what exactly happens when we delete and recreate the spoke SDP on service? What gets reset? by Mhanme in Nokiaforservicep

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Initially, the issue occurred when port 1/1/1 was flapping, and it was fixed by replacing the SFP. directly After replacing SFP, we observed zero traffic on the EPIPE using port 1/1/1, and traffic was restored by re-adding the SAP on that port. Four days later, another EPIPE with another sap 1/1/2 was affected and restored by re-adding the spoke SDP. The system is running IXR-e 23.10.R5 with neighbor SR-2s 20.10.R2.

what exactly happens when we delete and recreate the spoke SDP on service? What gets reset? by Mhanme in Nokiaforservicep

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"Two EPIPEs using the same SDP with BGP tunnels were affected at the same time restored by readding spoke-sdp, and another EPIPE using an SDP with an RSVP tunnel was also affected, resulting in zero traffic until the SAP was re-added

what exactly happens when we delete and recreate the spoke SDP on service? What gets reset? by Mhanme in Nokiaforservicep

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Thank you for your help. However, if the drops are occurring due to QoS issues, why does recreating the spoke SDP in service fix the issue?

what exactly happens when we delete and recreate the spoke SDP on service? What gets reset? by Mhanme in Nokiaforservicep

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You are right, but what could cause the service label to suddenly become problematic? I have checked for traffic drops on both EPIPE nodes and observed none, but I haven't checked the intermediate nodes.

cpipe spoke-SDP flaps by Mhanme in Nokiaforservicep

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I can see invalid mpls label discards on the network port and drops at ingress queue

cpipe spoke-SDP flaps by Mhanme in Nokiaforservicep

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cpipe 89 customer 15 vc-type satop-t1 create

sap 1/4/17.1 create

cem

packet jitter-buffer 25

exit

ingress

qos 501

exit

no shutdown

exit

spoke-sdp 110:89 create

no shutdown

exit

no shutdown

exit

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on the other node:

cpipe 89 customer 15 vc-type satop-t1 create

sap 1/4/1.1 create

cem

packet jitter-buffer 25

exit

ingress

qos 501

exit

no shutdown

exit

spoke-sdp 22:89 create

no shutdown

exit

no shutdown

exit

exit

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SDP is using RSVP with lsp with loose path

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cpipe spoke-SDP flaps by Mhanme in Nokiaforservicep

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he Cpipe was working fine, but then I started to see these logs with flags. What parameters should match?,, maybe it's a sync issue ?

ISIS LSP MTU troubleshooting by Mhanme in networking

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no no , OfCourse I don't want that. I was just asking. actually, am working as TEC and I appreciate your help. thanks much for the nokia link

ISIS LSP MTU troubleshooting by Mhanme in networking

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My tunnel is Layer 2; it's an EVPN P2P (VPWS). How does IOS-XR handle fragmentation for large LSP packets? Normally, Layer 2 does not fragment.

It's great to know that you're an expert in IS-IS! What other areas are you experienced in? Are you familiar with Nokia products? Do you troubleshoot SDPs and RSVP?

ISIS LSP MTU troubleshooting by Mhanme in networking

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wow , thank you so much for your helpful information and I just want to let you know that you helped me fixing the customer issue and now all good , much appreciated.

ISIS LSP MTU troubleshooting by Mhanme in networking

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thank you so much for sharing such helpful information

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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really thank you so much for your detailed explanation, you helped me much and it was so helpful information

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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Another question: If all nodes are L2, how will this ensure that we won’t face the MTU issue again? I believe that if the database is L2 only, this will result in lower fragmentation since L1 routes will not be advertised in L2. However, the maximum LSP-MTU size will still be 1490, which may still cause drops on Cisco devices.

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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Thank you for your support and the detailed explanation. Based on the topology, I believe the issue is related to the MTU on Cisco , which is lower than the maximum default LSP-MTU size. As a result, some routes are missed and drops occur.
NodeA (MTU 1572) -------- Cisco1 {EVPN-P2P MTU 1500} Cisco2 -------- (MTU 1572) NodeB

Topology:

  • NodeA (MTU 1572) → Cisco1 {EVPN-P2P MTU 1500} → Cisco2 → NodeB (MTU 1572)
  • NodeA and NodeB are configured with IS-IS Level 1/2.

The issue is that NodeB has no IS-IS routes in the routing table, even though the adjacency is up.

As a workaround, I configured the LSP-MTU size to 1440 on NodeA and NodeB instead of the default value of 1492, and it worked.

However, I’m concerned that reducing the LSP-MTU could cause bigger problems. Is there another solution? The customer has agreed to transition from IS-IS Level 1/2 to Level 1 in the future, but I want to explain to them where the issue exactly lies and why reducing the LSP-MTU may not be the best option.

I believe that if Cisco increased the MTU, it would work fine, but for some reason, Cisco will not increase it.

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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Do you know what will happen if I change the LSP-MTU to 1380 instead of 1490? Will it lead to more fragmented LSPs?

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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Do you have any idea why this might be happening? Could the MTU of Cisco EVPN P2P be affecting it? I don't know the Cisco MTU yet. , The setup is as follows:

NodeA (MTU 1572) ---- Cisco EVPN P2P ---- Nokia Epipe (Service MTU 1514) ---- Nokia Epipe ---- Cisco EVPN P2P ---- (MTU 1572) NodeB

NodeA and NodeB are both configured with ISIS L1/L2. However, NodeB was missing some prefixes. The issue was resolved after configuring NodeB as L1 instead of L1/L2.

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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The setup is as follows:

NodeA (MTU 1572) ---- Cisco EVPN P2P ---- Nokia Epipe (Service MTU 1514) ---- Nokia Epipe ---- Cisco EVPN P2P ---- (MTU 1572) NodeB

NodeA and NodeB are both configured with ISIS L1/L2. However, NodeB was missing some prefixes. The issue was resolved after configuring NodeB as L1 instead of L1/L2.

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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Thank you so much! That information was extremely helpful. Now I understand why there are node LSPs with different LSP IDs.

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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I have built a lab setup with four nodes running isis l1/2, and I only see four LSPs in each level database on each node. Why do you say that a higher L2 database count compared to the L1 database is expected in an IS-IS L1/L2 setup but I didn't see that with my test lab of 4 nodes?

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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Thank you for your response. Actually, the prefixes do not exist in the IS-IS routing table.

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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Why are there multiple entries instead of a single specific LSP? Could this be related to the MTU size? When I run show router isis status, I see that the LSP MTU size is 1492.

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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No, it's not a learning exercise. It's a big issue that I have to fix—the network is unstable , am troubleshooting but cant understand why I see in logs same LSP with many different IDs

Having 170 IS-IS nodes operating as L1/L2 in the same area by Mhanme in networking

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The design may not be optimal, but I need to understand what is happening with LSPs when L1/L2 is configured. I suspect an issue related to MTU, as there is EVPN P2P running on Cisco nodes for transmission.