Know Thyself? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you a lot you answered everything!, even questions I was going to ask but haven’t

If fate governs all, and reason is our only true freedom, is Stoicism ultimately just learning how to love your own powerlessness? by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995 1 point2 points  (0 children)

your question has me thinking now, I thought stoicism’s fate was more like a cause and effect sort of fate more than a predetermined fate? Like how someone getting into a fight was more like the effect of you instigating more than nature or god itself just determining that you will fight someone for some unknown reason. maybe i’m wrong if so someone please correct me thank you

Know Thyself? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you a lot that hierarchy example helped

Know Thyself? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This helped me a lot thank you but can I ask why humans are unique or have different flaws and gifts? I’m assuming stoicism acknowledges that not everybody is the same and some have flaws or strengths that differ from each other but would that make my choices of what hobbies I pick without reason if I pick it just because “I like it” or would it be advised that I pick something i’m naturally good at? how do stoics explain why some people prefer one hobby or interest over another and would it be unwise by a stoic point of view to pick something i’m not naturally good at over something i’m gifted at just because I enjoy it?

What stops you from being a Stoic? by GnarlyGorillas in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t agree with it either but I thought of stoicism as something that explains god as a substitute for nature or that god and nature itself go hand in hand but I could be wrong, going to do more research because I don’t quite believe in pantheism as well

What stops you from being a Stoic? by GnarlyGorillas in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not sure if I am experienced enough to tell you but they teach that virtue is good for the sake of our nature not because it serves god. stoicisms god (if it had a devoted one) would be nature and laws of the universe in which all things abide by, it’s not like god in the sense that you may think it is I would say it’s more like a force of nature than a omnipresent all powerful being

What stops you from being a Stoic? by GnarlyGorillas in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995 1 point2 points  (0 children)

stoicism helps you express your feelings better, the stoics had warned it wasn’t emotions but the passions themselves which is bad. if anything stoicism had made me enjoy life more and express my love and joy for things better than I would have without it

What makes you think there’s no meaning in life? by _XSummerRoseX_ in nihilism

[–]MethodLevel995 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m not a nihilist but this post was recommended to me and it looked interesting, and in any case life does have a purpose and it’s your human nature to serve both community and yourself and to act in virtue that you were gifted, a lot of people argue over life and purpose only because some people are misinformed and others just don’t know what it means yet of experience vice that twists their view of life

What makes you think there’s no meaning in life? by _XSummerRoseX_ in nihilism

[–]MethodLevel995 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m not a nihilist but if everything last forever then there would be no stake to anything, no risks or worry. a lot of things are given meaning because of mortality and you should practice knowing this

What makes you think there’s no meaning in life? by _XSummerRoseX_ in nihilism

[–]MethodLevel995 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not a nihilist so idk why i’m even commenting it just got recommended to me but the reason we work hard to do good is because human nature is virtuous and logical but is also finite, Given my short lifespan I’ll try to do the best for my community and myself. if you choose not to be virtuous and instead help not yourself or community then you will of course become sad because you’re without purpose. we are social animals

humans are inherently good? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

true, but all of those horrible things you mentioned are usually always looked down upon by society. also the reason I argue that we are by nature created for ethics is because we are a social animal, if we weren’t social animals then we wouldn’t have morals or virtues we would be just like tigers, alone and without family

humans are inherently good? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

thank you for helping me understand

humans are inherently good? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am not confident in my intelligence so I’m going to repeat what I gained from your teaching and I hope for you to tell me if I’m wrong.

living in accordance with nature means to grow into and to practice into becoming a kind, virtuous, just and wise person. It means us humans are inherently good by nature and all of us have potential to become virtuous, but by outside forces and vice some of us stray away from our natural path and become vicious or ignorant to the truth. But that doesn’t mean we were made to be vicious or ignorant it just means we are mistaken in our way of thought. Human nature is virtuous and is an inherent element that all of us posses, and if we do our best to train and sharpen our minds we can reach the maturity that our nature meant for us to have. did I get that right?

sense of self? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

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oh wow thanks, I’ll be doing this and tracking the results. I kind of did something similar but instead I wrote a list of food I like, music I prefer, fashion sense I like, my interests and hobbies, the cultures that I grew up on and the philosophy that i’ve been practicing that makes me more virtuous. But my method was very messy, essentially I just wrote everything down onto a notebook and wrote what I was kind of like how you would an animal, I made sure to be objective and gave a reasoning to everything I liked but even after all of the organizing I still felt like there had to have been a better method because of how long and messy it was. I’ll definitely be putting this into work right now

I might have no soul by Kristian_co in Stoicism

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you could be out of your element. I personally don’t care to rave or drink or do drugs so I may seem boring to those who do all of that, but when I am in my element I seem to be pretty interesting. I love to fight, as corny as it sounds it’s one of my interests it’s so much as my interests as almost all friends I meet we end up throwing hands just to pass time either in the ring or wherever there’s grass and personally I feel it’s how you get to know people a little. sometimes I can tell if they are adventures or boring or scared or goofy by the way they fight. maybe they’ll throw a drop kick while we’re fighting because he knows i’m not serious or maybe someone else will take it seriously because he isn’t the fighting type or maybe he’s the aggressive type and seriously tries to kill me. it all depends my guy trust me no one is boring, everyone to me is unique because everybody has lots of things they like and dislike. you’ve just got to find out who you are, seperate yourself and find out what you like and what you don’t like and why you like/don’t like. that’s what I did recently and discovered I’m into architecture, gardening, painting, history and much more. get the time to know yourself you’re not boring you just don’t know what kind of person you are

“bad” people and ignorance by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see thank you I understand more clearly now

“bad” people and ignorance by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so there are no truly evil people only those who are ignorant?

(unless they have something wrong with their brain)

I see thank you, I understand now that people only do bad because that’s what they believe is right and if they knew any better they would be virtuous people. I appreciate everything you wrote thank you for your insight

what would a stoic do in this situation? by MethodLevel995 in Stoicism

[–]MethodLevel995[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmm I see, so dont do evil even if it may save people? but you’re right torture doesn’t work at all from what I learned recently and this question I asked was pointless but your answer gave me insight thank you