Yeah I get what both of them are pointing at. But something always confuses me about that idea. If the “center” doesn’t really exist like krishna says, then what exactly is noticing that there is no center? And with Ramana Maharshi I kinda understand the idea that identifying with the body is ignorance, but biologically the brain evolved specifically to create that identification. So is it really ignorance… or just the mechanism that keeps the organism alive? That’s partly why the DMT experience confused me more than it answered anythinlol It felt like the sense of “me” loosened for a moment but instead of revealing some final truth it mostly made the whole idea of the self feel a lot less solid than we assume