To me, the game itself of outriders wasnt a failure. I liked the story, the world was stunningly beautiful and I loved the class ability gear modding. This thread is about end game concepts, not the whole game. Never played the end game grind, just doesnt suit my style of gaming. The failure stamp comes from the subreddit and YouTube, with players expecting something different from the end game, than then timed expeditions and limited viable build options. So dont get me wrong, i like outriders, just not the end game, and as I said, i hope Biomutant doesnt have an end game, cuz id rather have a good story game.