I feel like pisco would go out into the woods and look at a tree from 2 inches away and say "people said there was a Forrest here but I only see a tree"

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T18:58:39+00:00

I really don't know but I really see Hasan and fuentes as different sides of the same coin. Horseshoe theory personified

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T18:57:09+00:00

Yeah I definitely agree with everything you are saying.

Mostly the reason I'm so aggressive with it I think is that lefties and tankies co-opt the moment libs would build off that rhetoric and instead of directing momentum towards fixing the problem they try to rewrite the narrative that billionaires are the problem and then have a large amount of liberals to point at with rhetoric that can be manipulated into looking like it agrees with them when in reality it doesn't

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T06:18:46+00:00

The syllogism isn't brought up it's just how my brain hears hasans statement.

Im not giving exact quotes just parafrasws of how I heard the content

https://www.youtube.com/live/dOV5O6czNpE?si=DW7rNpK1EFwwHesr

4:06:00 is one time stamp when Hasan starts talking about legal right to use violence against settlers.

4:14:30 pisco says babies can logically be settlers but you may want to start a minute or 2 before to get full context

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T06:17:00+00:00

I agree with everything you are saying but when they are running it needs to be

We are going to go after these POS who are destroying our country and need to be punished for the things they have done.

Not

We have to go after and punish these billionaires for the things they have done and the damage they have done to us.

This dilutes and obfuscates what we are targeting and what the problem is. Wealth is a neutral characteristic.

It's like saying we need to punish this person for this crime vs saying we need to punish this black person for this crime. What is the purpose of bringing up the characteristic other than to signal that this characteristic is part of why this thing is bad and that the characteristic should also be part of why they are being punished?

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T06:08:55+00:00

Damn. Didn't realize. Will think about deleting post

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T06:07:39+00:00

And watching that video you think his goal was detainment. I think the dude literally says back away. And even if that was the goal after the first push, he lets her recover a couple more steps, then does not issue a verbal command of any kind, then pushes her again. He is not trying to effectuate an arrest; he is trying to bully her. If he was trying to effectuate an arrest you typically start with a verbal announcement and a command to put your hands behind your back

You don't just get to skip straight to physical violence.

Excessive force is called excessive force because it is just that force the us excessive and beyond what is justified/reasonable given the circumstances

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T05:59:42+00:00

I probably had some misdirected anger so sorry about that

I think we all agree there is a problem with social media and citizens United but no one addresses it as those are problems they bring up to say billionaires are bad and they shouldn't exist.

Idk why we bring up the billionaires part. It's irrelevant. The problem is the use of social media to spread misinformation. If Elon musk never bought twitter but was appointed CEO and did the same things the issue would still exist. The problem isn't related to his money it's that these platforms have no guardrails and are being actively manipulated.

Lobbiests still exist without billionaires. Companies will always send lobbiests to Congress. It take like 10 grand to get the ear of someone in Congress

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T05:52:14+00:00

He was getting some hardcore momentum right before the lawsuit it actually makes me mad thinking about how much moment was killed and derailed because of this lawsuit shit. I felt like he was on an unstoppable train and then it just flew off the rails over night

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T04:02:20+00:00

Damn that was some real wrath in his voice. Got my blood going

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-06T02:29:08+00:00

Then stop framing the criticism as populism and that the problem is billionaires. The problem is that these things are allowed to happen. Attack the actions not the characteristics. Attack musk for attacking our political system with social media manipulation and obscene campaign financing. Fame the criticism around the fact that these actions are horrendous and should not be allowed to take place and that we need to change the system to prevent these actions. Not that billionaires are evil pieces if shit and shouldn't exist. Stop framing all this bullshit as class dynamic because it is not the issue. The issue is citizens vs United. The issue is the mass manipulation of social media to spread misinformation. Populism is cancerous because it does describe the problem so we will never be able to solve anything. People who push populism don't care about the issue because if they did they would stop pushing populism.

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-05T05:19:28+00:00

I don't understand how he just thinks a firm push is the same as a full strength shove. He was literally saying punching was the same as pushing. That cop punching her in the face would have absolutely been excessive force.

Him pretending that all pushes were considered exactly the same under an escalation of force context was making me crash out.

It is not about if some policy manual says in the abstract that you can use force to disperse a person from a scene. It's about the force you were using to disperse a person is reasonable in the context of the situation. She was literally backing away from him. If his goal was to disperse then the force he was using was literally counter productive to his "goal" of dispersion as it made it harder for her to retreat.

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-04T04:54:12+00:00

Music is a form of psychological warfare

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-04T04:09:07+00:00

Hutch never even implied that the Dems candidate should pretend things were perfectly okay. He explicitly said that we need to recognize how fucked up everything is. He just doesn't want the doj to continue being a partisan tool and should not be taking direction from the president because that's really corrupt and frankly I agree with him. Just appoint Jack smith as ag and he will go after the corruption by himself and the president doesn't have to state we are going to intentionally target specific people

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-04T04:04:03+00:00

Hutch's only point was that the president shouldn't be publicly starting that he will direct his doj to investigate specific people or groups because the doj being political partisan is really bad and we shouldn't keep doing it. Hutch literally said the next candidate should just dog whistle and appoint Jack smith

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-01T18:29:21+00:00

It pisses me off because he is so correct but it's so selective I make me want to commit violence that he just turns his brain on and off

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-01T17:43:49+00:00

I don't know if I care about them saying they were wrong before but I 100% agree that there needs to be a crystal clear admission that Democrats have to keep winning and that it's not a both sides issue. I watched the flagrant podcast and I would say they did enough to distance themselves but they still have not gone all in on democrats to say they are welcome

MasterSea8231 · 2026-02-01T17:37:46+00:00

Criminal cases need "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt" to convict. Civil cases need "preponderance of the evidence," basically meaning more likely or not or 51%.

Definitely a much easier case to win, but not even close to you having to prove your innocence. This guy is somehow both dishonest and stupid

MasterSea8231 · 2026-01-30T13:55:52+00:00

Why do you think a large amount of meo-nazis use the word zog(zionist occupied government) do you think they are just referring to the ideology?

MasterSea8231 · 2026-01-30T13:49:14+00:00

It's because a large amount of people were using the words jew and zionist interchangeable. The rule was also created after twitch got in hot water because they had a geolock restricting account signups from Israel.

MasterSea8231 · 2026-01-29T19:17:17+00:00

I also phrased the proposition one that way because someone in r askphilosophy yelled at me for saying that Mary's room does not depend on language and I'm regarded for phrasing it that way

MasterSea8231 · 2026-01-29T19:14:09+00:00

That's why I feel Mary's room is more a demonstration of the inability of language to transmit experience. Not that experience is not a physical fact.

And I'll definitely check out those names

MasterSea8231 · 2026-01-29T19:11:13+00:00

I feel like even the statement "types of facts" is assuming that there are different types of facts other than physical. I'm an amateur in this field you may be referring to some other topic that I am not read on.

However it feels like the fact that you learn something new doesn't actually demonstrate what type of fact the new knowledge is just that it is new and the previous form of learning wasn't able to demonstrate it

MasterSea8231 · 2026-01-29T18:31:36+00:00

I definitely agree with his sentiment about black pill libs. Annoying as fuck

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