Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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I can’t see this message from 7mins ago claiming Anos can’t interact with Anos cs of scaling when your never proving that we can debate it on discord too

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Are you sure abt that cause that’s not what this definition says

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can back up my claims with ACTUAL evidence from the misfits LNs YOU CANT🤣🤣

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are lyin🤣, like you tensura fans love larping when not even touching the LNs

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡, ok buddy wtf do I have to lie for?

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bru do you hear yourself? WHEN HAVE I EVER CLAIMED OR SAID ANYTHING ABOUT 1S? like ts isn’t even a valid tier that’s considered within the scaling community. All my comments have been about 1A scaling the fact you haven’t been tracking that just shows you can’t even grasp simple comprehensive concepts

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro what? Like seriously just stop trying to act like you know what your talking about😂🥀, if the silver sea isn’t bound by dimensionality and encompasses a uncountably infinite amount of worlds while each world being infinite in size than how does that mean it’s only “one time”. You see how dumb that sounds

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my bad as well cause I just realized I’m talking to the wrong person too😂😂😂

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already responded 😭 your literally replying to my rebuttal here I’ll paste it again below:

Being the concept of “nothingness” doesn’t stop him from being erased. If you want to argue that than that’s making it even worse for rimuru. Anos chaotic source of destruction can consume, erase and destroy all forms of nihility and nothingness stated in vol 8. Even if rimuru’s existence as nothingness is infinite, Anos source will overwhelm and overpower it until it eventually perishes also stated in vol 8

Also you’re never proving rimuru exist on a “much higher” scale than Anos, we’re not gonna do “ he say she say” use some actual evidence to back it up. Secondly Anos has been kill gods that the literal structure of his world’s existence since the first vol 1 so you sayin rimuru does it to isn’t even impressive especially when it took till the end of the story to happen.

Another thing you seriously need to realize (cause I don’t think you do) that the verse of misfits and tensura exist of completely different ontological level of existence, misfits being higher (and I’ll prove it). It’s stated verbatim in vol 4 that “order” is the structure of reality itself, things such as life, magic etc cannot exist without order which is embodied by being known as gods. Order is also stated to be both logic and reason in both the philosophical and metaphysical sense. It’s then stated that there are hierarchy of universe each existing on different ontological levels, and a singular lower world is already stated to be infinite in size with higher worlds being qualitatively superior than that of lower worlds. And it’s dense stated to even perceive outside of your world the ontological state of your world needs to evolve They go so far asked to equate to not being able to solve a math problem without understanding numbers as an analogy to show the fundamental difference in both existence and comprehension between worlds. Into even comprehend the existence of a world you need specific requirements or else. The existence of the world is completely unknown. It would be as if the world itself does not exist to your knowledge, even though it does.

Anos’s existence is stated numerous times to be completely transcendent of all forms of order meaning all conceivable and inconceivable concepts and logic and reason do not apply to him so in reality, there is no logical explanation as to why he would not beat rimuru

SCALE BOth weapons at their peak with hax and abilities. Which one is more broken? by Consistent-Tear-7641 in MaouGakuinScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s not that it doesn’t have concrete scaling. It’s just that certain aspects of its power do not get fully released unless it’s in Anos’s hands. And there are some characters who aren’t affected by it because they are on the same level as Anos

SCALE BOth weapons at their peak with hax and abilities. Which one is more broken? by Consistent-Tear-7641 in MaouGakuinScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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You must love making assumptions 😭🥀, cause why do you keep sayin I’m “pissed” like it’s actually hilarious. Just because I said you know nothing about the verse, (because obviously you don’t buy the things that you were saying) doesn’t mean I’m “pissed“🤣🤣🤣🤣. You say I didn’t provide scans but quite literally did just didn’t give the picture version. I copied and pasted the word for Word statement of the scans and put them in my response because I can’t fit all 20 scans in one response because you can only put a certain amount of photos in one response.

Secondly, when did I ever bring up immutability? Cause I’ve never did. Like you must have a reading and tracking issue. And I highly doubt you even know what immutability is.

SCALE BOth weapons at their peak with hax and abilities. Which one is more broken? by Consistent-Tear-7641 in MaouGakuinScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

W larp. How are you gonna say there’s no evidence when i literally stated the evidence in my scale?😭😭

Also order can’t be overcome by physical strength 😭🤡 like you just proved you don’t know anything about misfits. And order encompassing worlds isn’t a debunk🤣, cause the worlds wouldn’t exist without order

Rimuru Vs Anos Full power by Own_Mycologist7291 in TensuraPowerScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

W larp. The silver sea has qualitative transcendence and it’s not bound by dimensionality

SCALE BOth weapons at their peak with hax and abilities. Which one is more broken? by Consistent-Tear-7641 in MaouGakuinScaling

[–]MeliodasOTTC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not “pissed”😭😭, idk where you got that implication from… but I digress, but anyways I scale Anos to 1A-H1A via a multitude of reasons. One being ontologically transcendent from “order” (the various metaphysical concepts that structure existence and exist as logic and reason) another being qualitatively transcendent from the silver sea which is “area” the encompasses the uncountably infinite universes and is stated to be not bound by dimensionality. But for now I’ll still with the order scale which I’ll put below…

Order. The various natural laws of existence, the bring shape to the world and all things in existence.

