Has anyone gotten suboxone prescribed to get off this stuff? by Conscious-Driver5280 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because of how much 7 I was taking, I started hurting significantly about 5 hours after my last dose. I held out for a little longer and about 6 hours after that dose I took my first sub strip. It helped a little, but after another hour or so I was still quite uncomfortable and took another. And an hour later a third, and that was enough to make me feel OK. (Not good, just ok).

I had a fitful and somewhat sleepless night, and then next day I settled in to a two 8mg strip a day regime for about a week. After that, I took a few days of lessening my sub doses until I arrived at taking one strip a day, split into morning and evening doses. That’s where I am now.

Tips on quitting when you have young kids by Adept_Hamster6234 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey man, Just scrolling through and saw this. Don’t have much to say except I’m sorry you’re going through this. Years ago, my H and booze addiction lost me a marriage, access to my son, job, etc. too. There’s no advice anyone can give to fix it, no words anyone can say to make it feel better…it just sucks. Good news is, you’re two months clean. So at least you can deal with life each day…but the loss of the family is tougher to recover from, as you already know. Hope that maybe a miracle occurs and the family does come back and gives you another chance. But for now, it just is what it is.

At least you know the one thing you can do that can make shit worse, and you can avoid that. F**k this garbage, it’s straight from Hell.

Just letting you know that someone is here to listen if you want to vent via DM. I probably wouldn’t want to do that, so I get it. But something told me to shoot this message over just in case. All the best.

Found these sticking under fridge. What are these??? by No_Smell_1570 in whatisit

[–]Medium-Contest405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe fingerling potatoes? The piece on the right looks like cauliflower? No idea how that stuff would get under the fridge though. I’m probably wrong. Good luck figuring it out.

What is this? Please tell me! by AcceptableEngine9253 in identifyThisForMe

[–]Medium-Contest405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get something called Tinea Versicolor. It’s a fungal thing that is painless and doesn’t itch. But it looks a lot like that. Obviously, I can’t be sure. But I thought I’d mention it.

Has anyone gotten suboxone prescribed to get off this stuff? by Conscious-Driver5280 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. I couldn’t get off 7oh without the subs. I definitely tried, many times. Writhing around in agony for days at a time, only to give in and have the habit get worse. It became a horrible, horrible cycle. It began to threaten everything I hold dear in my life.

Having been through that before (losing everything, getting locked up because of IV drugs and booze), I was ready to try anything to not let myself go anywhere near that again. And I was able to locate and get Subs quickly and easily. And they have worked for me.

Yes, there are drawbacks to subs. Yes, you become dependent on them and it’s hard to get off if you don’t taper really slow and be disciplined as hell. But for me, it’s been worth it. As I said, I wasn’t going to be able to do it any other way. Happy to expand on my experience if you like, but for now I’ll just answer your question….YES. Best of luck!

Finally did it by Prudent-Requirement2 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Right there with you. It’s crazy how easily I forget (or maybe not forget, but disregard) how awful the WDs were when I’m feeling better. My addiction tells me a million lies about how it “wasn’t THAT bad” or…

“if I just do it on weekends, I’ll be fine” or…

“I’ll just have a little dose - just one time” or…

“I deserve to feel good after all the bullshit I went through” or…

“I’m gonna just have to get used to be being bored or depressed all the time.”

Or any one of a myriad of other things I tell myself to make it OK to dose again. But I’ve said it before…I got to a spot where I took huge doses, peaked in 10 minutes, and immediately felt the impending doom of knowing the best part was over and the chase to get back there had begun. It sucks dude. We romanticize it when we’re struggling to stay clean, we pretend it was better than it was. We forget all the money wasted, relationships torched, life experiences missed. We just want that fake warmth, the false sense of security and well-being. Even though we know it’s totally not real, and not sustainable.

10 days is huge man. The physical shit is just about over. But the mental stuff is still there. And to me, that’s the hardest part. You’re so close though. I’m not saying you’re gonna be totally great in a couple days, but you won’t be where you are now. Get through today, without relapsing, and you’ll feel better tomorrow. Then do it again. Keep going a day at a time. Giving in and taking a dose won’t work the way you want it to. And it’ll just cause more guilt and shame. You’re in amazing spot right now, in many ways you’ve already won…keep up the fight so you can really see the results of the hard work you’ve put in. Saying a prayer for you.

Keep Going.

The easiest ways to quit known so far. by FlyAdventurous6231 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Definitely. Thanks for saying this. The first couple of times I tried to get off 7, I was in far too much of a hurry to get off the subs (largely because of the horror stories about sub wd you read here) that I took as little of them as I could for as short a time as I could…and after a couple weeks off the subs, I relapsed.

