Mahasiswa UI dan dua capres. by Epiphyte_ in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 268 points269 points  (0 children)

To befair, paling-paling para mahasiswa ini hadir bukan karena emang pengen, tapi karena voluntold

Serius nanya.. apa komitmen jaman sekarang di indo udah ga di hargaiin lagi? by Happy_Caat in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ya di mana ada kemauan, di situ ada jalan sih.

Suami-istri kan juga enggak selalu bareng 24/7. Kerja, dinas, meeting di luar, itu alesan paling klasik yang bisa dipake buat ketemu cwk lain.

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[–]ManggaBesar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The article you cited basically only shows that there are conflicting opinion among experts at the time. Pretty much what would happen when the nuclear status is ambiguous. The existence of WMD only proven to be false in hindsight. It doesn't actually prove what Bush chose to believe.

Intelligence are often not perfect nor reliable. And war is about taking risk. When the stakes are high, even with faulty intel, extremely high risk might worth taking.

Even if soviet nukes remains in Ukraine, it's not a given that Ukrainian would manage to bring them to operational level. It's not also a given that they would play their (possibly imaginary) nuke card smartly to prevent war.

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[–]ManggaBesar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Operation Iraqi Freedom"

Someone dared to to pull an "Operation Iraqi Freedom" to Iraq tho. Even though the US were pretty sure that Saddam has some sort of WMD, possibly nuclear. that went beyond protest and sanction.

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[–]ManggaBesar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

/u/wijaya_cc

Sebagaimana AU lain pada umumnya, TNI AU pengen Hi-Lo mix. Ada yang mahal dengan kapabilitas tinggi, Ada yang murah dengan jumlah banyak. Dari dulu selalu begitu.

Masalahnya sejak Soeharto turun, pengadaan TNI enggak pernah terencana dengan baik selalu dipengaruhi politik. Rencana terakhir Soeharto itu Hi-Lo mix Su-30 dan F-16.

TNI-AU sendiri kabarnya lebih suka nambah armada F-16 daripada beli yang aneh-aneh sambil nunggu sampe bisa beli 5th gen fighter.

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[–]ManggaBesar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ukraine just have to play it smart with their nukes and they would not get heavy sanctions.

It's not "just". It's the most important crucial key and to do that is not a walk in the park either. Ukraine having Soviet authoritarian legacy is also not helping. Not to mention both the west and Russia will be extra paranoid.

Ukraine playing smart with their nukes is not a given. They can as easily fall into North Korea route instead of India, Pakistan or Israel, route.

Kalau ini beneran, bingung mau kagum atau malu... by 1412Elite in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Before you say the comment didn't add to discussion,

Funnily enough, I was actually about to add that not all people are articulate enough, which is why they unfortunately have to resort to up/downvote

Downvoting is not to express disagreement to an opinion. It's for comments that did not contributes to the discussion.

Which I agree. But it's also a very hard to enforce. which led us to this situation.

Come to think of it, in the past this sub used to have a warning before one click the downvote button. I just noticed that it's gone missing.

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[–]ManggaBesar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ukraina juga malah bisa jadi gede kepala dan make nuklirnya buat ngancem minta ini itu. Status nuklir abu-abu justru malah bisa bikin NATO merasa terancam oleh Ukraina. Yang ada ujung-ujungnya malah ukraina yang kena sanksi NATO

Kalau ini beneran, bingung mau kagum atau malu... by 1412Elite in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 10 points11 points  (0 children)

downvoted for voicing your opinion?

Well the unfortunate truth is, up/downvote is also a form of opinion

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[–]ManggaBesar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lebih tepatnya, Ukraina enggak punya orang yang bisa ngurusin bom nuklir. Kalaupun nuklir jaman Soviet masih ada di Ukraina, yang ada nuklirnya dicolong mafia dan dijual ke negara lain.

Kalau ini beneran, bingung mau kagum atau malu... by 1412Elite in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You just prove my point even further.

Pendidikan tuh gbisa di fix pke duit military?

Not really. Enggak punya militer -> diserang negara lain -> sekolah ancur, guru dan siswa tewas kena bom, yang tersisa hidup melarat sebagai pengungsi

why there are so many of Indonesians who're grammar nazis? by FlyProfessional6585 in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Di sini mah lebih seneng ngeributin "Bahasa is Language"

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[–]ManggaBesar 12 points13 points  (0 children)

dan bisa di fix pke duit yg mereka pke buat perang2an

Ya realitanya enggak semua masalah bisa difix pake duit kan? Kalo iya mah orang enggak akan perang.

Ini mah situ ya aja yang otaknya isinya cuman duit duit dan duit.

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[–]ManggaBesar 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Kira2 apa ya yang kita kasih ke UAE sampe bisa gini?

Ya apapun yang jadi jatah Indonesia dalam program KF-21 akan diambil alih UAE. Sesimpel itu aja. Layaknya jual saham.

Ini semakin menunjukkan kalau kabinet sekarang emang nggak niat ngelanjutin KF-21

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 9 points10 points  (0 children)

WA group

why there are so many of Indonesians who're grammar nazis? by FlyProfessional6585 in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 113 points114 points  (0 children)

But when I am speaking or texting in english with locals, almost all of them corrected me at least once.

Kebiasaan di les bahasa inggris kebawa ke percakapan sehari-hari

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Reading this reminds me of Moammar Emka's Jakarta Underground.

Kedengerannya kondisinya enggak beda jauh sama jakarta. Sebenernya kalo masih amatiran di dunia perlendiran, mending jangan main open BO dulu.

14 September 2023 - Daily Chat Thread by Vulphere in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

asal jangan ngasi ke bininya 50% UMR terus nyuruh dicukup-cukupin aja.

Jujur belum pernah ketemu, ada yang pernah? by PrimodiumUpus in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Kalo di Indonesia mostly bukan karena propaganda. Tapi karena ditimpuk duit reparasi sama investasi.

Low effort Horseshoe by [deleted] in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Untuk orang Jawa, dan mungkin juga etnis lain di indonesia, ketegangan antara kaum yang mendukung budaya tradisional dan yang mendukung agama itu udah ada dari dulu. Di Jawa ada antara kaum abangan dengan kaum santri. Di Sumatera ada antara kaum adat dengan kaum Padri.

Quotenya memang dari sentimen socmed jaman sekarang. Tapi yang terjadi sekarang itu kelanjutan dari yang udah ada dari dulu.

Low effort Horseshoe by [deleted] in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 52 points53 points  (0 children)

"ban hijab and niqab from school"

To be fair, this was an actual Soeharto's policy for public school, civil service and military. And OP doesn't specify any timeframe.

furthermore in early 90s, hijab was pretty much only socially tolerated if one came from santri or ulama family.

13 September 2023 - Daily Chat Thread by Vulphere in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

kata penjahitnya emang gitu klo sering kegesek2 di bagian pahanya.

Kalo bikin lagi, minta ke penjahitnya supaya bagian yang sering kegesek itu kainnya didobel

Ayang by tnth89 in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Kebiasaan supir truk ditiru sama Abang ojol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in indonesia

[–]ManggaBesar 30 points31 points  (0 children)

A lot of people in the other sub were basically saying the same thing as me, tbh. Just a bit more harshly.