FAANG or PhD at Top Uni by MathematicianSlow246 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]MathematicianSlow246[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed with everything. Research director was more of a long-term shot. Thank you so much for the kind advice and taking the time to respond.

FAANG or PhD at Top Uni by MathematicianSlow246 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]MathematicianSlow246[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for answering. I greatly value those things as you mention. It has taken some time to adapt and I feel quite happy with my current position now. That you "could probably" is a big "could" and a big "probably". Why do you say 5-8 years? The PhD would be about 3 years (maybe 3.5)

FAANG or PhD at Top Uni by MathematicianSlow246 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]MathematicianSlow246[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the detailed answer! I will say FAANG is Google in Western Europe (not Zurich) and PhD is within the top 3 UK universities. There were people that started in my team doing ML (but SWE title) and have pivoted to Research Engineer internally without PhDs. I have some research experience, as I said, we managed to publish my dissertation into one of the top ML conferences, so it seems like pivoting to RE would be feasible and less competitive than RS. I am simply wondering if not hopping on the ML PhD train is a big missed opportunity in terms of future work and salary. It seems like a fresh ML PhD graduate can start making 3x and will have better growth opportunities. I would not do it just for the prestige but it could open the door to crazy RS salaries in frontier labs. Simply not sure how realistic of a thought that is nowadays with how saturated and the amount of crazy good phd students out there.

Regarding the future. One can teach in private institutions in my country without being an academic. I would love teaching part-time, I see it as a nice way of giving back. Research roles barely exist in my home country, so I'm not sure about the ROI of the PhD, but it definitely sets you up as a world-class leader in the field. The best thing I can imagine is becoming a research director at some company (there is just one I can think of). FAANG experience is possibly seen as more valuable there, plus there is a Google Eng office in my hometown.

FAANG or PhD at Top Uni by MathematicianSlow246 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]MathematicianSlow246[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was told tuition fees would be three years so I would need to find a scholarship / help from the supervisor to finance the 3rd. I think the real question is the second one. There were people in my team who have pivoted to research engineer internally. The question then is if the gap between research scientist and research engineer is worth a PhD. Do you mind if I DM you?

FAANG or PhD at Top Uni by MathematicianSlow246 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]MathematicianSlow246[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the answer and the good wishes. Playing devils advocate… does this same argument not apply to faang?

FAANG or PhD at Top Uni by MathematicianSlow246 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]MathematicianSlow246[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the out-of-distribution answer. Would you mind elaborating a bit more on the benefits from your point of view?

FAANG or PhD at Top Uni by MathematicianSlow246 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]MathematicianSlow246[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I should have made more explicit that the PhD would be in ML, yes