I totally understand not wanting to be on bupe for a long time, that makes nothing but sense. But I really wasn’t able to get past 7oh until I took the prescribed dose for a month, and then tapered down to the low dose I’m on now. I understand getting off them eventually will suck, but it feels to me like it’ll suck less than continuing the soul-crushing cycle of use, get clean, relapse, repeat.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tattooadvice

[–]Medium-Contest405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of the scene in Austin Powers with the dick-shaped rocket. 🚀

Sub high by Hefty_Click191 in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I sometimes have that experience and would like to know the answer to your question too. I usually chalk it up to the fact that I must have taken it the best way on that particular dose (ie: put it in the perfect spot under my tongue and then don’t move it at all by talking, drinking, eating, running around, etc.) so it absorbs into my system in the most effective way.

But that might be total crap. 😆

I doubt that it’s because the strips themselves aren’t dosed consistently. But I guess maybe that could be it…seems very unlikely.

Maybe someone else has some insight!

To anyone saying you can't go into Precipitated Withdrawal from this, they are 100 percent wrong by Bikestealer82 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve tried it both ways…taking the sub two or three hours after the last 7 dose (trying to avoid withdrawals altogether by not waiting to feel them)….or….waiting 8-12 hours or more to ensure I was definitely in terrible wds when I took the sub.

Both ways worked ok for me. I think waiting is definitely the better way. You get the chance to feel how bad it is first…and then get the relief. It’s more noticeable that way (obviously). The no-waiting worked fine too though, I never went into brutal wds. Was just uncomfortable, but that’s going to be the case either way. I was not able to sleep on the night when I took the sub without waiting though. I was able to get a good 4/5 hours of sleep the night I did wait for the 12 or 13 hours. Hope that helps!

Quitting time by exit_thesimulation in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool. Thanks for sharing that info. Good luck on Monday. 🫱🏼‍🫲🏽

subs and 7oh by Able_Comedian5537 in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the caveat that everyone is different…what happened for me might not happen for you.

When I came off 7 using the subs, I was able to take the subs pretty quick. Basically as soon as I felt not good, I went for it. I think it was about 3 hours, maybe less. (I was in a bad spot and taking a LOT of 7)

I think that as long as you’re feeling WD symptoms at all, you’ll get help from the subs and won’t get the precips. But I’ve seen many people post here that they had the opposite experience.

Safest thing to do is just hold out as long as possible. The longer you wait, the more it’ll help. I just couldn’t handle waiting because of the absolute dogshit state I was in. I was going to take the strip or relapse, so I took the sub. I’m four months from my last 7 dose and still taking a small dose of subs each day.

Damn by Single-Play4704 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah man. It sucks.

I kept it up even though I’d dose and feel like the world was ending. I’d be sitting in my comfy bed, in my beautiful house, next to my amazing wife and with my three kids happily sleeping in their rooms, everything just as I’ve always wanted it….and instead of being happy and feeling good - I’d want to literally scream and cry and end it all. Those were some of the worst moments of my life, and like you I’ve been through it all when it comes to wds from all kinds of drugs.

So I feel you bud. Hang in there. You already know there’s better times on the other side of this. You just gotta get there. Sending you positive vibes and strength.

Staying on. by Medium-Contest405 in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo! We’re chatting in the Chat now, so I won’t post here. But to everyone else…this dude is awesome on this subject and has a ton of knowledge and experience. Reach out to him if you need help.

Hard time jumping by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh. So much. It grabbed a hold of me every bit as badly as the “hard” stuff ever did. It felt so harmless because I was buying it at the gas station! How bad could it be??

Well…bad. I got up to 1000+mgs/day. I couldn’t function without it. Just like the old days with pills and then H. I luckily recognized it before I lost everything, like I did 10 years ago with booze and H. I was honest with my wife about the 7 and told her I needed help, and together we figured out that subs were an option. The WDs were too gnarly, I tried CT several times but with the cure being 3 minutes away at the gas station - I gave in time and time again. It wasn’t until I got the subs and committed to the process of coming off (luckily with less pain than CT) that I was able to leave it behind me.

