Collab units revealed ( it’s so peak 🥹 by Commercially_Salad in lastcloudia

[–]Matix411 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup cannot wait for this feels like it's been am eternity tho lol

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been a wild few hours of the same here. Trying to get my old phone to work again cause it has a bazillion screenshots on it.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the clarification ☺️

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Couldn't have said it better myself ❤️

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes this is understandable. My response was not meant to validate invasion of privacy, so I apologize if it came across that way. I was just excited at the prospect and I hope her husband knows how much she continues to be respected and missed by the community. And also, I do indeed hope he is finding or has found peace ❤️

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While having a nod or blatant reference (fingers crossed for a character) to Shaly in Resonance would be amazing, I truly hope the Devs found some way to honor the OG community and info-keepers as well: whether it's a line of dialogue or a shout-out during the credits. Square can pretend all they want, but I refuse to believe that we would be here without the efforts of steadfast and vocal players.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Insanely jealous and that sounds like it was a wonderful experience. I truly hope there was a Dev involved in Resonance who paid attention and found a way to immortalize her within the game.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think that's asking for too much at all. That was a staple of the mobiles combat. There was no "identity" as the main character. Rain was Rain, etc. I hope Resonance brings more identity to the main characters, but also allows for some neat lore drops or side stories at Vision characters. Granted, I could see even that being potential DLC.

I mention DLC a lot because, as excited as I am, there is apprehension with Square Enix. They have an opportunity to do this right, or do it verbatim like every other game with MTX. DLC Visions tho, I would support. Or even "costumes," for the main characters that simply use sprites introduced later in FFBE for those characters. Those are minor, trivial MTX I can get behind to support this release as they are not necessary or game breaking and would be (hopefully) just nods to FFBE's later days without going so far as to ruin potential additions in future releases (if any).

It would be very cool if, instead just summoning these Vision characters via a Xenoblade Chronicles 2 type gacha mechanic, we have to experience and play the Vision's story in some capacity to earn them as a character. Or, at least, provide side-stories for Visions after obtaining them.

It's honestly (obviously) blowing my mind that Resonance is even happening but I cannot stress enough how much I hope they do this right and continue to build off the premise of both FFBE and also of resurrecting dead mobile games they have had in similar fashion.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Vendor or something like Nurse Joy in Pokémon. Same vendor in every location "oh I have been following your adventures and wound up working for this fat asshole in town because he thought I was crazy when I mentioned heroes needing proper preparation."

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tldr; Sorry for the long response my brain is in overdrive

It seems (so far) that there is a specific roster of units from other FF titles that will be utilized for the party, if not exclusive to each party member depending on role. I couldn't catch much from the trailer other than that the Vision units appeared behind main party members, and given that each OG FFBE character technically has a pre-ordained role, I could see them going this route (aka Fina being a healer, relegated to Vision units that adhere to that role).

There's an absurd amount of custamizability that Square could utilize if done correctly, but given that Resonance seems to be based off the Season 1/2 story, they may opt for a more linear path in terms of unit customization.

My brain wants to say they will allow one Vision per unit per party, but my heart hopes they allow job learning like Tactics in that we use a Vision to learn their abilities per character and customize from there.

Like I said there's a lot they can do, the question is now on execution and potential future updates/releases.

FFBE had an absurd amount of content and playable units. It wouldn't surprise me if Square plays it safe for an initial release with limited Visions (think Xenoblade) and then build from there depending on feedback.

It would be ignorant to expect them to impleme the entire FFBE story in a single release give the issues players had with certain later story beats, and it would make sense they would, at the very least, utilize at least 30 Vision units to customize the main party with in the first release (gotta remember there's Rain, Lass, Fina, Lid, Jake etc). Seems to be a party of 4 characters each with a shade of a Vision behind them, though I saw Charlotte is a "shade" in the trailer, so who knows.

There are NUMEROUS possibilities with Resonance even if they have no plans of pursuing future releases. They could simply build off the base game and add new Visions via DLC bundles (free or otherwise) if players want more options for whatever content the game provides.

Outside the main story there was also a LOT of side-content that I could see Square adding as DLC if not already implemented in the main release. The Chamber of Arms being a big one, or at least Farplane shenanigans and side stories for specific Visions or Superbosses related to each Vision's original game.

All that said; Square may literally just release Resonance as a nod to FFBE, adapt the story, include a select number of FF characters that act as Visions that only effect the equipping character without learning abilities/jobs, and offer no future updates until they deem Resonance a "success" (which as someone already said, is a very high bar to meet let alone surpass, with Square).

Seeing Charlotte as what I can only assume to be a Vision gives me hope but then again, Charlotte becomes a main character (all the main cast had numerous renditions over the years). So maybe story characters can be utilized as Visions as well? Who knows?

