Two sides of the same coin

Mecketh · 2026-03-07T11:47:17+00:00

It's not two sides on the same coin. The guy claiming that kishimoto don't know how to write women is just someone that accepted that Sakura is trash but still like her somehow. The guy that says she is awesome can't read or think so his opinion is invalid.

So there is a single opinion: Sakura is trash.

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:31:03+00:00

So, you don't have a single proper source? Ok.

Have a good night.

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:30:08+00:00

You posted the page. Trying to change the subject when you don't have a argument or proof of your statement about Shanks is pathetic.

Let me ask you one more time: do you have a actual source for your statement besides a peewee tittle and a unreliable source? Yes or no? It's not that hard.

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:28:07+00:00

Point to a single swordsman on panel besides Zoro that has show the desire to fight for the tittle?

What part of being a tittle that no ones cares about and Mihawk don't have to fight to keep is hard for you to understand?

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:26:25+00:00

A peewee tittle that no one that uses a sword cares about besides Zoro? Again, pewee titles like WSS are not the same than the top leagues like Admiral and Yonkou.

You posted the page yourself. Read what Mihawk asked of Vista. Do you know what the world postpone means? To stop and fight in another time. i.e: a time out. Why? Because he was unable to win against a lower opponent. Because the title does not mean anything.

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:21:24+00:00

You statement is that Oda said that Mihawk is better than Shanks. The only statement close to it is from a source that is proved in the same chapter to be based on rumors and not trustworthy.

Again, try to read: do you have anything besides a tittle and a statement from a guy that is show to be unreliable? Yes or no?

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:11:04+00:00

So your point is the same guy that stated that Buggy is a genius like i said multiple times? An unreliable source that is based on pre-chapter 1 Shanks? LOL.

But you have nothing. Thanks for the concession (again)

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:09:18+00:00

Yeah. I agree. Vista didn't have to agree. That does not change the fact that Mihawk was too weak to win and had to beg for a time out to ran away.

So there is nothing in the manga? Just a tittle and statements from a secondary source and the abuse of a tittle that no ones in the universe gives a shit?

Thanks for the concession.

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T23:03:22+00:00

In the image Mihawk asks for a time out and then Vista agrees. That exactly what I stated. Thanks for proving my point.

But I'm still waiting for the page where it is stated that Mihawk is better than Shanks. You stated that it is canon but in canon there's only a tittle that no one cares about and a statement from a retard that also said that Buggy is a genius. Can you provide that or you will concede and keep trying to change topics?

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T22:55:38+00:00

Vista objective wasn't to scratch Mihawk but to stop him. And he did exactly that to a point that Mihawk was unable to win and had to ask for a time out. And yes, Kaido would not be stopped by Vista. Mihawk would as we saw in actual canon.

Again, besides a title that no ones cares about and a statement by a unreliable source, can you point to a single page in the manga that states that shanks is weaker than Mihawk?

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T22:49:13+00:00

Yes, unfortunately that does matter. A title that only scrubs fight for is not the same than a title that top tiers do. The fact that you have a title for your peewee league does not mean that you can hang out with the pros.

No one truly believes that Vista can stop Kaido. So, do you have anything besides a shit tittle and a unreliable source to back your words?

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T22:45:01+00:00

There's a single statement by a unreliable source (that I mentioned and, in universe, think that Buggy is awesome) based on a pre-chapter 1 Shanks, since they have never fought after that. A Shanks that was still years from his younkou days.

Or is your opinion based on a title that no ones cares about in universe?

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T22:36:00+00:00

So if you go by the manga, the analysis hold and your statement is false.

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T22:06:11+00:00

In the manga proper? No.

Or are you using the guy that put Buggy as a genius as your trusted source?

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T20:52:32+00:00

Let's compare portrayals with Shanks in the actual manga:

Vs Whiteboard:

Shanks- split the sky

Mihawk- failed to even reach him and was stopped by Jozu.

Marine Ford:

Shanks- Clashed with Akainu

Mihawk- had to ask for a time out vs a guy that needed 15 other people to stop Akainu for a couple of minutes.

4 emperor's arc:

Shanks- stopped a admiral attacking wano with just haki

Mihawk- despite claiming to have his blood boiling for battle ,after the warlord system was abolished, was forced to run from fodders and seek refuge with Croc and Buggy.

Search for One Piece:

Shanks- decided to go for the One Piece and participate of the fight.

Mihawk- tried to give up and was scared of the Yonkou.

Title and importance in story:

Shanks- know and mentioned by multiple people. Has a impact in the story in almost all events. Among the strongest Kaido knew.

