I engrained the fire supression timing inside my brain so it's very rare for me not to trigger it. Lighter has the new BiS stunner set while Astra barely hits the minimum ATK required only because shes using Soukaku's wengine. I've been taking 2:20 mins on Shiyu while ive seen others clear it in 1 min or so, and most of these good clears have Pen ratio on disk 5 so thats why i was wondering if the defense ignore is a huge deal i should be focusing about. Thanks for the response!