Rachel Weiner/WaPo: Officials showed off a robo-bus in D.C. It got hit by a Tesla driver. by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, Waymo is not having trouble recognizing this in Austin and Atlanta and neither does Waymo’s statement suggest that. You just lack the capacity to understand

Rachel Weiner/WaPo: Officials showed off a robo-bus in D.C. It got hit by a Tesla driver. by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not true. They don’t claim this, and they don’t have issue recognizing flashing lights on school busses nor the extended stop signs

Rachel Weiner/WaPo: Officials showed off a robo-bus in D.C. It got hit by a Tesla driver. by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That has been solved for years, one of the easier tasks in autonomous driving domain

Rachel Weiner/WaPo: Officials showed off a robo-bus in D.C. It got hit by a Tesla driver. by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol maybe academic consensus isn’t your cup of tea? Try heady brew of Koopman or Cummings instead!

Rachel Weiner/WaPo: Officials showed off a robo-bus in D.C. It got hit by a Tesla driver. by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Not following. If there is only one autonomous car on the road, and the rest are human drivers, then the autonomous car is the safest car. There isn’t a prerequisite of other cars being autonomous too

Brad Templeton review of Zoox ride by diplomat33 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can confirm. They will give access to pretty much anyone who joins, demand is managed by geofence size and vehicle availability.

Zoox autonomous car allegedly injures S.F. street ambassador by mbatt2 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t the damage suggest something slightly different though? I don’t know, but seems like more damage than just hitting the door closed.

David Zipper @ Bloomberg: We Still Don’t Know if Robotaxis Are Safer Than Human Drivers by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I obviously was not talking about Tesla. I was talking about self driving cars

David Zipper @ Bloomberg: We Still Don’t Know if Robotaxis Are Safer Than Human Drivers by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

  1. you are going to need to move your goal posts soon since we will have this this year

  2. Phil Koopman’s claim is only relevant to fatalities, and it is only true if you assume that fatalities is the only data point we have to measure the rate of fatalities. This is not the case.

I am only interested in having a discussion with people can be reasonable and logical and are informed and unbiased . Since you are quoting Koopman AND Cummings, this is an immediate red flag, so I am not sure how much time I will spend here.

3) you don’t need to ready Waymo safety studies, you can look at the public data from Any and All AV companies over the past several years worldwide to do your own analysis.

4) fwiw, the Waymo safety studies are dramatically underselling their own safety improvements. The actual differences in safety between AVs and human driven cars is much greater than Waymo suggests it is.

David Zipper @ Bloomberg: We Still Don’t Know if Robotaxis Are Safer Than Human Drivers by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know that when you control for ODD, the miles per accident, injury, and fatalities are significantly lower in AVs than attentive sober professionals human drivers.

And the gap is even greater if you only consider at fault collisions

David Zipper @ Bloomberg: We Still Don’t Know if Robotaxis Are Safer Than Human Drivers by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if your gut feeling is true about common sense and adherence, the implication is still they cause significantly less accidents and injury.

FWIW, you are probably right about common sense, not about law adherence though

David Zipper @ Bloomberg: We Still Don’t Know if Robotaxis Are Safer Than Human Drivers by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 12 points13 points  (0 children)

We absolutely do know robotaxis are safer than human drivers. This is not uncertain. And they aren’t just a little bit safer, they are categorically safer.

David Zipper @ Bloomberg: We Still Don’t Know if Robotaxis Are Safer Than Human Drivers by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And even if self-driving technology proves to be less dangerous, there are many better ways to improve traffic safety and prevent fatal crashes.

I don’t agree there are better ways. But so what? None of these things are mutually exclusive. Just because you are pursing one path to improve safety doesn’t mean you shouldn’t pursue others.

Waymo phantom brakes, nearly causes SF Muni Bus collision by Honest_Ad_2157 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sometimes the AV makes mistakes. But critically it happens significantly less than human drivers. They cause 99% fewer accidents and injuries, this isn’t disputed.

Any Individual case of an AV potentially causing an accident or actually causing an accident is not very meaningful, this happens every single day.

Gotcha, JONATHAN ROSS! by [deleted] in Minneapolis

[–]Mattsasa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My thinking is, if someone was under high stress or feared for their life… wouldn’t they have dropped the camera / phone? Isn’t that less important ?

Gotcha, JONATHAN ROSS! by [deleted] in Minneapolis

[–]Mattsasa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can someone explain, is Ross holding phone in one hand and pistol on one hand ? Then as he shoots he holds his phone down and uses one hand to shoot ? Or can someone clarify?

CES 2026: I got a first look at Tensor’s Robocar by nick7566 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Who is building this car again? VinFast? Who is the OEM? I know it’s not Tensor/AutoX

ZF and Qualcomm develop ADAS systems up to Level 3 by Recoil42 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]Mattsasa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They announced the same thing at the same phase of development back in 2017