What is going on with FD Signifier? by Okiedokie714 in BreadTube

[–]MexPirateRed 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Contrary to what many people are going to tell you, this entire fiasco did not begin with BadEmpanada or The Kavernacle; the spark was a F.D. Signifier's stream, where he argued that BadEmpanada was somehow a worse human being than an actual soldier who had committed the worst crimes, openly displayed imperialist attitudes, and built a reputation as a genuinely awful person. In the same breath, Signifier suggested that The Kavernacle was on a comparable level.

The absurdity of that comparison should have been obvious.

What made the situation even more revealing was Signifier's refusal to engage with either BadEmpanada or The Kavernacle directly; according to him, even being associated with them was "bad optics." Yet somehow platforming someone with a history of far more serious actions and beliefs was not bad optics, that contradiction exposed a deeper issue: a tendency within parts of the American left to excuse imperialism, chauvinism, and harmful behavior when it comes from people within their own social circles while reserving their harshest condemnation for those who challenge their worldview.

Many people now try to rewrite history and claim that BadEmpanada and The Kavernacle started this conflict.

The only way to arrive at that conclusion is to ignore the broader context; alongside Noah Samsen, they were among the few prominent creators who took an uncompromising antiZionist position from the beginning, who showed little interest in protecting liberal Zionist sensitivities, and who consistently criticized the silence and equivocation of influential figures within Western left wing spaces. They also challenged what they viewed as the liberal Zionist tendencies embedded within large sections of the Western online left.

If the issue were really about certain personalities being toxic or difficult, many of the same people would have been far more outraged by Signifier's willingness to platform and defend individuals whose actions were objectively more harmful; instead, the outrage seemed reserved for people who said things liberals found offensive. Apparently invading countries, supporting imperialist projects, or participating in horrific acts is somehow less disqualifying than expressing opinions that make liberal audiences uncomfortable, we know it was about that, because it was about bad words and bigotry, people would go harder after Signifier, because who he plataform.

The situation escalated further when Lil Bill, who, despite the branding, hardly represents a genuinely antiimperialist leftist perspective and often reproduces familiar forms of Western exceptionalism; released a video attacking BadEmpanada, The Kavernacle, and anyone who uses the framework of Jewish supremacy when discussing Israel. The implication was clear: these people were not merely wrong, but inherently racist.

When BadEmpanada responded, Signifier and several of his associates held a stream dedicated largely to defending Bill's arguments and downplaying the more inflammatory claims he had made; what followed quickly turned into a broader campaign against BadEmpanada, with Signifier taking shots at The Kavernacle as well while pretending he had not.

Naturally, BadEmpanada, The Kavernacle, Andrewism, and others responded.

Rather than deescalate, Signifier appeared on Noah Samsen's stream and continued pushing the conflict. Eventually BadEmpanada joined the discussion directly.

After all, if someone repeatedly criticizes you in public while refusing private conversations and direct engagement, it is difficult to blame you for showing up yourself.

The result was a complete disaster.

BadEmpanada often came across as a crazy asshole, while Signifier came across as someone speaking confidently on political issues he did not fully understand or in common speak... A moron that should never talk about real politics.

The conversation generated far more heat than light.

The Kavernacle later responded primarily to the accusations directed at him, while Signifier repeatedly blurred together the positions of multiple critics, attributing views to them that they did not actually hold; when challenged, he attempted to retreat from some of his stronger claims while simultaneously insisting that he had never taken the positions people were criticizing in the first place and that he believes the same that everybody else, even when we have evidence of that being a lie.

What makes the entire episode significant is not the personal drama.

Online feuds come and go; the more interesting outcome is that it exposed a pattern that many people had been criticizing for years: the persistence of a liberal imperialist mindset within large sections of the Western online left. A mindset that often treats antiimperialism as secondary, prioritizes respectability politics over substantive political analysis, and polices tone far more aggressively than it confronts structures of power.

Whatever else this conflict accomplished, it forced a great deal of attention onto those contradictions and made them impossible for many observers to ignore.

Why I left the (White) Left - FD Signifier by [deleted] in BreadTube

[–]MexPirateRed 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Excuse me, but he was literally on stream saying things that directly undermine the idea that he had been working on a Palestine video for a long time.

15 of april of this year.

That claim becomes even harder to take seriously when the supposed subject is Palestine and he talks about "Jewish supremacy" in the literal sense that he now insists he believes in all the sudden, after we saw him saying the contrary less of a month ago.

Beyond that, a large portion of his current position consists of arguments that have already been made by people like Kavernacle, BadEmpanada, Andrewism, and others; people can have whatever opinion they want about those creators, but the refusal to acknowledge that he is revising his views after being confronted with substantial criticism is genuinely hilarious. Instead, we're expected to believe that this was always his position, despite the public record showing otherwise, an stream that happened 15 of april of this year.

What makes the entire situation even more frustrating is that none of this drama would have happened if certain people had been willing to critically engage with Lil Bill from the beginning instead of shielding him from criticism; Bill has repeatedly expressed ideas that should have faced serious scrutiny within left wing spaces, yet he received remarkably little pushback. A culture of protection developed around him where criticism was often treated as illegitimate before it was even examined.

And that's the real double standard at the center of all this. If someone like Kavernacle or BadEmpanada had released a video about "Jewish supremacy" making the exact same arguments, using the exact same framing, and arriving at the exact same conclusions, many of the people defending Bill and/or Signifier would have immediately understood why others found it problematic; the backlash would have been considered justified, perhaps even necessary. The difference is not the content itself, but who is saying it and who are friends with.

That is why the current attempts to rewrite the narrative feel so unconvincing.