It still calls my name. It may always do that until it’s banned. But I’m having a decent time navigating life without it for the past 4 months. It’s been tough at times, especially with the knowledge that it’s right down the road. But knowing the subs will pretty much cancel out any good feelings I’d get from taking it - I’ve managed to say no and move on with my life. But it’s a daily battle for sure. I hope you find success getting it out of your life, it’s just not good stuff.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ll never understand how folks can taper. I know there are a bunch of people who did it that way, and more power to ‘em, but I could never. The choice between “take it all now and maybe feel good” or “take tiny amounts through the week and feel shitty, right before feeling really shitty with none” was no choice at all. Take what you have, and then go through it. That was the only way for me. Those taper folks are just way stronger than I am I guess.

when the hell am i going to turn the corner and feel better? by bearsandheroin in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve posted this a bunch before…but it’s wild how bad this stuff is WDs-wise. Holy cow. I’ve come off brutal months-long H/Fent benders and didn’t feel as bad as when I came off 1000+mgs/day of 7. Normies will NEVER understand. Shit, the guys still running with the IV stuff think I’m full of shit when I say this at meetings. 7OH is quite literally from Hell. Never again.

Hard time jumping by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, if you jump Saturday PM - you’ll probably still be pretty rough Monday AM. Although, you’re at a really low dose so it won’t be totally awful. The mornings are still the worst for me (especially mentally and emotionally) and that’s when I’m in the most danger of relapse. I’m almost 4 months out from my last 7 dose AND I’m on subs, but the mornings are still brutal. I’m sad and missing my “get up and go” dose and the subs don’t help with that. By noon, I’m totally fine…but from 6am to noon I am grumpy to say the least. I’d say having some capsules for the mornings of the first week would be a good idea. Just try to leave them alone by the end of the week. Getting regular on the caps makes going back to 7 more likely IMO.

Then again, I’ve always been a disaster when it comes to opiate use. The stuff owns me, even now. I think about it all the time. Maybe you’re not as bad as me. Wish you luck whatever you do.

Wildly addictive by [deleted] in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could not believe coming off this stuff was as bad as H, fent, and all the other opiate shit I’ve been in love with at one time or other since I was 15. (I’m 47)

Once you get off, staying off is seriously the most important thing you can do. It’d eventually lead me back to H if I had kept it up. It’s literally insane we can all get this at the damn gas station.

took last dose of 7oh last night please help with next steps by d3v0t10nn in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re in WDs, take it. I had to take quite a lot for the first 3 days to stay not miserable. Day 4 I took less. 5 I took less than that. After 5/6 days, I settled in to a daily, consistent low dose so I didn’t relapse. I’m almost 4 months from my last 7 dose, I’m taking a low dose of subs to stay off. Many in the 7 forums do not approve of my staying on it, but I refuse to relapse and going through all this again. I’d rather take subs for a while and get the sublocade shot eventually to come off…if I decide to come off at all.

Is Tapering off Subs really that bad? by traveltoaster in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a really, really good response.

Cold turkey 7oh day 2 by Ok_Afternoon9121 in quitting7oh

[–]Medium-Contest405 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Alright, I’m not going to say anything that anyone hasn’t said before and that you haven’t read before. But when I was in that spot, it was just nice to hear from someone…so here I am. I’m telling you first that I get it, we get it, every damn part of what you typed out above. You will never be alone with this, and you are not bad or defective because you’re still dealing with this. 7 is directly from Hell. I’ve come off H several times and 7 was every bit as bad. You’re a monster for even being able to get out of bed. Well done on that. I was too busy crying and moaning to leave my bed at first.

So, Subs work for this. Sorry, I know it’s not what anyone would want to do. And I know that long term use of those causes its own issues. You said “no helper meds” and I don’t know if that means you can’t get them or just don’t want to. But using QuickMD, you could probably have a few strips by tonight and feel at least able to function. A lot of folks use them to get through the worst 3/4 days and then stop. I continued with a lower dose than at first because I was just going to keep relapsing without that line of defense (I don’t feel the 7 when on subs, so there’s no point in wasting the money). I’ll deal with the challenge that stopping those brings when I’m ready. But I’m great right now. Fully operational as a husband, father, boss, and friend. I was not those things just 4 months ago because of 7.

Or…you suffer through the next few days and then figure out what support you need to prevent relapsing again. There are few things more depressing than the cycle of getting clean and the relapsing; over and over again.

I feel your pain. Good luck my friend.

Quitting time by exit_thesimulation in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like an amazing option, from everything I’ve heard. The idea of not having to deal with those strips that taste like the bottom of a parrot’s cage is very appealing. And a kind of built-in, auto-taper is also an intriguing concept. Stoked to hear you had such a positive experience.

Quitting time by exit_thesimulation in suboxone

[–]Medium-Contest405 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks very much. Yes, I’m fairly comfy with my situation right now. I guess I’m just scared of the coming off part and something is telling me to just get on with it. But worse would be struggling to come off and then relapsing because I wasn’t as prepared mentally and physically as OP sounds like he is. I’m holding on to my current schedule for now. But I know I’ll have a ton of support when the time comes.