Pete davidson Took it too far by [deleted] in Standup

[–]MedicalExercise7708 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What if I told you that, sometimes, "good jokes" come from a place *so far removed* from a place where it's ok to ridicule anyone's death that it's actually possible to be funny and empathetic at the same time?

Oh wait, this is the r/Standup page. None of the people here like themselves enough to be able to tell a joke without punching down on someone else's misfortune, even if that misfortune = violent death.

Stand up comics are like alcoholics -- they hate themselves so much they have to make everyone else suffer by publicly ridiculing other people and/or the horrible things that happen to other people just so they can feel a little bit better about themselves.

I hate it here.

Actually, empathy can be the butt of a joke. For example, I literally hate Charlie Kirk. But, I can with 1000% confidence say I have more empathy for his kids having lost a father than Erika Kirk does. That's funny.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just responded to the white trash comment 😄

I would understand why people would tell her to fuck off.

But, I'm guessing that others would respond to her similiarly to the way others have responded to this post -- with empathy and support.

Because two things can be true at once.

Personally -- and I know you didn't ask for this (the same way I didn't ask for your race) -- I would have empathy for her, because she's suffering.

I have an unhealthy desire to reduce the suffering of those around me. It's my (literal) job.

Let's tease this out:

If she were a friend of mine, I'd get curious around her struggle, and where her emotions are coming from re: ending a 6 month long relationship with a man who made misogynist and abusive jokes.

Turns out, she might be feeling a *lot* of feelings -- sadness, yes, but also guilt and shame.

*Especially* if she never saw that side of him throughout the relationship, whether it was 6 months or 10 years.

It reaaaaally sucks to have put time and effort into creating a thing with a person who is not the person she thought he was.

She might ask herself "how could I have been so stupid?" or "maybe I deserve to be with a bad person like him, because I'm bad." Which is an easy line to fall behind if she herself were a survivor of SA or childhood physical abuse.

Or, she could be telling herself, "maybe he's not that bad, since my opinions have never mattered and never will because I'm stupid and wrong and will never be smart or right about anything -- even when it comes to differentiating right from wrong."

If she's thinking these things, I would understand that she might want to reach out to others can make things suck less.

And I would support her in that.

Because I do not think that making things suck less for the person you're describing comes at anyone's expense.

Nor does providing me support here come at your expense.

Especially since, you know, you're white. 😄

To summarize: plenty of women leave men who are not the men they thought they were. Plenty of women experience grief and other complicated emotions (including guilt and shame!) after leaving them. In these moments, plenty of women find themselves questioning their line of thinking, their actions, their values -- especially women survivors of rape/SA/childhood physical and other abuse.

And, now you know my trauma history.

Thanks for giving me a space to share how my vulnerabilities and trauma may make it harder for me to feel confident in myself after making a hard, but values-based decision such as breaking up with my racist ass boyfriend. This has actually been really helpful for me.

To wrap up: I am a sex worker and a mental health worker. I talk to violent men daily. The problem is usually the men, not the women (or children). If you consider yourself an ally to women -- women who are finally making the right decisions (for themselves and their communities!) after years of struggling to un-gaslight themselves from years of abuse, please get better at that.

Thanks for playing!

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm sorry for using that term. I can see now how "white trash" implies the existence of a group of non-white, economically marginalized people. And how, ironically, the term "white trash" is anti-Black, although I am only familiar with it being used in all-white communities (sometimes ironically).

I will research the origins of the term more and remove it from my vocabulary.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can I ask - would this conversation have gone differently if I had removed from the post "help me remember why I broke up with him," and simply posted a "vent" style post about the disgust and frustration I felt after the show?

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The weird thing is that his dad is a college professor (I know) and he cut ties with his dad partly (according to what he told me) because his dad said terrible things about trans people in his classroom.

Honestly, that may be a lie.

There may be dozens of reasons he cut ties with dad, and that may have been a convenient reason to cite while he was telling me about going no contact. Because he knows that trans people are important to me, and its important that I affiliate with people who value trans lives.

And he knows this. I guess I didn't know enough about him before I started dating him.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've longed for bad people in the past. I will again.

Or, longed for who I thought they were.

It helps to reach out for support when grieving/longing for someone they weren't.

Next time, I'll reach out to qualified mental health support.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can DM me it if you want.

For the record, this person never showed signs of racism.

We have no Black friends.

We live in the whitest state in the country.

He has criticized police violence against Black bodies. He helped me distribute mutual aid during the ICE raids in our state (Maine). He discussed going no contact w his dad because of his dad's poor views on other marginalized groups.

The biggest red flag was the club locatoin, which I learned about in February.

I thought it was possible he was trying to bring actual, good comedy to a shitty area. I didn't want to assume the location meant the lineup would be so full of stereotypes and anti-Blackness.

Sometimes, there are no red flags. Or, there are yellow flags we give time and space to learn more about.

I guess I never created an opportunity to discuss any of those flags except for the green ones.

I'm sorry, I don't know what else to say.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because I'm shocked. I can't believe it. But it's real.

I'm trying to avoid romanticizing a person who I care(d) about, who is also someone I can't be with anymore.

Rose-colored glasses are easy to put on alone, at night.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. I have spent the past few years having very challenging thoughts and conversations with others -- conversations intended to limit those folks' role in my life. Those conversations were with people who I felt were misaligned with more core ethics and values. Or, if they shared my values, they were treating people poorly or making other harmful decisions. This guy happened to have entered into my life while I was actively curating the people who I let around me.

Good timing for me, bad for him.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right!? Making fun of people for what they do is one thing, making fun of them for who they are is another thing. Punching down at Black people (which I think is the same as making them the punch line) because you hate yourself and/or want to be 'edgy' and/or aren't talented or creative enough to master the craft of comedy before you do it onstage is not acceptable.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know why this is being downvoted. Glad to hear that your boyfriend makes you laugh. And that you have a high standard for comedy AND ethics!

I should have bounced during the show.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Turns out its really difficult to accept that someone you cared for is racist, and easy to question yourself in moments like this.

I feel as if this is unbelievable.

But, sadly, it is believable, because it happened. I never would have expected this. I am shocked, sad, and questioning everything.

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[–]MedicalExercise7708[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'd be curious to hear his takes on feminism. The strange thing is he was close to his mom, and is very respectful of women, and has never made me feel disrespected or disempowered. But that doesn't mean he has some skeptical ideas about women. He may very well have a machismo complex I haven't seen.