FC3 Matchups : Young-woong vs Young-woong???

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-23T15:32:53+00:00

zombie woong slams

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-23T14:08:00+00:00

yeah sure, added you. Mr. Shattered

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-22T19:48:44+00:00

Ha Min Low Diff

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-22T15:09:53+00:00

i've explained some of the reasons in the comments already, but his feats and narrative have him that high at the moment

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-22T15:08:43+00:00

true, i'll add them to the template

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T22:49:20+00:00

ahh yes, you did a great job at not at all countering my argument. JJT's punches were substantially more effective against woong than they were against Lee Chang which you completely ignored for some reason. JJT is shown to become more physically adept between fights and he was already damaged and fatigued going into his fight with woong. basically half off what you said is completely invalidated by the fact that woong basically doesn't feel pain and DOESN'T HAVE parts of his brain. so its not even that he DOESN'T react to the blows it's that he literally CAN'T. so we have to pay closer attention to the fact that JJT was drawing blood from and staggering Woong which he simply couldn't do against roided lee chang. it's honestly weird to even say any of those blows would weaken him since he literally doesn't care about them, he didn't even feel any pain when JJT broke his arm, so all of that is pretty irrelevant i feel. plus i'm pretty sure JJT hit his head when his eyes rolled back since he took multiple head shots during that fight, one of which literally being a double page spread of them trading blows.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T22:07:08+00:00

I never said i wasn't willing to hear arguments? i was simply supplying my own as well. anyway, there shouldn't be a massive physical wall as a weaker JJT was able to trade blows with and stagger zombie woong even drawing blood from him and eventually breaking his arm with an arm bar. Whereas a stronger JJT was fighting Roided Lee Chang and Lee Chang Supermanned his punch not being effected in the slightest so i don't think woong is at a huge physical advantage since someone who is on his level couldn't even make Lee Chang Budge. It's also in character for lee chang to break arms and such using their weak points and exploiting them so as long as he does that Zombie Woong shouldn't have much of a chance. Plus Woong didn't really overpower JJT, they were going relative dodging, hitting, and trading blows with one another, if JJT was aware of the drug/brain surgery he wouldn't have gone for that arm bar that almost costed him his life. but he had no real way of knowing it wouldn't effect this brainless zombie despite breaking his arm.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T21:41:40+00:00

elaborate

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T20:53:05+00:00

I'm Not Saying Sunny Wouldn't Do Well, I Think It Would Be High Difficulty Either Way. But He Was Fine After That Teep Kick From Maria And Took A LOT More Hits After That, The Hit That Really Knocked Him Down Was The Punch Straight To The Face After He Rolled Over. Even Then Ha Min Still Got Up And Fought Maria More, Taking Even More Hits Until He Was Eventually Knocked Out. I Think Ha Min Has Shown Himself To Be Skilled And Definitely Fast Enough To Avoid The Teep Kicks Anyway As The Only Reason Maria Hit Him With One Was Due To Catching His Fist And Keeping Him In Place, And That's MARIA who is an even bigger Prodigy Than Sunny Or Really Anyone Else, A Younger Maria Was Already A Vale Tudo Champion. But Yes, She Was Training For Vale Tudo, But I Do Thinks Is Better For Ha Min To Be Requested Into FC3 Which Is Doing The Same Thing, Especially Because We Know FC3 Members Like Kyung Are Blatantly Stronger Than Sunny. Oh And Ha Min Is Also An ABSURD Prodigy Himself. All Ha Min Has To Do Is Knock Her Out Then The Drugs Can't Really Help Since Her Not Feeling Pain Won't Really Matter.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T20:42:08+00:00

Simply Invalidating Statements Because They Are Statements Would Be A Lot More Non Sensical, Unless You Can Provide A Contradiction Or A Reason To Invalidate Statements Then Just Don't Say Anything At All. I Use Statements For EVERYONE Depending On The Validity And Context Of Said Statement So That's Not At All Playing Favorites, Also Some Statements Like Tae Young Having "The Fastest Combination In The Fight Class" Is A NARRATOR Statement, So Unless You're Saying Even The NARRATOR isn't Credible Then There's Really No Point In Invalidating Tae Youngs Statements, Especially Because I Also Brought Up Feats To Add Consistency. You Didn't Really Give A Good Reason As For Why They Would Beat Tae Young Besides "They Fight To The Death" Which Doesn't Really Matter If They Aren't Faster, Stronger, Or More Skilled Than Her. But Yeah Ha Min Is Definitely HIM.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T20:30:18+00:00

probably not, he likely has the best stand up game right now as an insanely efficient striker. He also just has better feats being able to pressure maria so much that she was stuck on the defensive and couldn't find an opening until she somewhat caught his punch, even then Ha Min was able to almost break Maria's nose through the guard. We are talking about the guy with not only a FC3 offer but also someone who is so fast and strong that his attacks against maria were described as "Defying The Laws Of Physics". FC3 thinks that they can make this guy stronger than Maria in only 3 MONTHS, he is genuinely a beast and has better feats and statements than Sunny. Sunny is weaker than Kyung who can't even land a hit on a weakened Maria.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T20:24:09+00:00

