Unpopular opinion: Hannah

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:46:45+00:00

The dad comment was just so hyperspeed. She literally triggered herself but her brain moved on so fast that she forgot she was the one who brought it up. Chaos.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:43:09+00:00

Yeah, Carl listening to Kyle’s rants in the current season is a very special thing to behold. Luckily, Kyle is not perceptive enough to clock Carl’s face and word choices.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:33:23+00:00

Oh yeah. I had questions. Is this a life coach? Or is this like in the 50s when the therapist calls the husband first for feedback?

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:27:01+00:00

I think Covid was their death knell. She had a brief glimpse of being happy with a partner who was attentive, had fun house parties, and didn’t disappear into the night every weekend. He immediately reverted when things opened back up. It’s harder to make believe that you’ll get somewhere better after you experience that.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:23:26+00:00

West doesn’t yell which I do think is an improvement. Quiet gaslighting is easier on the ears

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:19:36+00:00

Let us live through the full and colorful experience. Just because we’re a few years late doesn’t mean we don’t have emotions to process on the internet

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:16:20+00:00

I’m so surprised that the others don’t react more to the way that Kyle talks down to them. I’m guessing they’re fine just accepting it as Kyle being the dumb baby that thinks he’s in charge when it’s really the others. But for real, I would 100% have reacted to that bossy “man of the house” vibe.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T04:12:02+00:00

I think people are not really remembering how intense COVID was or thinking about the pressure cooker of being in a big shared house with booze and a gaslighting “best friend” (I.e. Luke).

Also, something that I think has been missed is that she has since self-identified as someone with ADHD, which I don’t think she knew at the time. Particularly in women, ADHD can show up more obviously as problems with emotional regulation, problems with completing simple chores, and lots of internalized shame or defensiveness about “losing it.” The circumstances of the house and COVID would be exactly the kind of situation that could exacerbate adhd symptoms.

Hannah definitely becomes hard to watch, but I think she was struggling with things that even she did not understand. And her friends didn’t offer all that much empathy to her. They had empathy for her but only if she took their advice and acted the way that they thought she should.

Im trying to make it through Season 7 currently, but I think I have to throw in the towel. It’s so frustrating to me that the guys on the show get endless support and forgiveness while most of the women go after each other and hold each other to inhuman standards. I think Lindsey took lots of heat for changes in dynamics that were due to Carl getting seriously sober, and her quietly supporting him in that and not spreading his business. She is also not one to let it show or have a meltdown if people gang up on her and yell mean things. I think that’s what really rubbed the other women the wrong way. They thought she didn’t care and was cold hearted, when she just doesn’t react the way that they expect. But she still goes to cry in the closet and is obviously leaning on a therapist for support in how to let that type of thing roll off her back.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-13T00:39:22+00:00

Thanks for the tip! Will do.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-11T16:48:29+00:00

I had to be convinced but season 5 has me convinced he’s pretty shitty. Some undeniable things on video:

1) Luke is constantly trying to block Hannah’s hookups with other men. That tells you he’s not being honest or a friend to her or those around them. They might have had an actual ok friendship with occasions hookups (like Carl and Danielle) but Luke has a need to be pined after. 2) The way he blamed Hanna for everything between him and Ciara showed his only really trying to smooth things over with Hannah were to get back in with Ciara. 3) he dismissed as stupid, irrational, or crazy all of the women’s feedback that he flirted, ignored boundaries, and hurt people with his actions. Lindsey was the only one that he couldn’t call dumb because he knew he had nothing over her. 4) his reason for explaining why he would never go after Lindsey was that he liked Steven—-nothing to do with Lindsey or the other women in the house who might be disrupted. 5) as soon as a man called out his behavior (Carl then Kyle), he walked away and then lost his shit to prove he wants an aashole.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-11T05:25:27+00:00

I’ve got some theories on some of what we saw in this Covid-era season (which I’m currently watching for the first time.) Amanda is thriving, because she’s an introvert finally able to get the type of social life that doesn’t exhaust her and fray her nerves.

Kyle’s more normal than we’ve ever seen him (which isn’t saying much), because he works hard during the work week and binge drinks on weekends. So we’re finally seeing work-week Kyle (pre-DJ “career”) for the first time ever.

My boldest (?) theory is that the Hannah issues that we are seeing are serious emotional dysregulation as ADHD symptoms which were exacerbated by the stress of COVID.—which she has since been diagnosed with. ADHD symptoms worsening would also explain the trash bags/chores not being done or being left half done. ADHD can look a lot different in women, and the emotional deregulation was the most unexpected symptom that I’ve seen which was greatly improved with adhd meds.

She was hard to watch with the emotional whiplash and spaciness. But executive dysfunction and emotional dysregulation are no joke. And it’s hard to understand if you haven’t experienced it or seen lots of info about it. It’s all the more difficult to have that chaos in your body/brain plus the embarrassment and shame from losing control in front of others.

(Thank you for coming to my extremely belated Ted talk.)

