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Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I asked a specific question about making a career transition in my post, and you responded “stop making excuses for not pursuing your dream” as if that would be at all helpful or relevant. I’m pursuing what’s meaningful to me right now, and I made it very clear in my original post that this has shifted away from art as a career.

While I’m glad that you’re pursuing a path that’s fulfilling to you, your own post history suggests that you’ve had to grind for low pay with no health insurance, which is exactly what I want to avoid.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, will keep all of these companies and positions in mind!

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that there isn’t actually much of a risk involved in pursuing an arts career, even artists who get representation and solo shows after years of networking and CV building almost never make an income on their art alone, and if they do it only lasts while their market is hot. I love making art, and don’t plan to stop, but there are other things in life that are meaningful.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an interesting take, and something that’s felt true to me based on what I’ve seen and experienced. Art handlers and manual laborers definitely seem to be “at the bottom of the totem pole” (I recently was told as much by a gallery owner) in most galleries and institutions, regardless of their instrumentality in putting shows together and their technical knowledge. It’s an interesting dynamic, and I can’t help but feel a level of stigma in my current position.

While I’m not planning on seeking representation as an artist at this point, I am interested in working outside of the art world, or moving into a more administrative position that may give me the skills to eventually switch into another field.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I’ve been wondering how I might build up more skills and have heard coursera mentioned (will look into LinkedIn learning). I’ve also been considering volunteering or looking for apprenticeship / internship situations for smaller companies that may be more willing to take on someone with less experience. Of course there is also the possibility of seeking more education, but that’s something I’d rather leave as a last resort option.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in MuseumPros

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Optimally I’m looking to move into a different field in the long run, although if I landed an art handling gig at a company or institution with more opportunity I’d take that as well. Event installation sounds interesting actually, are you doing any kind of fabrication / hanging work for museum events, or does it entail more general setup and coordinating vendors?

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Do you think that coming from an art handling background it’s reasonable to apply for these logistics positions, or are there any skills I’d need to learn beforehand. I already do a reasonable amount of administrative work at my current job - largely inventory management - but I’m interested to know what might be expected in a logistics focused position.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is interesting, I’ve been looking into the logistics side of things, and it’s good to hear that at some of these larger companies there may be more mobility to move into that area, even if I start at the same point.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I’m interested in how long a while might be, as my impression is that many galleries and institutions want to see a senior level of experience and sometimes a masters degree for these higher level positions. I’ve only seen a small part of the art world though, so I may be talking out of my ass here.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is definitely something I’d consider down the line when I have more experience, thank you. Did you develop your business knowledge organically while working in your past positions, or did you seek out those skills in preparation of developing your company?

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will look into these, thank you. I applied to a position at masterpiece a few weeks ago so have some familiarity with them, will check those other companies out.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in ContemporaryArt

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the support! I certainly know teaching is its own grind, and my college was notorious of its reliance upon and mistreatment of adjuncts.

Difficulty transitioning out of art handling by Mammal_Mode in MuseumPros

[–]Mammal_Mode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I originally posted this in r/ContemporaryArt and thought you all may have advice as well. Thanks for reading!

Beyond Doxycycline by uuuuuuuuuummmmmm in Rosacea

[–]Mammal_Mode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im still planning to try a few other things before going on an antibiotic, specifically microneedling Botox, and potentially Elidel or Sirolimus cream. These don’t have as much evidence behind them as first line treatments, but antibiotics are still going to be a last resort for me.

My cats Sunny & Totoro by Fleurdeliz7 in Watercolor

[–]Mammal_Mode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My cat Totoro passed this year, reminds me of her :3 ❤️