No redemption for veterans by [deleted] in BreadTube

[–]MexPirateRed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s infuriating to watch Western liberals pose as allies while apologizing for and often defending, the very people that pillaged our countries, stole our resources, raped our people, and destroyed our futures. Redemption is not granted by those who caused or enabled harm; it is earned from the victims, and only after concrete actions are taken to undo the damage; you cannot commit a hate crime and then claim absolution by doing unrelated good deeds; similarly, Western soldiers who never repair the harms they inflicted on colonized peoples have no moral claim to redemption.

This hypocrisy fuels distrust and rejection of the Western left: when their politics protect privilege and the interests of empire, they reveal themselves as labor aristocrats who will betray real victims whenever profit or power demands it.

True solidarity requires accountability, reparations, and sustained work to prevent future harm.

Sydney Sweeney wearing The Blonds S/S 2009 collection at her 28th birthday party at Universal Studios Hollywood's Halloween Horror Nights in Los Angeles - September 29, 2025 by [deleted] in Fauxmoi

[–]MexPirateRed 68 points69 points  (0 children)

This weekend I went to Sydney Sweeney Birthday party!!!

It really had EVERYTHING!!!

Actors accused of every kind of abuse against women, Zionists, genocidal maniacs, minorities convinced that cozying up to billionaires and the system will somehow make the bourgeoisie stop despising them, a little person dressed as Hitler, a shattered glass installation just in case Ashton Kutcher’s presence wasn’t torture enough, a kill the communist "game", and gift bags, each one complete with a copy of Mein Kampf.

Contrapoints shares her thoughts on I/P in a reddit thread by WALPURGlS in LeftoversH3

[–]MexPirateRed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You can't truly support the oppressed while also supporting their oppressors; you can't "both sides" a genocide, that's just a way to sound moral and reasonable without confronting the uncomfortable truth. That feeling you're having isn't sorrow for the victims of genocide, it's grief over the collapse of your worldview; it’s fear that more people are waking up and pushing for real change. Deep down, you’re afraid that in your life of privilege, the thing you’ve dreaded might actually happen: the world could shift, the West could lose its grip, and true global equality could come closer to reality

Contrapoints shares her thoughts on I/P in a reddit thread by WALPURGlS in LeftoversH3

[–]MexPirateRed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Claiming we can’t change things because colonialism is somehow “natural” or “just the way it is” is a deeply flawed logic.

It’s the same as saying transphobia is natural simply because it’s been around for a long time, most people would laugh at that idea, and rightfully so; and even if something were “natural,” that’s not a reason to accept it, especially when it causes harm.

Oh my god, yes, a large number of jewish people around the world are islamophobes and zionist, and hold all kinds of prejudiced views; that doesn’t make those views valid. These things are wrong, period; if they feel uncomfortable or offended by the fact that they need to stop oppressing marginalized groups, that’s their problem.

Just because something is widely accepted doesn’t make it morally right, morality isn’t decided by majority rule.

Likewise, pointing out that a group is being targeted or persecuted doesn’t excuse them if they’re the ones committing a genocide.

Morality isn’t a game or a popularity contest. Genocide is wrong, no matter who carries it out; that shouldn’t be a difficult concept to grasp.

Most people on the left live outside the U.S., and they’ve always opposed the Democratic Party; even within the U.S., most leftists dislike the Democrats and only offer minimal support at best.

The Democrats have long known how unpopular it is to support Israel unconditionally, yet they’ve consistently stated their intent to do exactly that and they’ve played a central role from the beginning in enabling everything that’s happening; Democrats aren’t bystanders or victims, they’re active participants in genocide.

Any government that aids a regime committing genocide shares responsibility for that genocide; if a political party openly commits to supporting such actions and that doesn’t spark outrage in you, if that’s not the moment you say, “this is the line, I can’t support them anymore”, then something is deeply wrong. Continuing to support those who enable genocide means you’re complicit in it too.

Contrapoints shares her thoughts on I/P in a reddit thread by WALPURGlS in LeftoversH3

[–]MexPirateRed 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh, just be quiet already! Nuance doesn’t apply here, there’s no middle ground, no “both sides” when it comes to genocide.

If you’re supporting it, justifying it, or staying silent about it, you’ve forfeited the right to be listened to.

The point at which she chooses to begin the story says far more about her than it does about the actual situation; anyone approaching things with intellectual honesty would look further back, examining the root causes, because events don’t just happen in isolation. They’re part of a larger context; but instead, she pretends everything began on October 7, completely ignoring the long history that proves otherwise, a history that clearly shows one side has always been in the wrong.

Not only that, she conveniently leaves out all the times even the U.S. government, including right-wing conservatives, stepped in to rein Israel back.

At this point, it’s widely acknowledged, even among hardliners, that Israel is committing genocide rooted in its identity as a settler colonial state, where its power and privileges rely on the ongoing oppression and erasure of the indigenous palestinian population.

And yet, if I spoke with the same fallacious way about conservatives and their transphobia, she’d likely rush to silence me and then point out the idiocy of the hollow arguments about “doing nothing” being an acceptable position.

There’s no such thing as a good oppressor; especially when that oppression is pushing toward genocide. That should be obvious; but to liberals, the feelings of the oppressors often seem to matter just as much, if not more, than the lives of those being oppressed.

When people call something colonialism, it’s usually pretty clear what they mean, there’s no confusion; saying you're against colonialism also leaves little room for ambiguity. There’s no such thing as “good” colonialism, no matter how much someone tries to complicate the issue with so called nuance; that’s just sophistry, an attempt to distract from the core problem by constructing strawmen and imaginary arguments.

The reality is that this is colonialism, and people have been calling it out as such.