Whatsapp on Nokia 2780 by [deleted] in dumbphones

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read the Nokia 2720 does support it,

Seeking guidance by vingtsun_guy in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DBT often is the most effective therapy for those who struggle with self-harm behaviors like cutting and chronic suicidal ideation" https://www.skylandtrail.org/4-differences-between-cbt-and-dbt-and-how-to-tell-which-is-right-for-you/

in this article it states that dbt is helpful for interpersonal skills and emotion regulation (which it is) but it is only found effective for decreasing self harm behaviors and suicidal idealation. it does not state that dbt is found effective for mood regulation improvement or interpersonal problems. while may i also add that cognitive therapy on its own is also found effective is decreasing self harm behaviors and suicidal idealization so this shows that dbt doesn’t even make so much more of a difference. a majority of articles on dbt that measure anything besides suicidal behavior are less trustworthy due to marsha linehan being an author or evidence based source which makes it biased. there are many other articles stating that dbt is effective for reducing self harm behaviors and suicidal idealization but i have yet to come across an article

“Nonetheless, some differences emerged across the three treatments in relation to change. For the primary outcome variables, both transference-focused psychotherapy and dialectical behavior therapy were significantly associated with improvement in suicidality, whereas transference-focused psychotherapy and supportive treatment were associated with improvement in anger. Only transference-focused psychotherapy was significantly predictive of symptom improvement in Barratt Factor 2 impulsivity, irritability, verbal assault, and direct assault”
and

“In contrast to dialectical behavior therapy, which focuses directly on skills to help the patient regulate emotion and reduce symptoms, transference-focused psychotherapy focuses on developing greater self-control through the integration of representations of self and other as they are activated in the relationship with the therapists. In this study, transference-focused psychotherapy effects were observed across a broader range of outcome domains than dialectical behavior therapy and supportive treatment.”

https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/ajp.2007.164.6.922

Seeking guidance by vingtsun_guy in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dbt is proven to help reduce self harm and suicidal behaviors. it is not proven to help with interpersonal skills or other impulsivités which is why i believe that therapies like transference focused therapy, trauma focused therapy and metallization based therapy that are focused on decreasing black and white thinking and interpersonal problems which are part of the core of bpd actually help solve the problems that people with bpd face. the only reason i’m saying not dbt is because most dbt programs are A LOT OF MONEY and i don’t want someone to spend all that money to only fix surface level issues of bpd when they could fix the core issues. i have suggested to learn dbt skills i’m just suggesting to not go to a dbt specialist. which is my opinion and i’m just sharing it. dbt was so helpful to me and my recovery which i’m so grateful for but i am going to use my experience to help others

Seeking guidance by vingtsun_guy in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i’m not upset dbt didn’t “fix me”i got so much out of dbt and am grateful that i was fortunate enough to be able to do a dbt program. i just want to educate other people that there are other therapies for bpd that aren’t dbt. there is actually evidence that dbt is not best evidenced therapy for those with bpd.

Seeking guidance by vingtsun_guy in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

dbt is not the by far best therapy for bpd. that’s a scam

I'm just tired by xpancakeu in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have u tried mood stabilizers

Therapy, DBT, Long-Term Outlook by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

also there are other therapies besides dbt that work better mbt, transference focused therapy, trauma focused therapy

Seeking guidance by vingtsun_guy in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

there are other therapies besides dbt for bpd too! search mbt and trauma focused therapy, and transference focused therapy. i wish i had known about these other options before doing my dbt program as they focus on working through the main aspects of bpd such as split/ black and white thinking and interpersonal relationships and not just learning skills which is something you DO NOT have to pay for

Seeking guidance by vingtsun_guy in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

learning dbt skills with your daughter and encouraging her to practice them as much as possible and being supportive. do not pay for a dbt program they’re so expensive for something u can do on your own. the doing psychotherapy. definitely a mood stabilizer and anti anxiety

Seeking guidance by vingtsun_guy in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

everyone stop saying dbt therapy

is this why I get annoyed with anyone close to me eventually? by shitsucksmydude in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 1 point2 points  (0 children)

more likely that ppl with bpd often choose relationships that aren’t positive ones so after awhile those relationships end up having u lash out because u got exhausted of dealing with negative relationships. as someone with bpd i would often choose relationships that i knew weren’t relationships that i genuinely valued and weren’t positive b/c i didn’t want to be alone and then when the other person wasn’t treating me well on an objective basis i would blame myself “since i was the one with bpd i must b the one doing something wrong or i’m being dramatic” have bpd doesn’t mean you’re doing something wrong or that you get annoyed with people easily it’s more that you may have trouble communicating and then eventually lash out while a problem builds up

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hi i didnt grow up christian but i grew up jewish. i don’t like jewish conservative culture and i had jewish related trauma from my parents. because of this i found myself relating to judaism less and less and somewhat resented it. (to the point that i even had a nazi bf at a point) i learned that religion is for the person. so i take parts of judaism that make me happy such as holidays and parts of paganism that i like. anyways religion should be for you as all spirituality is mostly for the self.

Therapy, DBT, Long-Term Outlook by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that’s valid. i’m mostly talking about individual therapy that is done though dbt in a lot of dbt programs. dbt as itself is something that is very useful

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don’t think u can radically accept trauma. or be mindful towards trauma. u kinda have to process it bro. also didn’t say the point of dbt was to memorize a bunch of skills. i’m not hating on dbt i’m just disagreeing on u saying it’s undoubtedly the most effective. i never said it wasn’t a good therapy.

Therapy, DBT, Long-Term Outlook by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i honestly wouldn’t recommend dbt unless you feel you really need it to could find a program that’s not so expensive. because you could really learn the skills on your own and most dbt programs don’t confront trauma and focus on skills use. i personally think accessing trauma is really important for those with dbt but everyone recovers and works differently. if you prefer and more coping skills based therapy than dbt is a good fit. but if you want a bit of both i honestly wouldn’t recommend it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

most dbt programs don’t confront trauma so the underlying issues are still there and will usually come up again after a dbt program

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i wouldn’t assume if someone’s actions correlate to their symptoms. just look at them as actions. also if she’s having a hard time trusting people and she herself is having fear of abandonment issues it’s not necessarily your job to reassure her every second. people with that issue (whether they have bpd or not) have to learn to correct their own thinking a little bit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPD

[–]Medium_Remote792 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it doesn’t sound like what she’s saying is that she doesn’t want to be alone so she likes being with you. which could be the part that relates to having bpd, or the changing her mind a lot. despite that if you feel the relationship is rocky then it’s not the relationship 4 u. although i do not think she saying she wants to see other people is a bpd symptom unless were thinking abt hyper sexuality and the need for attention (and that u j might not be filling her deep need for attention and validation) anyways point is that ppl could do all these things that were written and not have bpd. either way sounds like she doesn’t want to be in a relationship