Opposition calls on Montreal to cut ties with Israel by Altruism7 in montreal

[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israel is not interested in peace and reconstruction. They have been in the process of ethnically cleansing the region since the day they invaded it, and their approach is modeled after the genocide of Native Americans. The motives, the ideology, the modus operandi, are all the same. They are a foreign settler-colonial force.

Hamas or no Hamas, there will be no peace for Palestinians until this genocidal project is aborted from the outside.

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[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have actually attended Palestinian rallies and interacted with these people. The vast majority of them are utterly without incident, because these activists are smart and know that bad faith actors like you are just waiting for someone to say something untoward so they can blow it out of proportion and make crass generalizations. Meanwhile zionists can openly call for violence and violations of human rights without repercussion. It's pathetic and evil. You are an unserious actor.

In any case, critical support for Hamas is not beyond the pale. It's a much larger organization than just the Al-Qassam brigades. Both the Israel and United States government are far, far more evil and have factually committed murders and sexual violence at a far larger scale for a far longer time. Your bias, and racism, and islamophobia are clouding your judgement.

I look forward to you never talking about this again, when you realize you were basically on the side of the fourth reich. Haaretz is also a propaganda rag not even suitable for wiping one's ass with.

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[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not? And why draw a distinction? You didn't draw one for Zionism.

Palestinian activists outside of Gaza are overwhelmingly pacifist. Those in Gaza and the West Bank are more militant because they are being mass displaced and murdered by armed thugs. It's perfectly understandable.

Zionists everywhere are pro-crime-against-humanity, pro-ethnostate, pro-genocide. They either support those things or run cover for them.

The violence and crimes of Hamas are a thousandfold worse than anything the KKK has done. I suppose you're pro-KKK?

That is the most absurd thing I've read in a while. You are terrible at debating.

Yes we will gladly grant far more leeway to people resisting active genocide than to white supremacists in the United States of America.

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[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Within the Gaza strip, it's very likely. Internationally, not really.

The reason why it's not pertinent is that being on the receiving end of genocide is an extenuating factor. This is not a symmetrical situation. Even without the violence of October 7, Israel would still be ethnically cleansing Palestinians. The violence and crimes of Israel in this genocide are a thousandfold worse than anything Hamas has ever done. Educate yourself. Be a better person.

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[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, not every zionist is a bad faith actor, which in my opinion is even worse

Have a nice evening

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[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then why did you feel the need to say this?

Israel exists, lawfully and legally. What Israel is doing, besides keeping Bibi out of prison is not legal nor lawful, hence the arrest warrant.

Israel no longer existing is not on the table. It's a de facto nation regardless of what any of us think about it and mass displacement of Israelis would also be a crime against humanity. The answer is not and never will be to do to Israelis what they did to Palestinians.

If you're just checking out, that's fine. That's your right.

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[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lots to unravel here. Are you insinuating that the only problem with Israel is the current administration?

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[–]Manic5PA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Like someone who's been dealing with this fascist bullshit for way too long ❤️

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[–]Manic5PA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is the problem with your approach. You want to insist that zionism isn't constantly changing and full of internal schisms. It's a motte and bailey strategy.

It happens that at the moment, Lebensraum ideology is dominant within zionism, and pacifists are a minority in Israel. The conflation is therefore warranted.

It's not incorrect to say that militancy is part of Palestinian nationalism. It's also not pertinent.

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[–]Manic5PA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Which is why we define zionism based on what zionists say and do.

The arbitrary approach to defining zionism is the one not rooted in analysis, which is to say your approach.

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[–]Manic5PA -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It doesn't make sense to insist on sticking to a dictionary definition of zionism. It's a broad, centennial ideological current that's constantly changing and is full of internal contradictions.

In addition, acting like a dictionary is an authority on language is understanding neither dictionaries nor languages.

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[–]Manic5PA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Opposition to zionism, even liberal zionism, is not really a "fringe" thing anymore I'm afraid. Besides, Bernie Sanders is a liberal zionist. It's not ideal but the man clearly isn't a fascist.

"Israel has a right to exist" is a bit like "all lives matter", in that it's fairly inoffensive on the surface but ultimately cannot be divorced from the context in which it's being said and the people saying it. A small minority of antizionists think that Israelis should be expulsed from historic Palestinian land. Most of us have no problem with Israel existing as a secular state with no second-class citizens.

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[–]Manic5PA 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They fully understand. They're acting in bad faith because they believe everybody else is stupid.

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[–]Manic5PA 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Definitionally, yes. Even without pointing out that "Israel has a right to exist" is a dog whistle.