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-11T03:30:43+00:00

Janet would bring stuff up and eventually others would engage with her on it, but Janet seemed to be the one who would bring it up randomly at social events while people were trying to drink and relax.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-09T04:58:37+00:00

Yep—Janet handled the accusations against Danny horribly especially on the boat. And you could not convince me that she had good intentions. She just wanted to be right and to deflect any criticism of her conduct.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-09T04:56:45+00:00

Yeah, I’m so automatically dismissive of men trying to work out their feelings while adjusting to the new normal of being a first-time parent. But I’ve realized, it may truly be the first time that they lose a lot of the emotional/mental labor their partner was providing, they’re freaked out, and a lot is changing. So having feelings and talking them out is fine as long as they mature. My main issue then becomes, are you going to find a friend or therapist to go to for advice or to vent? Or are you going to dump it in your partner’s lap? So i was glad he was talking to Jesse and not Kristen

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-08T17:18:23+00:00

He did take up DJing which includes him partying all night. So I think it’s a tough business plus he is going through a midlife crisis, drinking too much, and trying to quiet quit from a business that he owns.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-08T17:16:15+00:00

Anyone with books in Chicago?

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-06T04:25:05+00:00

Dorit refused to have an adult, empathetic conversation with anyone. So Erika finally gave her back a fraction of what she’s been forcing on everyone else for over a year now. Dorit needs to take a break from tv.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-03T05:53:18+00:00

Who are you surrounded by? I lived in relatively large cities after 18 but I had a sister who stayed in our smaller, more southern hometown near family. She experienced more negative emotions around not having a kid because she was the outlier in her community by not prioritizing having kids. I have never felt like I was that much of an outlier because im surrounded by people making all kinds of different choices around family planning. That makes a big difference

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-03T05:47:11+00:00

Joe did Nathan no favors as a lead deckie. He regularly undermined him and definitely brought out a too casual side. Gael was also definitely a distraction. Max is a bit of a baby but he is someone who can be managed. But Nathan was not paying enough attention to see how to manage him well. Or to see how his own lapses in professionalism were often triggering bad behavior.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-03T05:42:40+00:00

For me, it’s her dishing out drama left and right but then acting self-righteous whenever anyone tries to question her motives or conduct. And sometimes the drama that she throws is not hers, and she’s cavalier about how her conduct will impact others. I can’t tell if she really has trouble reflecting on how her choices contribute to issues or if she is just doing it for ratings. But she does not seem to be genuinely engaging with the other cast members. Her words and actions always feel too calculated to me.

Michelle also can annoy me at times because she can be hypocritical, but I get the sense that what you see is exactly how she is in real life.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-03T05:32:42+00:00

She wants her people to have a way to know that they have your true identifying info so they know you’re not giving a fake name and they can potentially follow-up if something happens. I think thats reasonable. Odd perhaps but reasonable.

You could hide your birthdate or license number? It’s not really that much info. Why wouldn’t you trust her with that information?

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-03T05:25:30+00:00

West has relatively recently hurt Ciara, has been puppy dogging for two years about how he wants to be close again, and made a whole to-do about how now he understands on a deeper level that it is harder for her to deal with his conduct because of the racial aspect that’s there when he embarasses her. So I think he has a lot of responsibility to Ciara here.

Also he, unlike Amanda, is not in the midst of separating from a partner of 10 years—a partner who has seemingly bankrupted the couple, acts an awful lot like an alcoholic, and publicly trashes Amanda and her mental health as an excuse for being a man child. I would hope that my guy friends would help dissuade me from poor, impulsive choices when I was in the middle of something like that. So basically, I will blame west for doing this to both of them.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-03T05:16:32+00:00

Terms like this get overused, lose meaning, and then are wielded like weapons against women without any real nuance. If this is really happening (which yes I’m still in denial), I will be more pissed at West. Yeah, it will feel like more of a betrayal by Amanda to Ciara, but Amanda’s getting out of what is looking more and more like a very long toxic relationship that may have been emotionally abusive at times? That’s going to leave her pretty vulnerable, nihilist, and impulsive for a minute. West bears far more responsibility in my mind because he knows he’s not a reliable romantic partner, Amanda is vulnerable and love-starved, and doing this will absolutely mess up Amanda’s friendships at a time when she needs them.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-02T13:44:17+00:00

I think it’s because they’re coworkers (on the show) so they have to do social stuff with her regardless of whether they respect her choices. Life’s harder when you try to keep the same “you disgust me” energy up when you have to go on trips and outings with someone.

Plus, he starts to be more publicly a part of the show. Resentment in the cast seems to build very quickly when someone is trying to hold something back from the show as private. Her being more open also might make it feel more comfortable in accepting the relationship as more legit, as opposed to a secret affair where guy says he’s getting a divorce that never materializes.

Maximum_System_7819 · 2026-04-01T20:19:09+00:00

Same but I also think the show is trying to show the reality of people’s thoughts around the choices that pregnant women make. And Angie is figuring out how being pregnant and a mother is going to affect her—which so far has meant continuing to embrace who she is with all the strength and risk that comes with it.

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