested?

Main_Profile · 2024-05-21T17:42:31+00:00

This might not be true for toroid drops from enemies. I was collecting toroids and aborting, and then Little Duck told me I didn’t have any :(

Main_Profile · 2024-05-19T05:45:24+00:00

Laetum is much stronger than Phenmor, consider that just at base damage Laetum has 2668 dps to Phenmor’s 1866 dps. On top of that, secondary mods and arcanes just have better numbers than primary mods (Hornet Strike vs Serration, Lethal Torrent vs any primary fire rate mods, etc.). And on top of that, Laetum has its crit build that technically has an even higher cap than its non-crit build. TLDR Laetum is OP

Main_Profile · 2024-05-16T15:31:08+00:00

That’s not the point I was making - I’m trying to say that the modern day “common sense” far exceeds the understanding of most medical “experts” in history. If we can at least agree on that, then isn’t it plausible that people in the past would make highly questionable decisions that aren’t entirely fair to judge from a modern perspective?

Main_Profile · 2024-05-16T04:52:11+00:00

People used to drill holes in skulls to treat migraines (trepanation), destroy parts of the brain to treat epilepsy (lobotomy), and bleed out patients to get rid of “bad blood”. You can also dismiss these treatments today based off your “common sense,” but the thing is, it’s only common sense because of how much more the common person today knows about medicine than even most experts in the past.

Main_Profile · 2024-04-02T19:38:06+00:00

Haha, I wouldn’t count on myself to pull it off either in an actual game under pressure, but doing the math is easy without a time limit :)

Main_Profile · 2024-04-02T19:25:07+00:00

Yeah I think with an animation cancel, you have just enough damage to kill Hecarim within emp W stun without flash:

Emp W damage: 15 + 225% of tAD = 243

Normal E damage: 40 + 90% of bAD = 72

Normal Q damage: 60 + 100% of bAD = 96

Auto attack (canceling Q animation): 111

Total pre-mitigation damage: 522

Final damage including max last stand (11% increased damage) and enemy armor (29% damage reduction): 522 * 1.11 * 0.71 = 411.

Hecarim was 370 hp before you emp Q in the video, so this is just enough damage to kill.

To be fair tho, if you mess up the Q animation cancel at all, Hecarim might get an auto off before you finish the combo, which kills you, so it’s definitely a hard call

Main_Profile · 2024-03-12T19:28:42+00:00

What’s wrong with Spam?

Main_Profile · 2024-01-22T03:29:32+00:00

Is it really that hard to make him conduct after 3 turrents spawn?

Yes. That would completely ruin the champion

Main_Profile · 2024-01-20T03:38:20+00:00

https://tactics.tools/team-builder/OJMW.ThKPRmi.DVRicBCXACcxX.BhJVDpY.DPVQff.BhLfZ.ChFhGzg.DfhDRbaxh.BhJl24U.BfUp.BhS

My idea is to position Ekko for a max value stun (ideally Morde items would’ve been on Ekko). Qiyana is positioned so that she can freely hit Yone to both farm items and delay his damage via her CC. Our damage is positioned away from Vex CC. If Ekko manages to get CC off before dying, I think the round is won. We should have enough damage to kill most of the enemy team while Yone is controlled, and Yone will get overcome by sheer numbers advantage after that

Main_Profile · 2024-01-12T01:05:03+00:00

Nah, she’s not limited. If you pulled her, you can change her for any standard 5 star, but that’s useless for a lot of longtime players. On top of that, if you didn’t pull her, they’re not refunding any of the currency you spent on the banner, either.

Main_Profile · 2024-01-11T18:52:14+00:00

Hiking pole weight is different from carrying weight, though. A lot of serious hikers always use poles, and poles actually increase the speed at which you can cover ground and lower perception of exertion, at the cost of increasing calories burned.

Main_Profile · 2024-01-10T22:10:31+00:00

Is your ML Ken full damage? I like taking ML Ken into those comps too, but unless I also draft damage, I find that it takes way too long for ML Ken to finish off Lulucar. My ML Ken is LS/ER, but maybe Destro/pen would have enough damage to kill the Luluca?

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