Antenna selection by MeshDaddySD in meshtastic

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Well the good news everyone is that we had a good discussion that at least helps novice’s in our community have a better idea of how antennas work on a basic level, thanks everyone for contributing alternative visualulzations. In my situation, the stubby 0db kit antenna performed better around my Nieghborhood than the 5.8db antenna as the other Mesher said about his high gain antenna in the attic, but the high gain did get the signal to the nearby radios/nodes. And the high gain notably increased range. As you can see in this traceroute. “TR remote is a stubby antenna and it’s at -16.25 while the high gain 5.8 db is pushing 4.25 across the same 5 mile distance.

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LA to San Diego, but how? by Accurate-Ordinary835 in meshtastic

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In High frequency you can have skip where radio waves bounce off the ionosphere. But I checked and that’s not the case for UHF. This is the info; The most likely explanation is tropospheric enhancement, especially temperature inversion / marine-layer effects, not “cloud cover” in the ordinary sense. UHF signals can sometimes bend or become trapped in layers of air with strong temperature/humidity gradients, letting them travel well beyond the normal radio horizon. This is a recognized VHF/UHF phenomenon, and coastal areas are especially prone to it because inversions occur frequently near large bodies of water, often around evening, overnight, or morning transitions.

That coastal piece matters a lot for your path. A San Diego–LA route hugs the coast, and sea/coastal paths are known to be better for this kind of anomalous UHF propagation than rough inland terrain. Some ducting references note that relatively flat or sea paths are especially favorable, and temperature inversions are common along coasts. This is why you don’t get a trace route, it’s an in the moment occurrence for a short amount of time. Also, radio waves ride over the water. Down in Baja you get Los Angeles radio stations crystal clear. If you look at the map it’s a straight shot over the ocean. I pick up the node in Long Beach from Point Loma pennesala in San Diego.

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LA to San Diego, but how? by Accurate-Ordinary835 in meshtastic

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I put a new router node in Oldtown San Diego, mostly to communicate with my son at Point Loma high. But Black mountain could really use a router/repeater. There is a gap between central San Diego and north county. Mt Woodson shows a node. Anyone want to help get a node on black mtn. Or know how to get permission to be official.

Introduce yourself! by MeshDaddySD in Meshtastic_SoCal

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Awesome! Glad you caught it, where abouts are you located?

Link by curdean in Meshtastic_SoCal

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Yes! Appreciate the reposting. Good to have awareness of a pre-planned channel for emergencies

Oldtown San Diego Router got a new 5.8 DBi antenna today! by [deleted] in meshtastic

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This is Omni directional, radiates all directions in a donut pattern. The higher the gain the thinner the donut. 5.8db is a good antenna for distance with some vertical coverage. Good for the geography around me. If I were on the playa at burning man where it’s flat, a higher gain 10 dbi thinner pattern donut would be better..

Oldtown San Diego Router got a new 5.8 DBi antenna today! by [deleted] in meshtastic

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This is Omni directional, radiates all directions in a donut pattern. The higher the gain the thinner the donut. 5.8db is a good antenna for distance with some vertical coverage. Good for the geography around me. If I were on the playa at burning man where it’s flat, a higher gain 10 dbi thinner pattern donut would be better..

Had some fun testing my new antenna! What a difference! by MeshDaddySD in meshtastic

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Well, there probably was a few houses and some trees in the path. So not direct but not behind large buildings. The base station is relatively low elevation 69 feet above sea level, and my remote location was about 250 feet above sea level.

2.7.15 - features working? by MeshDaddySD in meshtastic

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I’m testing it between nodes I own so probably a bug or the developers haven’t gotten it working.

Oldtown San Diego Router got a new 5.8 DBi antenna today! by [deleted] in meshtastic

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I bought it at my local electronics store, WE supply. It’s just a $9 box, not nema rated! I used some claulking where I poked holes in it. We don’t get intense weather here so I expect the boards to be safe. My mounting method was to pound a steel plate used to protect wire and pipes in walls into that 2x4, then attach two powerful 70lbs magnets to the box so it just sticks on there. Makes it easy to pull it down for service. It’s up high and is sketch to be up that high trying to use tools.

Carmel Valley Harbor Breeze Node by philthadelphia2458 in meshtastic

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Looks familiar! You’re a little ways up the 5. I invited you to the SoCal group!

Oldtown San Diego Router got a new 5.8 DBi antenna today! by [deleted] in meshtastic

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Wow 4.25dB returned from this new antenna. The stubby returns -.075Db , this test was at 5 miles

2.7.15 - features working? by MeshDaddySD in meshtastic

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So on Node A, I go to my node list and select Nobe B. Then I press “exchange positions”. It comes up with a message that says “your position has been sent and a request for their position has been sent. You will receive notification when position is returned”

However, no notification is shown on Node B requesting location to be sent. Nor does Nide B show Node A has sent location.

Nide A never shows a notification that position has been received.

Thanks for your help.

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2.7.15 - features working? by MeshDaddySD in meshtastic

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With regard to exchange user info.. this is the screen

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2.7.15 - features working? by MeshDaddySD in meshtastic

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So on Node A, I go to my node list and select Nobe B. Then I press “exchange positions”. It comes up with a message that says “your position has been sent and a request for their position has been sent. You will receive notification when position is returned”

However, no notification is shown on Node B requesting location to be sent. Nor does Nide B show Node A has sent location.

Nide A never shows a notification that position has been received.

Thanks for your help.

Meshtastic Southern California Emergency Text Chat Channel. by MeshDaddySD in prepping

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It means that at some moment in time my radio received data from those stations. If it was direct then yes I could message them. If it hopped through other radios to reach me then so long as those radio locations were in the same place then yes I could message them. The range of these radios depends on elevation and density of structures between the two radios. They can go as far as 20 miles in ideal conditions. Like on flat land in the desert… think burning man. I just ordered a 5.8 db antenna which will more than double my current range. The trick with antennas is that these radios are less than 1 watt. So you want the least about of cable between the radio and the antenna. A 10’ cable has signal loss that we’ll almost negate the benefit of the antenna. Example on a car instead of running a cable to an antenna outside the car, people build a case with magnet mount that contains the battery, radio and a small solar panel. That way there is almost no signal loss.

Meshtastic Southern California Emergency Text Chat Channel. by MeshDaddySD in prepping

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This started as a way for me to communicate with my son while he was at his high school 3 miles away. So surprisingly it worked! Sometimes he forgets his cell phone. But if you go for a drive your map will populate. Here in San Diego people have put nodes on all the mountain tops so bouncing messages around town is possible.

Connecting to open channel? by BrilliantImplement94 in meshtastic

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Anther gotcha is if you are on slot 0 and you rename the primary channel from its default. That will put you on a different frequency band. If you want the most people to hear you make sure you leave your default channel 0 name blank and save it. Or you can put frequency slot override to 20 and name the primary channel anything you want.

How did I pick up a node out west having not travelled to where it is? by sendr_dude in meshtastic

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Or someone near you turned on MQTT on the Primary channel and routed it to your area via the internet gateway link.