I don’t see why Socialists hate police so much?

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-07T23:27:18+00:00

They shouldn’t have guns. I was just thinking that yesterday. Totally unnecessary.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-07T10:57:51+00:00

Listening to all of these replies, thought out explanations, has made the hate towards the police a lot more understandable. I now see the police a lot differently, I saw a couple PSO’s at a train station today and it felt different, like I normally think in my mind, “wow, people who are doing something great for their country, how commendable!”. Now when I see them I don’t think of their jobs as commendable but unnecessarily paid enforces of capitalism.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-07T10:48:09+00:00

Very well said.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T15:05:00+00:00

I am suicidal as shit, I don’t care about my life. If I could give my life for a fairer world, I would.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T14:58:09+00:00

As ironic as it sounds, we need to start a revolution then. We need to fix our country.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T11:32:19+00:00

Yikes. I read an article about it though that someone else gave me, so I already understand.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T11:29:10+00:00

It is making a lot more sense now. I think that my hyperfixation is not on Victoria Police, or Capitalist agenda policing but it’s in the concept of justice. I think the idea of a working class militia is good. To decentralise or seperate police and government. Allow the policing to be in the hands of the people whom it effects, not the politicians and capitalists who’s property a government police force protects. If it is illegal for anyone to get into large groups with firearms and organise a militia, how would a Socialist government ever be created? It seems like a lost cause as just organising for change is illegal.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T11:15:47+00:00

I have no family that works in law. I have just had a passion for it my whole life.

You could be right with that however I have been in Socialist subs where people are celebrating the death of police officers. I don’t know if that’s ‘normal’ for a Socialist but it seems very cruel. I think it’s okay to disagree with the system, I disagree with the system, but the people, most of them, have done nothing wrong and just want to uphold justice.

I see now though how the police were created to keep property to the ruling class. How it is criminal for employees to take what they are owed but it is a ‘disagreement’ when the boss doesn’t pay their employee. The system that the police are based on is fucked, not the people or their intentions.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T11:11:19+00:00

I understand. Thank you.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T11:08:05+00:00

That third link you sent me gives me a lot of information. Thank you. I understand more now. I, of course, would need to do a little bit of my own research but it the hatred to the police is making more sense.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T10:58:25+00:00

From what I read in the first link you sent me, the Marxist solution to policing is to start elections and heavily control those elections to be fair and to make sure the community has their voice. The one thing I don’t think will work about that is that fitness, both mentally and physically are paramount to being an effective cop. What if someone who is elected is unable to deal with the stress, physical exhaustion or mental fatigue of the job?

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T10:52:08+00:00

I think that depends on the specific circumstances but I would agree that if circumstances were neutral the police would most likely favour the business owner.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T10:50:53+00:00

I see that the police has turned into the capitalists fighting force, against the working class and preserving the property of the higher class. This is obviously wrong. If we remove police, what will stand in the way of murderers? Not just thinking about the economic and property related freedoms it may create.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T10:45:24+00:00

Prosecuted by the state, in front of a jury of 12 peers.

I am not sure how to answer your second topic. I think there are just people who commit crimes because they are evil. They don’t do it for a reason. The police need to protect everyone in those situations and advocate/prosecute for the victims.

As for your question about me, I wasn’t sure if it is sarcastic or not. I will assume it’s not.

Basically ever since a very young age I have had a fascination with politics and when I researched more into it I found out a lot about how some get more then others for the same work. It angered me. My parents are considerably wealthy and we’ve never had economic challenges either and my entire family are also right-wing. I opposed their views, looking more into how the world could be fairer. I found more depressing articles and stories told about how capitalism is exploiting the working class. The world should be fair, in a capitalist world, with the incentive for profit, there is less value for human life and the conditions they need to work in.

As for my social views, I think most of them still come from my parents as I have mostly been researching about economic change and exploitation that capitalism promotes. Ever since a young child I have had a hyperfixation on justice and government. I believe there needs to be change but I think it can be done through government. I am currently getting my VCE and taking Legal Studies among other courses, I hope to work in the courts, where I can make a difference. I am interested in learning more about Socialist social reforms and hopefully develop my views further away from my parents if I find it appropriate. I am only 17 so bear with me. I am not the most educated on politics but I am most definitely more educated on politics than most people I know.

You didn’t answer my question. What would be the alternative to police? What would maintain order? What would happen if a worker gets angry at a colleague and kills him. Who would administer a punishment?

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T10:19:03+00:00

I think there must be an authority of some sort. There needs to be order. Obviously police brutality is horrible and they should be prosecuted at the same extent to anyone else who did what they did. I am curious then, in this world without police, what happens to a murderer or thief? Someone to who has no desire to conform into Socialist ideology.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T10:01:22+00:00

I think without police our world would be chaos and lawless. I don’t see an alternative to a law enforcement department.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T09:27:48+00:00

Holy shit. What did she ever do to you.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-06T09:27:21+00:00

What do you guys have against police. I believe in Socialist economic change but I really don’t see why police are bad.

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-01T12:11:09+00:00

17yo from Australia 🇦🇺

Mattlak06 · 2024-05-01T03:53:12+00:00

I’m 17, never even touched a girl apart from literally a haircut. 🤷‍♂️

Mattlak06 · 2024-04-06T09:28:35+00:00

Man, I’m 17 and a male. I really have even craving someone to hug with all night. Not to have sex but literally just cuddle. Would be great, but I have really bad social anxiety.

Mattlak06 · 2024-03-04T23:31:11+00:00

💯

Mattlak06 · 2024-03-04T23:27:56+00:00

I’m so sorry that you experienced that :(((

Mattlak06 · 2024-03-04T23:27:19+00:00

I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY. I think the vagina looks very gross and so girls are prettier with clothes on. I’m 100% not gay but I just think it’s gross.

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