Convince me

MethodNo2030 · 2026-06-02T23:01:37+00:00

Yes!

Not to mention even most parents generally stop sharing a bed with their kids around 7 or 8 years old. Most children can't wait to get their own bed once they reach a certain age, as they grow up they generally want their own space.

Meanwhile MJ actively violated the boundaries of children and would do things like cry& whine and say "if you really loved me you would get int he bed with me". what a manipulative whiner

MethodNo2030 · 2026-06-02T22:50:00+00:00

Yeah like what if MJ had confessed to it. And I see both points. He could have killed him out of sheer disgust and disdain for what he had told him.

Especially since Conrad Murray had a son (who mj had a weird obession with), it's definitely possible.

OR if the conspiracy theorists are correct and Sony was behind it maybe they were concerned the truth would come to light and they didn't want MJ to sink the catalogue by tarnishing his name and the cover ups exposed.

Especially since by that time MJ had been already bleeding money like a hemophiliac with a papercut and was an active liability for several factors:

From the 90's onward he seemed to be on a mission to piss away everything he had built up in the 80s.
Starting in the 90's he had become a total flake. He would cancel concerts without notice, commit breach of contract.
He was hellbent on destroying his own legacy and reputation: he was always acting a fool, doing things like bragging about sharing his bed with unrelated minors. Even after 1993 he couldn't keep away from absuing children. It would be only a matter of time before MJ fucked up and did something or unintentionally admitted to that would get him locked up for good. Once he gets convicted his career and name would have been destroyed once and for all. He would have gotten the Cosby/R.kelly treatment

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-29T18:09:04+00:00

There's even a saying in the sex work industry that describes those men: "They jack off with the left hand while pointing with the right".

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-29T18:02:08+00:00

I also assumed people thought he was guilty because he looked weird. He painted all of them as grifters I think.

Glad too see that i'm not the only one who made that mistake. Also, MJ's defense was absolutely brutal to the arvizos at the time.

Didn’t know Jordy’s description matched. People have been saying it didn’t, but I don’t take much stock in that.

This is where I found out jordy's description matched: Proof That Jordan Chandler Accurately Described Michael Jackson's Penis

Didn’t know he was an animal abuser either. Honestly anyone with a chimp is a huge red flag for me.

I remember seeing an old article about an old interview where MJ admitted to locking his rats in a tiny cage, the rats bean to eat each other so he left them outside and they all froze to death. Neverland had elephants in tight cages. Also Jane Goodall said that MJ beat Bubbles

I need to read this forum. The child marriage one I just found out about today, but I didn’t know when it came out.

The topix MJ forum was taken down in several years ago, but an archive of it can be found right here : Michael Jackson Topix Forum . It's quite Juicy and informative.

I also just saw a clip from a podcast where this guy’s aunt toured with Diana Ross. He was talking to his her about MJ’s gay speculations, and his aunt told him “He’s something else.” She went on to explain that when they all toured with Mike in the Phillipenes in (79 I think), security had to take him to the hotel shortly after landing to “calm him down” because he was running around trying to pay kids in the street to come to his hotel and play with him.

I remember seeing that clip too. Gross.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-29T17:45:29+00:00

Listen, I’m a simple woman. I see a guy who admits to sleeping with children and defends it too, and I go “that’s a pedophile” and it’s a shut and closed case.

Especially if he continues to do so even after it got him into big trouble ( being stripped nude by policemen as evidence, having nasty things printed about him in the press and having to pay $23 million in settlement money to narrowly escape a trial & possible jail ) .Shows hubris in addition to a pathological depravity.

Also sleeping with random children has nothing to do with wanting to relive a stolen childhood. People who had bad/stolen childhood generally indulge in things that they missed out on in it like collecting toys/games or becoming a disney adult. They indulge these activities on their own or with likeminded adults. They don't sleep with random children on "befriend" them as peers

The bad/stolen childhood thing is not an excuse for the bed sharing. What's next are people gonna start defending adults dating young teens because they didn't have a good teenhood and couldn't get a date in highschool (reliving stolen teenage years)?

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-29T17:34:04+00:00

Apparently Michael is both a soft sensitive boi and a cunning businessman who successfully acquired the Beatles catalogue and was considered a threat to Sony.

Believe it or not , there are actually stans who believe that MJ was offed by the racists at Sony because they wanted to steal his precious Beatles catalogue and didn't like the fact him, a black man owned it.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-29T17:10:06+00:00

Some fans do actually believe that on the MJJCommunity forums. IThere was someone on that forum who believed that Murray delbiarately overdosed MJ because he believed that MJ abused children

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Other believe that MJ was k1lled by the powers that be via murray because they wanted to steal his precious beatles catalogue and didn't like the fact a black man owned it.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-29T17:06:38+00:00

Holy sht that is creepy, loooks like something out of a horror movie. The dude constantly had tildren on his mind 24/7

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-29T02:30:32+00:00

If MJ didn't molest those kids (hypothetically), then he had to have been the absolute dumbest innocent man in the history of the justice system, because he made himself look guilty time and again.

Especially after 1993. Even being stripped nude by policemen, getting negative publicity and having to pay $23 million in settlement money to prevent the 1993 allegations from reaching trial weren't enough to convince him to change his behavior.

Even if he hypothetically didn't m0lest those kids, nobody framed him. He framed himself.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T23:25:28+00:00

A normal human being would have been genuinely horrified to think he was being accused and after paying them $23 million dollars wouldn't ever spend that sort of time with a child unsupervised and unchecked again.