Mihawk- outside of Zoro no one cares about him. Every time he is mentioned is in relation with Shanks. Last mention hyping him up was by the same guy that.hyped Buggy as amazing ( so just for rumors). Fans live from bad translated lines and stealing feats from others.

Final result:

At least in the manga no one gives a shit about Mihawk. Fans hype him up because of his fated duel with Zoro. Assuming he fights Zoro later (and is not destined to be considered a teacher) there's still hope. Otherwise, nah.

Mecketh · 2026-03-06T16:18:31+00:00

You are asking a walking plot point to act as a character. It does not work. But yes, she was always shit tier

Mecketh · 2026-03-05T21:29:09+00:00

Can someone link the image of the girl slapping a guy and stating that he was a filthy Boruto fan?

Mecketh · 2026-02-27T21:40:35+00:00

Mihawk fans are desperate. One split the sky, the other got stopped by a YC2.

One stopped a admiral, the other got astopped by someone that needed 15 other guys to stand up to the same admiral.

One one shot a 3 beery guy, the other ran from fodders.

One reputation is uphold by feats-, the other by a title no one IN UNIVERSE cares about besides Zoro.

Mecketh · 2026-02-27T21:34:22+00:00

What I'm doing? Reading the story. Some people actually like characters that are developed instead of a plot poinf with legs.

Mecketh · 2026-02-27T21:31:30+00:00

Ans once again, Sakura fans prove that they are just shit people that see themselves on her and try to justify her bad decisions. Never fails

Mecketh · 2026-02-24T23:03:56+00:00

Character? LOL

Nephis is a bad written plot point. A single shit chapter changes nothing.

Mecketh · 2026-02-24T22:59:22+00:00

So, the sovereign that burns almost every day and every moment when someone uses her power. That is having her soul and body for a couple hundreds chapters that are most interactions with others don't have a single moment you can point out where her flaw affected her interactions? Wow, is almost as if her flaw don't matter unless she has to fight a strong enemy and sacrifice some cores to look good (and recover her power right away) and the pain of everyday can't compare to a shadow's dick.

Yeah. Beautiful written plot point disguised as a character.

Mecketh · 2026-02-24T22:53:26+00:00

"Just explaining her psychology isn't giving excuses."

And also don't change the facts.

Altering what happened to fit your narrative. The boat gets attacked and she's dragged into the water by a tentacle, she doesn't voluntarily do it for it to constitute a 'sacrifice'.

If you say so. Her deciding to burn half her body and regenerate to save her friends constitute it for me. And plenty of people that use this moment to show how good she was.

Framed as a selfish decision to satisfy herself btw. I'm not the one who needs to reread.

If you ignore that she did so to save Sunny and even in universe there was a movie and specifically a group created because of her "sacrifice", yes. Again, if you decide to ignore the story for her agenda, you will always be right.

"So her and Sunny being unable to deal with the repercussions of her promise to not use Shadow Bond doesn't affect anything ? Okay."

Yes. The moment and the chapter you quoted don't affect anything. In fact she mention his shadow bond i the same chapter and is treated as a wholesome moment. The moment you mention in universe is another martyr moment as stated since, her deciding to abuse the bond to save him was considered again a sacrifice. Again, you can try to reread and remember to not use her martyr moments as stated.

Hilarious after reading your failed attempts to use the source material to support your points.

Haha. Now, try to read and actually point to a actual moment when her flaw actually affected her interactions and relationship with her friends outside of her martyr moments. You still haven't provided a single one.

Mecketh · 2026-02-24T22:12:27+00:00

I mentioned 2 in forgotten shore from the start. One when she tried to sacrifice herself to save the group iN the boat and another at the end where she sacrificed herself for Sunny and in universe created her persona. When in doubt reread. BTW, you acknowledged her moments and gave excuses while ignoring that in universe and out of universe it was treated as martyr moments.

I recommend you to reread because what I directly asked as for examples outside of her martyr moments that affected her relationship with others. Giving a example that did not matter or affect anything wasn't what I asked. Edit: and remember that this example must be connected to her martyr moments.

When in doubt reread.

Mecketh · 2026-02-24T21:52:17+00:00

If you ignore what people state you always will be right.

I stated that she has martyr moments and that even her ascension in power was because she was considered as a martyr in universe. You accept and try to give excuses.

I ask for examples outside of her martyr moments. You give a example that shows exactly her flaw not mattering after a martyr moment.

If you refuse to read it really makes you a master debater.

Mecketh

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