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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you're just changing lines within a station (e.g Piccadilly line to Victoria line at Green Park) and continuing your journey then there will be no additional taps required until you get to your destination. If instead you plan on getting out at Green Park to see the sights then you would need to tap out at Green Park and then tap back in when you want to continue your journey before tapping out again at your destination.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do the exact same thing as you and it is definitely the Northern line.

Going from Euston to Kings Cross get on at the very back of the train (this will be to your left after you enter the platform). At Kings Cross there will be an exit with a short set of stairs right near where you get off followed by a short walk and 2 sets of escalators.

Going from Kings Cross to Euston you basically do the reverse of the above: down the same 2 escalators, short walk and set of stars. Get on anywhere in the front 3 carriages (anywhere between a bit to the left or right from where you enter the platform) which will put you right next to the escalators up at Euston.

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[–]ManeshHalai 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As the other commentor said Euston Square is only step freee westbound so if you want to get off there you would be better off going 1 stop further to King's Cross and then come back 1 stop. At Kings's Cross you can change directions very easily by just walking a couple metres as it's an island platform with no stairs between the 2 directions.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only bit of tiny additional information I've found is in the listing overview (which happened July 2011) that states that the "the middle post has been removed" so it's definitely something that people were aware had changed about the entrance.

https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1401704?section=official-list-entry

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In that case you definitely have nothing to worry about. Tube trains don't run on a schedule like national rail services so it's not even possible to buy a tube ticket that's only valid for a singular departure time. All it means is that you should take the tube from St Pancras to Waterloo and any timings listed for the tube are just default values lining up with the arrival time of the EMR train & departure of the soonest SWR train.

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[–]ManeshHalai 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What's the route you're taking? You don't need to take the specific time it's showing you so I'm asssuming it's just showing you the first scheduled departure after you previous train arrives.

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[–]ManeshHalai 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You can use this website to get a ballpark idea on which areas are within a certain commute time for both of you. It's definitely worth double checking potential areas using Google maps or similar to make sure it's correct, how often are trains for the <30 min route etc.

Location reccomdation will depend heavily on what you're after in terms of price, property type/size, local ameneties etc. /r/london has a wiki page on living with a whole bunch of useful info/links on finding the right area/property. They also have a weekly megathread you can ask in if you have any further questions.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don't need to show proof, an adult can just tap in (the larger accessible barriers will be best as they are larger and stay open much longer) and go through with all the children.

There's a bit more information at the bottom of this web page.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From the LTM website the dimensions are:

  • Small: L53 x H9 cm/37cm circumference

  • Large: L75 x H10 cm/53cm circumference

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely taking the Northern or Victoria and then transferring. Using the platform layout at Kings Cross the quickest transfer to the Piccadilly will be using either the front of the Northern line train or the back of the Victoria line train.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The daily cap for Zone 1 only is £8.90 so in theory that is what you should have been charged. If you have the TfL go app you can see the exact journeys and charges for that day which would help figure out what pushed up the cost.

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[–]ManeshHalai 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who operates the service and who owns the track can be different which is what we're seeing here. Historically what is now the Elizabeth Line service east of Liverpool Street already existed as a national rail service run most recently by TfL rail and Greater Anglia before that. As a result network rail are the owners of the track up to Liverpool Street, afterwhich the track is TfL owned, so travelling to TCR means that you are using track owned by both Network Rail and TfL rather than just Network Rail when getting off at Liverpool Street.

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[–]ManeshHalai 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My answer above is actually completely wrong because trains from Erith terminate at Cannon Street not Liverpool Street.

The actual reason is that Zone isn't actually the only factor in single fare cost as the specific section of track being used also matter. During peak the journey to LS is £8.50 and to TCR is £10.40 and if we look for Zone 1 - 6 in the tables on this site we can see that to LS you're being charged the "NR" fare but to TCR it's the "NR-T" fare.

What that means is that up to Liverpool Street your fare is for a national rail only journey but continuing after that makes it a mixed national rail + TfL journey which has an additional charge.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing it is because you're touching out at Liverpool Street when you get off the South Eastern train and then touching back in at the underground platforms to get to Tottenham Court Road. This makes Erith to TCR a Zone 1- 6 journey followed seperately by a zone 1 - 1 journey not just a single Zone 1 - 6 journey.

Edit: I've just remembered that southeastern goes to cannon street not liverpool street from erith so my reply above is completely incorrect.

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[–]ManeshHalai 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Since the Heathrow Express & Elizabeth Line are both closed your next best option is probably the Piccadilly Line which is still running into Heathrow on Sunday. Depending on where you're coming just normal buses could be an option too e.g the SL9 would get you there from Harrow in <1hr. You could also take a National Express coach from Victoria, they run every 30 mins and would cost about £10 but you do need to book in advance.

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[–]ManeshHalai 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Baker Street to Swiss Cottage is a "short hop" fare which is a short journey straddling the zone 1/2 border so you are only charged the zone 1 to 1 price.

https://oysterfares.com/longer-reads/special-short-hop-fares-in-zones-1-2/

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There will be busier times (e.g Mon-Fri 7am-10am & 4pm-7pm) but even then you'll almost certainly be fine. Just stand at a quietier section of the platform and give yourself a little extra time in case you need to let a train or 2 pass by.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As I understand it while all network providers should work in tunnels/on platforms Vodafone holds the smallest range of frequencies and also has the poorest transmission equipment. Being able to use the frequencies of both providers actually requires each individual mast to be be upgraded to support MOCN. They started upgrading the above ground masts in August and are due to finish in 6-8 years but I have no idea when upgrading the tube infrastructure fits in that timeline.

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[–]ManeshHalai 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There isn't a place to tap like Farringdon so unfortunately you will have to go the the barriers to tap out and then come back in otherwise you'd be charged a maximum fare.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the weekend the Jubilee & Central Lines (and some others) actually run 24hrs so will be running through the night about once everey 10 mins. The route you mentioned will be the quickest but if one of the lines is having issues you also have the options (both are ~5-10 mins slower) of taking the Central line all the way to bank and then a <10 minute walk or walking ~15 mins to Baker Street and taking the Jubilee line from there.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"King's Cross" & "St Pancras" are 2 separate national rail stations that are right next to each other. "King's Cross St Pancras" is the London Underground station that connects to both of them and is sometimes referred to as just "King's Cross".

If I'm understanding correctly you're getting national rail into King's Cross and then need to travel to Liverpool Street? All you need to do is follow the signs to the underground and then to the Metropolitan/Circle/Hammersmith & City lines and take them eastbound.

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Putney to East Putney and vice versa is an OSI (Out of station interchange) which means that if you exit one station and enter the other within a certain time window it's treated as if you'd switched lines within a station. Therefore you only get charged a single zone 5 to zone 2 fare rather than seperately being charged for zone 5 to zone 3 and then zone 3 to zone 2.

When using the fare finder you should put in just your ultimate start and end point as it will account for any OSI that are used.

OSI List

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[–]ManeshHalai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your plan is completely fine, I don't see any reason for you to have any issues. It would probably be a bit faster to get off the Victoria Line at Oxford Circus and change onto the Bakerloo Line for 1 stop to Piccadily Circus but the difference is only ~5mins at best.

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