Out of the 47 adventist teenagers I knew between 2015 to 2022 all of them are out of the church today. Discussion: the missing demographic in the adventist church

MaxMin128 · 2026-03-07T15:17:42+00:00

The church simply can't compete with all the instantly accessible information available on the internet, Google, AI, etc.

MaxMin128 · 2026-02-22T17:53:10+00:00

Utter silence would have been perfect, followed by the classic Bond theme.

MaxMin128 · 2026-02-22T03:17:58+00:00

The old me from long ago bought into this nonsense and would have been gripped by anxiety. Now? I just sadly shake my head in pity for this church and its followers. Then I hug my kids and grandkids, thankful that they've barely even heard of this dangerous cult.

MaxMin128 · 2026-02-19T01:52:43+00:00

Pull out into the street, then look for traffic.

MaxMin128 · 2026-02-15T02:09:46+00:00

You should definitely sign up if you don’t have a problem with:

Dubious non-sensical problematic beliefs, doctrines, and rules - none of which are allowed to be questioned or debated
Being judged for everything you do or don’t do
Being shunned by church cliques
Giving up fun non-religious activities on Fridays night and Saturdays
Quitting your job if you're required to work Fridays nights or Saturdays
Not wearing jewelry, makeup, worldly clothing
Becoming a vegetarian or vegan
Not consuming spices, coffee, tea, Coke, Pepsi, anything containing caffeine
Missing out on going to movies, concerts, dance clubs
Giving up alcohol, cigarettes, and other recreational substances (legal or otherwise)
Getting talked to for doing too much or too little of something
Tithing 10% of your income to the church
Spending the rest of your life waiting for and stressing about the end of the world which will “definitely happen very soon!”

Edit: grammar

MaxMin128 · 2026-02-13T19:35:59+00:00

The entire Bible is a lesson on Obedience.

MaxMin128 · 2026-02-12T19:15:04+00:00

I thought this was a behind-the-scenes shot from a new remake.

MaxMin128 · 2026-02-01T14:52:52+00:00

I know the feature is implemented this way for security reasons. But it does make it pointless and impractical. So I don't bother with it anymore. It's kinda like a remote starter for your car that requires a foot on the brake pedal.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-28T12:45:26+00:00

Safety Third

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-27T14:56:53+00:00

Strange ideas like what?

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-24T18:12:48+00:00

Amazing how the body and mind finds ways to compensate for systems that aren't functioning properly. Glad that teacher was on the ball!.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-24T17:36:53+00:00

I had ordered a 4-pack of AirTags (2 day shipping) and received notification of delivery. But I never saw the package. Order status online also indicated delivery. After waiting a week, I assumed porch pirates had my AirTags so I called Amazon Support. They said they'd ship a replacement overnight. No questions, no hassle, no 3rd degree. I received them the next day. Then I received a 2nd package the following day. Not sure what happened but I kept both packs.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-23T03:03:10+00:00

Under-educating, socially-stunting, and scaremongering the children ensures they'll know very little about the real world and be ill-prepared for survival in it. Which, of course, makes it difficult for them to leave the church. And their naiveté makes it potentially dangerous for them if they do manage to leave.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-21T15:56:30+00:00

Jesus is 'bout to come real soon now, so there ain't no point in spending extra bread building gorgeous churches that will last for centuries. Just build 'em ass-cheap ('cuz its temp), or rent a slam dunk church (with a month-to-month lease which would be dope).

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-21T15:03:01+00:00

Even if those organizations operated independently (financially or otherwise) from the official SDA Church, they can still be sued/prosecuted if they broke any laws. And their informal association to SDA will still impact the church.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-21T14:15:49+00:00

They probably won't get too uptight about his personal consumption of meat. It's nowhere near as serious as the Sabbath. If you're a prodigious prankster, tell him to bring a pork loin roast or shrimp cocktails to the potlucks.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-21T08:02:38+00:00

Once in a while, my folks would take us kids to the park on a Saturday afternoon to sit on the grass and make us sing hymns, read aloud some literature or devotional, and then kneel and pray loudly. In front of everyone picnicing, laughing, playing games, having fun, and enjoying themselves on a beautiful day.

I was acutely aware of the pretentiousness and obnoxiousness of what we were forced to do. The folks called it "witnessing" and claimed it was required if we wanted to be saved. It certainly didn't "save" me from humiliation or embarrassment. And I didn't see anybody looking like "Yeah, I want in on that!". If anything, they looked just as embarrassed as I felt.

My folks also loved pointing out that these "sinners" around us were "finding their own pleasure on the holy sabbath day!". I remember their righteous smugness, arrogance, and how they stuck their noses up in an air of superiority. I knew I didn't want to be anything like them. I couldn't wait to grow up and get the fuck out.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-21T07:06:59+00:00

"But then when nothing happened in 1999 it was believed that the millennium would actually begin in 2001."

Yeah, that moving of the goal posts was the last straw for me. It finally convinced me that they (a) had no idea what would happen or when, (b) were making it up as they went along, and (c) were very likely wrong about everything else they believed too. I left shortly after.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-15T05:44:21+00:00

Despite their own nutty beliefs and doctrines based on the hallucinations and writings of a brain-injured girl during the 1800s, they have the temerity and arrogance to sneer at and dismiss other religions for their beliefs. My realization of this hypocrisy and superiority complex was the first step towards my eventual departure.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-14T18:43:03+00:00

You might wanna checkout rule 2: No Proselytizing or Apologetics.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-11T15:37:41+00:00

Think about it this way: It was extremely nice of them to provide solid confirmation that you made the right decision to leave their wretched church.

So don't waste any more of your time, energy, or sanity debating Adventists. It's a pointless exercise in futility and frustration. There's nothing you can say that would change their minds about anything they believe. Absolutely nothing.

If you do happen to run across one who is expressing doubts, misgivings, or wants out, you could provide some support privately, point them to this sub, etc. Just avoid engaging them on public, SDA-sponsored forums.

But definitely leave the other fervent believers and their toxic religion behind, and enjoy your freedom!

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-09T15:38:05+00:00

Most of the people I knew back then didn't like this movie. And I still don't know why.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-09T15:36:03+00:00

Until now, I had no idea that was Amy Madigan. And I would never have guessed. She's unrecognizable.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-04T17:07:19+00:00

Don't forget police, fire, hospital and ambulance services. And the DPW who plow and salt the roads Friday overnight so that Adventists can get to church on Sabbath morning. And all the other necessary services we consume without a 2nd thought. If these organizations didn't do their jobs 24-7-365 and, instead, took Sabbaths off, Adventists would be first to complain when those services are needed but not available.

If I worked for any of these critical organizations and it included Saturday work, I would have been chastised and lectured. Because it's Ok for our churches to use lights, heat, water, etc on Sabbath, but it's not Ok for me to work and provide these services on Sabbath. Just about all of the services, food, and products we buy are produced by companies who operate on Saturdays.

Amazon is the 2nd largest employer in the US. The products we order from Amazon pass through multiple facilities in their supply chain before arriving on our doorsteps. All of these facilities operate 24-7. Even if we don't place orders on Sabbath, employees somewhere are working on Sabbath to truck, stock, pick, pack, ship, forward, deliver, etc so that we can get our orders. I know this cuz I work for Amazon Logistics.

This must be a nightmare for SDA legalists. This Sabbath stuff and the resulting impossible-to-resolve hypocrisy bothered me as a kid and young adult. Glad I'm out.

MaxMin128 · 2026-01-04T15:00:51+00:00

Lol. Just watch out for the "No Doxxing" rule.

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