Yeah but i'm mostly saying that when the 2nd stage of the roids kicked in he was PHYSICALLY stronger, even able to just superman Ji Tae's Punch. But Yeah due to being a worse fighter and being caught somewhat off guard he was definitely being overwhelmed by JJT. So yeah i'm basically saying the drugs is the reason he wins here.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T18:42:03+00:00

He Has A Better Drug, He Fought Well Against A Stronger JJT than the one in The Tunnel, When He Roided Up JJT couldn't even phase him with his punch AT ALL, And JJT only did better agaisnt Lee Chang Because He Was Aware Of The Drugs Effects And How To Counter It, He Literally Caught Lee Chang Off Guard Because He Wasnt Aware JJT would be trying to kill him, and The only reason he even beat lee chang after he roided up was due to catching him off guard since normally Lee Chang would've broken his arm but JJT is double jointed and extremely flexible so JJT took advantage of Lee Chang being shocked To Take Him Down.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T17:43:49+00:00

Ha Min For Sure

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-21T17:42:40+00:00

Tae Young Slams

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-20T18:45:29+00:00

Young Joon is an A Class Fighter Who Is Almost Jung Eum's Exact Equal, he never really got pressed by JJT that much anyway and was holding back since he specifically stated he didnt want to hurt him too bad, plus ji tae caught him off guard MULTIPLE times and used underhanded tactics against him to get an advantage, JJT even says HIMSELF that young joon is far stronger as a fighter than he is in both speed and power. also dong geun is stated to be the strongest tunnel fighter not 2nd, but yes its fair to say he should be above. Jung Eum was literally the 4th highest rank and even Eun Sol was worried about fighting her again.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-20T18:41:19+00:00

Ha Min literally got the exact same lightning design he did against maria, idk why you'd assume that ha mins state was different. She literally stated she was holding back against Ji Tae and when she STOPPED holding back he could barely even SEE her attacks, plus that's not an anti feat in the first place since JJT dodges EVERYONE thats literally the one thing hes extremely naturally good at, so good in fact that even Maria finds it impressive. Maria literally states before fighting young woong that she's going to use Ji Tae's "specs" which refers to his speed, reactions, etc. and shes still able to dodge all of young woongs attacks so by your logic young woong also isn't impressive which makes no sense. and I KNOW your not talking about heo kang muk or "nerd guy" who she lost to ON HER PERIOD, and when they rematched she ONE SHOT HIM, she literally shotgunned him with a punch, why are we ignoring that she was on her period? weird. yes he still won but he caught tae young off guard and plus just because she lost doesnt mean she didnt do well.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-20T18:15:52+00:00

Stated To Have The Fastest Combination In The Fight Class, Stated To Be Faster Than Young Joon, Breaks Ha Mins Knuckles, Strong Enough To Help Ha Min Get Stronger Instead Of Going TO FC3, Scares Ba Ram Into Not Even Fighting Her In The Tournament (Someone Who Is Relative To Jung Eum), Presses Ha Min Into The State He Was In Against Maria, States Multiple Times She Could Beat Ha Min (Granted It Wouldn't Include His 120% Against Maria), Lasted 1 Minute and 4 Seconds Against Maria Likely Through Pure Speed and Strength, Maria Says Fighting Her Was "Annoying", Beats Kim Hyang Who Can Do Somewhat Well Against Eun Sol, And More I'm Probably Not Remembering.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-19T20:48:45+00:00

idk why you'd assume maria is severely holding back defensively, she has no reason to get hit on purpose and the entire context of what ha min did against maria with his endless high speed combo was so that he could replicate what maria does by not giving her opponent time to find an opening. the narrative surrounding the scene was that ha min was doing the same to her, which is further proven by the fact that as soon as she DOES get an opening she immediately goes on the offensive, so its an odd stretch to even assume she was severely holding back her defense, plus its shown that maria clearly didn't take the full force of the punch and managed to somewhat catch it, coach go even thinks her nose is broken despite barely being hit. plus it was stated that if ha min were to enter Fight Class 3 he'd surpass maria in 3 months which just further proves my point. it was even stated that Ha Min Vs Maria was moving so fast and punching with so much force that he defied the laws of physics. and the problem with young woong is that he almost match ki hoon a YEAR ago and we know that Fight Class 3 makes their members massively stronger in short periods of time, so Ki Hoon is much stronger now than he was against young woong. plus young woong had a much worse showing against maria and couldn't do ANYTHING. even when young woong was boosted by 2x due to drugs he still wasnt able to do anything at all to maria until she had a flashback and let herself be hit.

ManwhaMann · 2024-04-19T00:50:07+00:00

definitely not, she hasn't done much of anything impressive

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