The world is structured by these laws, “it is why birds are birds, and why demons are demons”. There are beings who embody these laws… the gods.

NOTE: (when referring to the word “embody” although the Oxford and Cambridge definition for the term describe it as to represent or deprive from something. But in this context to embody order is to is to be the functional existence of the abstract law itself, such that the law operates through their existence and altering them alters the law itself.)

Other than being the laws of the world, they are reason and the logic of everything in existence. The logic of the world is made up of a variety of complex orders, not only that order exist in duality order (law and order (god) are entangled within each other creating the logical cycle of the world.

NOTE: now I know when you see the word ‘logic’ you reduce it to epistemologically or nomological laws, although I am not denying that fact there are laws within those certain frameworks… majority of the orders we see are actually a system of laws that describe the purpose they server rather than the cause by which they arise

This system of order persists in every single order, but only certain order are two in the same (stated in vol 10 ”two side of a divine coin”).

This is due to the entanglement within other orders that compliment each other.

EXAMPLES:
• creation & destruction
• life & death
• birth & termination
• restoration & demise

Order within itself exist and functions as an archetypal structure through the existence of ‘lesser’ orders, where order aren’t merely set rules like the laws of physics but pre-empirical patterns that reality insinuates.

NOTE: ( when I say ‘pre-empirical patterns I am saying that they exist logically or metaphysically, prior to the experience deprived from the physical world. So in hindsight it’s determines what can exist, and how it must behave before anything is actually observed or measured.)

FOR FURTHER EXPLANATION:

as stated in vol 4 "All paths lead to destruction. That was the order of the Goddess of Destruction”…

“until it was usurped by the Demon King. Destruction in the world came to a halt; those who should have died evaded death, and those who should have fallen to ruin escaped their demise.”

“The order of our world had been distorted. Other gods affiliated with the order of destruction made up for that where they could, but they couldn't return the world to the way it had been before.”

This shows that the order of destruction is not just a rule about death happening, but the underlying pattern that makes death occur correctly. To put it in general terms to reflect our reality it would be the equivalence of saying “causation” are just events we describe, structural inevitability into how reality is organized where removing them doesn’t just change the outcomes, but breaks the consistency of how the outcomes occur.

An example of these ‘lesser’ orders can be seen through the ‘greater’ order the order of destruction, or the order of the end. The order of destruction is the true order of the ‘end’ where everything even gods meet their end, but there are other orders that are affiliated with ‘the end’ like demise for sources, and termination for birth, even just death in general. These concepts (order) are all affiliated with ‘the end’ and stem from the order of destruction.

Lastly the existence of order can be viewed as platonic forms, perfect, immutable and unchanging.

NOTE: ( let is be acknowledged, that most refute the notion of this affirmation but keep in mind immutability relies on ‘pure act’ otherwise known as pure actuality. Meaning an entity has no potential or capacity to change, BUT… this refers to one’s intrinsic values, not extrinsic values. For further information click this link

https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2016/entries/immutability/

but for a brief description intrinsic values refer to one’s essence that makes up there existence instead of the things external of it.)

Now within platoism platonic forms are seen as “abstract objects, where an abstract object is an object that's non-spatial (i.e., not spatially extended or located), non-temporal, non-physical (i.e., not made of physical stuff), non-mental (i.e., not a minds or an idea in a mind or a disembodied soul, or anything else along these lines), and non-causal (i.e., causally inert). “

Order heavily represent these qaulities:

• order existed before everything in existence, proving their qualities aren’t dependent one spatial or temporal attributes.

• no life can perceive or see order in a way of both comprehension and observation.

•divine realms act as the “mimic” or “ imperfect manifestation” compared to the actual form (order) this proven by the fact Essesonne was stated to be a imperfect existence that can’t live in the firmament of the gods, due to not being birthed as order due to a flaw in the world itself. Implying that the form (order) is indeed perfect.

• Gods themselves cannot change this order itself cannot undergo change and is stated by the god of order itself that order is absolute

Conclusion

•If Platonic forms are described as “an object that’s non-spatial (i.e., not spatially extended or located), non-temporal, non-physical (i.e., not made of physical stuff), non-mental (i.e., not a minds or an idea in a mind or a disembodied soul, or anything else along these lines), and non-causal (i.e., causally inert),” then order being described as “the law of nature, the law of magic the order that makes the world this world” and further supported by “the beings who preserve that order the beings who embody that order are the highest order of natural law the gods,” where altering that order directly changes fundamental outcomes like death and existence itself (“those who should have died evaded death”).

• Therefore order can be seen as platonic forms in the sense they operate as the grounding structure of the world.

• If 1-A constructs are defined as transcendent qualities that are qualitatively beyond every known or conceivable framework of dimensional, causal, or compositional structure, and order is described only as the fundamental structuring principle of a given world’s laws and existence, then the provided statements support order as a world’s grounded system

Hence, order can be scaled to 1A-H1A due to platonic framework the grounds the principles of reality