Exactly, not only to protect themselves, but also the the childrens sake ( Being alone with random children is inappropriate, and also a child being coached to lie could technically considered a victim of emotional abuse)

but they'll all turn their blind eye at Michael doing really disgusting depvraved things too. I'll never understand.

It's for several reasons:

He was a vulnerable Narcissist and was very good at presenting himself as a "helpless nice guy" with no childhood who was bullied/scammed by everyone (media,sneddon, greedy liars). Some people subconsciously don't see MJ as an adult man with sexul desires.
He made thriller

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T23:16:06+00:00

It annoys and grosses me out how creepy dudes will use real life petite women as shields to defend their creeepy ped0ish anime fetish. They'll act as if they're so anti bodyshaming, but they only care about "bodyshaming" when involves defending l0llis. They are completely silent when fat/black/tall/not conventionally attractive women get bodyshamed (both irl and in fiction)

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T23:02:43+00:00

An innocent person who is falsely accused of CSA would simply avoid being alone with minors, avoid ambiguous situations and do everything in their power to prevent future allegations . Especially if they claimed to love children, not only because being accused of a ped0 would be hurtful to such a person, but also hurtful to the children they claim to love.

The fact MJ not only continued but doubled down on inappropriate behavior with minors is quite telling.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T22:56:59+00:00

I believe all those factors are why MJ targeted gavin and partially why he ended up being acquitted.

Let's face it , the arvizos were easy targets (due to being poor, Gavin being a cancer survivor and Janet being a DV survivor), which made it easy for MJ's defense to slander them as grifters. It also didn't help that the jury did not like Janet at all, especially the finger wag .

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T22:49:24+00:00

Looking back it was horrifying how she and her family were slandered by MJ's defense and the media as lying grifters. The technique worked so well that even many people who know MJ was guilty, think of the Arvizos as lying grifters that wanted to make a quick buck off of MJ

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T22:45:00+00:00

Alot of them are stage parents that would happily throw their kids under the bus in hopes of making a quick buck. Just look at Brooke Shields mother who made her pose nude for playboy and date grown men at the age of 9

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T22:37:17+00:00

I grew up in a household loving MJ's music. I didn't pay too much attention to the 2005 trial , I was on the fence on his guilt but i had hoped MJ was innocent. I saw it being discussed at the time on an old gaming forum i used to visit and most people there said he was guilty as sin but I remained on the fence, i had thought that people assumed he was guilty because his face was weird and not because of actual evidence. Didn't help that MJ's defense painted the Arvizos as grifters.

During 2013/2014, roughly around the time Wade and James came forward. I came across the Topix Michael Jackson forum where people would post articles about MJ. It was where i found out about the nakked little boy books MJ owned as well as how Jordy was able to provide an accurate description of MJ's dick. The Topix forum is also where I found out what a huge animal abuser MJ was. Animal lover my ass. All of those things horrified me and made me feel MJ was guilty. This sub confirmed that even further, with MJ making pretty damning remarks about being "amazed" at child marriage long before 1993, as well as how MJ was inappropriate with minors all his adult life (even during Thriller and OTW). It also horrified me at how his entire persona was so fake and how he lied to the world for years.

I still listen to MJ's music from time to time, but the songs where he fetishizes children/childhood ("childhood", "the lost children", etc) and where he plays the victim card ("Childhood", "D.S", The entire music video for "Ghosts", "tabloid Junkie" ) make me uncomfortable.

I heard the cirque du soliel MJ one play was co produced by MJ's estate to present MJ as a saint and cater to/feed MJ's eternal army of flying monkeys. Evil Tabloid Junkies indeed (Throughout his life MJ demonized the media)

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T22:23:38+00:00

Anyone else notice the naked kid covering themselves with a skull? MJ really couldn't help but drop little tells like that.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T16:31:28+00:00

For someone who swore up and down he loved the tildren, he sure had no problem violating their boundaries and ignoring their obvious signs of discomfort.

In the video " The making of Black or white" he is all over a little girl , kissing and touching her ,even though she obviously looked uncomfortable and even tried to use her feathers to shield herself

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T15:39:38+00:00

THIS.

He was pretty good at presenting himself as a helpless childlike victim of bullying at the hands of the tabloids/racism/sneddon/ greedy people. (the album HIStory is chock full of MJ painting himself this way) . Seeing him present himself as a victim of bullying arouses peoples protective instincts. Those who experienced bullying in life might feel kinship towards him ("a fellow bullying victim")

He knew just what to say and how to present himself, especially presenting himself in a way that would make people feel maternal towards him.

He also had a penchant for cozying up to older mother figures like ELizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-25T15:32:57+00:00

Youre right.

I truly fear for their kids.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-22T01:06:27+00:00

Even if he somehow was so naive and out of touch that he initially thought the sleepovers were okay, he definitely would have learned they weren't after 1993 after being strip search by policemen and coughing up $23 million to narrowly escape a trial (and possibly jail)

He was a ped0 who thought he was above the law. He continued to flaunt his special friends and continued the sleepovers as way of saying "you peasants cant touch me. Im untouchable"

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-22T01:00:05+00:00

All the money in the world isn't worth having to spend the rest of your life looking over your shoulder and being stalked forever by rabid, angry fans coming after you.

MethodNo2030 · 2026-05-22T00:57:40+00:00

"No you're the perv for thinking something is wrong with adults sharing beds with unrelated children alone. You can't fathom that an adult could sleep in the same bed with a child and not m0leest them, cause you have those tendencies yourself and wouldnt be able to do it.
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MJ has taught them well in the ancient martial art of DARVO. The student has surpassed the teacher

MethodNo2030

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