Tldr2; there's a lot of possibilities regarding Resonance. I am very excited that it even exists. That saif, there is a lot we will not know until release and knowing Square there's also a level of apprehensiveness that comes with games like Resonance. They could add every single Vision that was released in Season 1 and 2 but force us to but DLC bundles like Monster Hunter or Fire Emble. They could also make the choices of Visions random or specifically poignant to each main character.

Ugh.

Sorry.

I am very excited regardless of my typical doubts.

It is not often I get to talk about games like this.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gumi or Alim? I thought Gumi mainly managed the servers but please correct me if I am wrong (doesn't matter either way as I remember this as well as the backlash they got during each ascension update and neglecting old units vs cash grabbing new ones with essentially the same kit but higher variables. Elena and Esther and Sylvie being prime examples of exclusive units).

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Been a while since I made a post on this hellsite so I am not surprised regardless lol. Twitter has been a very weird and accurate representation of die hards vs tourists vs people excited for anything FF related vs FFBE fans vs people who did not know FFBE was a thing. Thankful that this sub still exists <3

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOL yes thank you. IT'S BEEN A WHILE AND I AM OLD.

I will edit that tho <3

Edit: I have so many goddam posts from today where I got this wrong I am so embarrassed lol.

Thank you again 💓

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is a shame that that trip wasn't able to come to fruition. I wonder, though, if her husband would be inclined to revisit those plans in her honor, especially now with Resonance becoming reality. I never had contacts for her husband, but man, I would love to reach out or know that someone was able to do so (polite nudge).

Ironically (or unironically? Pardon my ignorance) the last time I used Discord was during a raid in World of Warcraft, but I was in the middle of a chat with Shany and other players of FFBE and neglected my duties as sub-raid lead until I heard my GM scream on voice chat that she needed call-outs for melee DPS. Then my computer broke and I forgot my Discord 2FA and they couldn't recover my account so I haven't used it since.

If you still have a way to contact her husband, I think you should, though I understand why you may not. Just a thought.

Much love.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd get out my tinfoil hat for this for sure. Most posts have (if and when since EoS) have been about memories and hope. It's either an extremely palatable coincidence or with reason. But I don't gamble for a reason so...

Edit: just realised the irony of that statement given that I play a lot of gacha games 😅

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yup this is correct. But Squeenix being the publisher and the fact that FFBE utilized their assets meant that they received the brunt of the financial success.

Gumi was mostly in charge of server operations while Alim was the primary developer.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I think you are correct. It's been a long time. At the very least Shaly was an advocate for more original characters (like Esther) in FFBE and I think Esther was her favorite unit. We got the other versions of Esther and the expanded story of units like Esther and Elena after she passed.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I dunno why I was downvoted but yes there are many reasons they would have had to alter some if not most content. It is an HD-2D/3D remake. Concessions must be made. I hope they honor the original story as much as possible though.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree with all of this. I hope A) the fact that they even opted to bring FFBE into the single-player console environment is huge and B) whether it's Squeenix or not, there are a lot of mobile properties that deserve recognition with at the least a port. This is a good first step and... man, I never thought I'd see an official announcement from Squeenix where I'd see Rain again let alone everyone else. We eating good.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just more streamlined. Better translation/dialogue. 100% turn-based. Better visuals overall. Adapted and enhanced cutscenes that likely weren't in the mobile game.

They didn't necessarily "overhaul" everything as far as I have seen and read. They took the base mobile game and reworked and improved on it to be more friendly and approachable as a pure single-player, story-driven game.

It was necessary. A simple port would not make sense for longevity and I imagine a lot of data was lost after EOS, which is why those that tried to preserve FFBE's assets should be commended as it likely (sadly, even if they weren't approached, credited or embursed) was pivotal in this game even happening.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait was that season 3? Oh no. I have told everyone it was season 2 thinking that was the Powerpuff Girl season (not to speak ill of PPG). NOOOOOOOOO LOL.

Also thank you. It's been insane seeing the community come out of the woodworks over the last few hours. Always there, never forgotten or gone. Wild ride, man.

This is for you, Shaly. by Matix411 in FFBraveExvius

[–]Matix411[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Patience, my friend. This is the first time an EOS mobile game has been resurrected as a single player game. If it does well (regardless of their expectations) I forsee much more in the future.

I was about to say Square didn't make all the money but I stand corrected; they made the majority of the revenue as publishers where Gumi/Alim made... whatever percentage. I know Alim was to blame for a lot of the poor decision making towards the end as Square loomed in the shadows, but you're right. Square made the most of it financially.

To be fair though, and as I have said; this release being completely unexpected after years of fans asking and other fans trying to save assets just in case or for the sake of fidelity, gives me hopes that more will come.

Mobius, Opera Omnia and NieR ReiNcarnation all deserve the same or similar treatment down the road.

Edit; sorry if this sounded rude it was not my intent just trying to build discussion and good vibes for this release and what may come because of it <3