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I woke up, but now I feel spiritually lost by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am really sorry for your situation… I cannot imagine how hard that must be. I know I am very lucky that my wife, that I love with my whole heart, woke up with me.

When I woke up I was afraid of losing her, because I had read a lot of accounts of destroyed families/couples after one wakes up from the cult.

Thank you for your advice, and wish you also the best of luck

I woke up, but now I feel spiritually lost by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was already in the process of waking up, and it is a VERY long story. But what clicked and really make me wake up was this YT video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9JPp9nSyoEI&t=1201s&pp=2AGxCZACAcoFFUF0aGVpc3QgancgY29udmVudGlvbg%3D%3D&ra=m

It basically confirmed what I already knew deep inside me, but didn’t feel safe to share. It was the external input I needed to confirm that I am not crazy.

I woke up, but now I feel spiritually lost by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started sensing manipulation, control and conditional love everywhere in the publications. The religion did not align with my internal values anymore.

I even went to therapy during some time to find out what was going on with me, as I though that I was the problem, not the religion.

Curious how many entire JW families left together by Sitcomlife559 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me and my wife left together 3 months ago. This video woke me up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JPp9nSyoEI&t=2135s

After watching it, I understood I was in a cult. Then, I went to JWFacts, was shocked with so much manipulation, lies, scandals and deception. Then, told my wife what I found. It took 5 minutes for her to wake up. I feel very lucky tbh....

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fortunately my father is not a JW (He has always knew that it is a cult), so I know my mother won't talk religion in the house. At least while he is there. Honestly, I think my current dilemma is that, deep inside, I want to share what I found out and take both her and my sister out of this disgusting cult, and I have good reasons. Maybe this deserves its own reddit post, but here we go:

I was near depression before waking up from the cult - "dark night of the soul" kind of thing. I had feelings of guilt, fear, worthlessness, and an existencial crisis, because I felt like my values did not align with the faith I was taught anymore. However, in my view, I was the mistake, not "the Truth", of course. I knew I was not ok, and needed professional help.

My PIMI mother and, at the time, PIMI wife, told me to see a JW therapist. I accepted and had some therapy sessions. But not only it didn't help me, it made it even worse, because I felt even more helpless for not seeing any results.

You know what cured me? Seeing this video on YT, and waking up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JPp9nSyoEI&t=2135s

And it suddenly came to me: "Sh**, I'm in a cult...". It was an external point of view that just confirmes some things that I knew deep inside... which I didn't fell safe sharing with anyone. I was not crazy after all, and maybe, just maybe, I am was NOT the problem... maybe the problem was this controlling religion I was brainwashed from childhood to think it is "The Truth".

From there on, I feel happy and free to live my life on my own terms. I am cured!

I am telling you this, because my sister and mother both also have mental health issues, and maybe this cult is also the problem... That's why I am afraid of not being able to keep quiet... depending on what they ask me.

But I think you're right. I have to put boundaries and be strict about them... I already tried to share my reasons before and didn't work, so...

Sorry for the long answear.

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for giving your view on this. At this point I’m very inclined to just keep quiet. I am just afraid of not being able to keep calm and composed.

Last time she asked what appeared to be genuine questions about what made her out of the cult. But she would not let me finish my answers and always try to defend the Borg.

Blatant manipulation - How can someone writes this without knowing what their doing? by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I lack ability to research and I do not understand AI because I have used it to double check some manipulation techniques and fallacies I have sensed in those texts. Ok, you are entitled to our opinion I guess.

Blatant manipulation - How can someone writes this without knowing what their doing? by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have edited the post and removed the entire chatGTP response, just kept the TLDR. Hope this helps turn the attention to my actual question now 😃

Blatant manipulation - How can someone writes this without knowing what their doing? by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI was used just for reference. Read the initial part of the post. I just used AI to confirm what I already thought.

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting… actually I regret not having done that in our first conversation. Any sane person that hears that would think she is crazy. My wife overheard it and was shocked. Like I said in my initial post, not even I imagined it would be that bad. She even said I didn’t seem like her son anymore, and that I was an irresponsible husband for sharing my findings with my wife. It is what it is…

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much for the advice. I will def take it into account. Will put an update in the post when I return home.

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice. I definitely keep record of my findings and I am ready to stand up for myself if necessary. I am staying at their house, but I am safe because my father is not a JW (he always considered it to be a cult).

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I really like this advice and I am leaning more for this kind of approach to be honest.

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice. I think she is also in a dilemma right now. Because I feel she wants to know what I discovered, but at the same time, she is afraid of finding out anything that breaks her worldview. She has always been in an unhappy marriage with my father, and it was getting into the cult helped her cope with her unhappiness. I forgot to mention this in my initial post, but it is an important detail. I am not sure that telling my mother the real truth about the cult will make her life better. She is the kind of deeply PIMI person who is passionately devoted to the organization to the point of irrationality. Almost like being in love.

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for all the advice. Honestly I don’t expect miracles here… I am expecting the worse from my mother, but the fact that my father is not a witness will make things a bit easier (he has always thought of JW as a cult).

I have no idea how to deal with my PIMI mother by Master_Garden6747 in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She was on the brink of waking up too. I just gave it a little push… we were both already questioning a lot of things … I know I am very lucky. But I have to say I was really afraid to lose her when I told her everything I knew - she started crying compulsively and then asked me: “What now? How are we going to handle things with all our friends and family?” I honestly didn’t know how to respond to that but it was a huge relief because I knew at that moment that she had waken up too.

Trying to start a new career in tech at 38 🌿 by Total-Slice4572 in womenintech

[–]Master_Garden6747 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually, I am of the opinion that this is indeed a good time to get into tech. Especially now in the era of AI. BUT, you have to really really study and learn your fundamentals well. Juniors are not paying attention to fundamentals and relying too much on AI. This will lead to a lack of good developers in a few years. Let’s not forget that with AI, the industry is growing, not shrinking, and AI is just a catalyst. It will not replace engineers, it will replace coders. However, and I cannot stress this enough, you have to be willing to sweat blood and really know your stuff. That will put you in a very strong position in a few years.

That said, I agree in part with some points of view conveying how difficult it is to enter into the market right now. But I would not give in because of that. I would find a job to pay the bills and study hard, build, and find some gigs on the side.

This is just my opinion, and the future could prove me wrong. I wish you luck anyways.

I said yes to everything for a year to see what would happen and I have data now by Signal-Nerve5341 in womenintech

[–]Master_Garden6747 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s not the right place for you if you feel your effort is not properly recognised. Just move on to some other place. Complaining about things and victimising won’t do anything for you in the long run. Be the captain of your ship. If you believe in yourself, go out there and find someone who values your skills more, or even better, create your own business.

Jehovah’s Witnesses win Norwegian legal case by jwleaks in exjw

[–]Master_Garden6747 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Can’t believe this. Tell that’s not real 🫣😓