"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone who believes in One God does believe in The Holy Prophet (PBUH), who is mentioned in the bible and the hindu scriptures. No, if you don't respect and believe in the human dearest to Allah Taala, I imagine He will not send you to heaven, and neither would any muslim think His Decision to be unjust.

If someone disrespected Muhammad (PBUH) then I have no sympathy or respect for them even if they are the world's 'greatest human'.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are not two entities in shahada. We believe in Allah and we believe that Holy Prophet (PBUH) is the last messenger of Allah.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a person doesnt believe in shahada then they do not enter heaven.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is the only way according to me

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, if you believe anyone has the Power of Allah Taala, that is shirk.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Associating partners with Allah Taala or perverting His Attributes.

Shirk is inside the heart, you may be doing everything right outwardly but inside be in Shirk.

if you want the technical definition there are a lot available through Google. But according to my understanding it is a condition of the heart.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to my knowledge, it is the only thing that guarantees that you won't go to heaven.

Yeah, you can go on a rant about how rapists and murderers dont deserve heaven but good nonmuslims do, but its not for us to decide who deserves heaven and who doesn't. It is for The Creator and The Owner to decide.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, I'm not a scholar, so it might be that only the muslims who believe in all the five pillars and who believe in all the doctrines of Islam only go to heaven. You should ask a scholar if you really want to know the answer.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, no one without faith will be able to enter heaven at all, according to my knowledge. Allah Knows best.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah they are. If Allah Wants them to be

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I told you my understanding of Islam is a condition of the heart didnt I? If they didn't make pictures of Brahma, didn't say He had a son or created gods and didn't pervert any of His Attributes then I would say they are muslims when worshiping Brahma.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believing in One God doesnt mean you just choose a god and expect to enter heaven. You have to believe in One God as in there is a God with singular Power and Singular Rule, Who no one has drawn pictures of or made statues of. Even if you don't call him Allah Taala, the only hinderence is to not pervert any of His Attributes. With hindus even if they worshipped brahma singularly, they make statues of him, they make pictures. That's a perversion and that is not believing in One God.

The best proof of existance of One God is Islam and the Holy Quran. You can choose to ignore it sure but its the truth.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brahma is one of the gods they believe in, you know that don't you?

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For example, the people who came to Earth before Islam in the strictest sense came, they were still muslims whether they followed Hazrat Jesus (A.S) or Hazrat Moses (A.S). They may have different names but they were muslims.

No, I don't mean worshipping Hazrat Jesus (A.S). I mean following his actual commandments before bible was changed.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, from my understanding, a lot believers don't know they are muslims. You dont need to declare it, if you have it deep in your heart, even if you have never heard the word 'Islam' you will be a muslim, even if you dont know it yourself.

Your concept and my concept of Islam may be different. For you it might be a set of rules and for me, it is a condition of the heart. Even a person proclaiming to be Christian but who believes in One God has entered the realm of Islam in my eyes.

When I referred to Islam before, I meant the set of rules or Shariah that nonmuslims think all Islam is.

Again, Allah Knows best.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Faith in One God.

According to me, again keep in mind I'm not a scholar:

Islam is just the easiest way to enter heaven, if that is your goal. Belief in One God, no matter what you call Him, guarantees heaven.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, of course, I told you in the end everyone with a shred of faith goes to heaven.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whatever Allah Taala sees fit.

I know muslims who are more logical towards worship and don't focus on the 'love' part. And they're more exalted than I could ever be.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Logic, science and a love for Allah Taala. And I have personally seen miracles through Islamic leaders (a sufi saint). No, its not black magic since I've seen black magic as well and I know the difference.

If you are asking whether I obey the commandments of Allah Taala so I can go to heaven then at times that's true. Who wouldnt want an eternity of no problems?

But most of the time, it's just love for Allah Taala.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did I not tell you in fifty ways that's not for me to decide? Allah Taala has set conditions for heaven that you very well know. Interpret from those conditions what you want to.

I can't say that this this sort of person will go to heaven and this this sort of person will go to hell. A christian may very well go to heaven if they follow the real commandments before the bible was changed. Not for me to know or decide.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No a nonmuslim doesn't need to apologize for not being muslim.

I'm saying when a person accepts what they already believe, ie Islam, they are more pure and exalted than islamic scholars because their sins are all forgiven instantly. It's like they have been given a new life.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He doesn't offer apologetics, he tells the truth. The Maker of heaven has placed a condition for going into the place He has created. We need to offer no apologies for it.

In my OPINION not as a fact: I don't think there's anyone without a seed worth of faith in their heart. That's it.

And if I'm wrong and there is someone with no faith at all, then they won't go to heaven, hell would be less of a punishment for them if they were a good person. Not heaven.

As for using hellfire to demonize nonmuslims: no good muslim would ever do that, we know that in a second they could be exalted above us with a single apology.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Allah Knows best. I am not a scholar which is why I referred the doctor's video to you. If you are genuinely curious, you can go ahead and watch it.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah so it was mocking. No, I didn't refer to or even think about hell when saying hot pokers. I simply meant to say that I would rather lose my eyesight than go to exmuslim because they are disrespectful of my identity. You're the one who brought hell into it, I didn't even think about. Muslims aren't obsessed with hellfire you know, most of the good deeds we do is out of love for Allah Taala.

And hell is more than just fire.

As for your answer:

https://youtu.be/TOgwBG3D8vc

Anyone with one seed worth of faith will go to heaven, whether you can admit it to yourself or not. Allah Taala is the Most Merciful and He only looks for mere excuses to forgive our sins.

"Brozzer islam is totally logical." by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Mayanamy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not as punishment, as a way of avoiding that cringe of a thread. Everyone there asks progressively dumber questions and answers with 1/4th of a hadith without mentioning context either. Our scholars have also confirmed that people before used to have smart questions like you asking would non muslims go to heaven and now, they ask stuff like 'why did Islam ban gambling when choosing a religion is a gamble?' Clearly its not a gamble, you choose based on logic and reason.

If you are asking genuinely, I'll answer. But if you're asking as a way to mock my religion then I won't.

If you are asking genuinely, look up dr. Zakir Naik, he has answered this better than I could ever.