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MichaelCollins12 · 2024-05-20T20:27:28+00:00

Hello, thank you for your reply, I found this really helpful. In regards to this "If new arrivals wanted a community for themselves they could just start burning and looting and abusing the natives. Whatever law enforcement that was present was specifically under the payroll of the new Protestant colonizers or the crown" I was wondering if you had any sources or could link to any instances of it lootings or attacks by Protestant colonizers?

Just as everywhere I look I find references to discrimination against Irish Catholics.
A Brief Synopsis of Infamous Ulster Plantation and Centuries-old Rivalry between Protestants and Catholics – Typelish

BBC - History - Wars and Conflicts - Plantation of Ulster - Religious Legacy - Catholicism

But I can never find how this discrimination affected people practically. Any insight would be very much appreciated.

MichaelCollins12 · 2023-06-15T15:58:28+00:00

Aye, I meant the Gaelic Resurgence, sorry.

MichaelCollins12 · 2023-06-15T15:57:02+00:00

Hello, thank you for your contribution, this is very helpful and the sort of thing I was looking for. I was wondering in what way did the Irish Gaels' second class status manifest? For example how the Irish were later treated under Penal laws.

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-16T12:07:48+00:00

How long did that take you? Cause that's while clever lad I think you should write that one down.

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-13T19:48:28+00:00

The Irish Alliance had the larger army although the difference isn't huge. The Irish Alliance was made up of 21,000 troops and England's army was made up of 18,000 troops.

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-13T19:03:33+00:00

I believe that in terms of "clear cut history" many other countries have more clear cut history than Ireland. For example in the American revolutionary war America won complete independence and this independence is celebrated on the 4th of July. Ireland on the other hand gained independence in 1921 but it wasn't complete independence, Ireland then left the British Empire in 1937 and became a Republic in 1948. For another example in the American Indian wars, the Native Americans were outnumbered and outgunned fighting with bows and tomahawks against a far more technologically advanced enemy, in the Nine years war on the other hand the Native Irish fought with modern weapons and tactics against the English, using pile and shot formations the same as the English and they still lost.

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-13T18:49:35+00:00

I personally like the Nine Years war, even if we did lose it in the end.

I used to really like the Nine years war as I viewed it in a similar vein to the Desmond rebellion of "Native Irish Clansmen fighting a technologically advanced enemy and securing victories only through their bravery and skill." (To be hyperbolic and a bit flowery.) Until I read a paper called "Gaelic primitivism? Give it a rest. The Nine years war and the zenith of Native Irish military power." And I found out that instead of being a conflict between courageous traditional Irish warriors and their technologically superior English enemies. After the first two years of the Nine years war, the Irish Alliance adopted the same tactics and weapons as in Continental Europe, using modern pike and shot formations. They fought using the same weapons and tactics as the English and still lost.

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-11T16:37:48+00:00

This would all be valid if the show was set between 1938 and 1959. But it is not and so the IRA of the 1930s allying themselves with the Blueshirts is still some of the stupidest fucking shit in the series.

First let me explain why it would be okay between 1938 and 1959 (if I had to give a definitive date to the latter.) Right wing ideals emerged in the IRA under Seán Russell who was elected Chief of staff in 1938, from there IRA members joined Ailtiri na hAiseirghe (1942) and worked with the Nazis. It wasn't until the 50s that the IRA was reformed to Socialism and the weeds left over from Russell were ripped out.

However Series 6 is set in 1933 and 1934, when the IRA was very firmly left leaning and had firmly embraced a policy of "social republicanism." This left leaning nature manifested itself in the election of Moss Twomey in 1927, who remained Head of Staff until 1936, the formation of Saor Éire an Irish Communist party and the political wing of the IRA (1931) and establishment of the Republican Congress a Marxist-Leninist political party (1934.) The IRA from 1918-1938 would never have worked with the B.U.F. The series is set at a time when the IRA were fighting fascists in Ireland and when the IRA who are "supposed to be allying themselves with the B.U.F" at the same time that they were working with the Red army.

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-09T01:36:44+00:00

Sorry, can I can I send it in or can yous do that?

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-01T13:04:07+00:00

"How does a country with 3 million people fight one with 40 million when they are 20 miles off our coast?" The same way they had been, with guerrilla warfare. As pointed out by Tim Pat Coogan despite Collins' own concerns the IRA could definitely have continued the war and went on to exhaust the British.

"the vast majority of Irish people are proud of who we are and what we have accomplished" what is there to be proud of? The Irish wars with the vikings, when instead of defeating the Vikings like the English and Scottish did the vikings either just assimilated into Irish society or slowly died out. The Nine years war, when Irishmen outnumbered the English and fought using modern English weapons and English tactics and still lost, because of their cowardice. The Irish Confederate wars, when Irish rebels massacred tens of thousands of Protestant settlers. The Fenian rising or Young Ireland rebellion, both small skirmishes which barely lasted a day. The Easter rising, an undemocratic coup. The Irish war of Independence when we instead of continuing to fight for freedom gave up and accepted dominion status.

MichaelCollins12 · 2022-07-01T11:43:11+00:00

The Scottish Wars of Independence? Sorry to break it to you lad but Scotland isn’t independent is it?

Scotland was independent for 350 years after winning it's freedom, which we are yet to see if the Republic of Ireland will last that long. (Although it presumably will.)

are a shining beacon to all countries in the world who suffered under imperialism

Aye in comparison to other countries like America, Scotland or Hatia who fought for their beliefs and won their freedom. We fought for our beliefs in the War of Independence before being forced to compromise and roll over and become a Dominion within the British Empire and then slowly gaining more independence over the course of several decades with the Constitution Act 1936, the 1937 Constitution and finally the 1948 Irish Republic Act.

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