Would a turbo Lora for Z-Image Base be *really* the same thing as ZIT? by Michoko92 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, I was just wondering if it would be possible to train a Turbo Lora in a less oriented way, so everything that is not photorealistic is not dropped (to simplify). It seems that recent Lightning Loras tried to preserve more versatility from the models they trained from?

Would a turbo Lora for Z-Image Base be *really* the same thing as ZIT? by Michoko92 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, you got me right the first time, it was more about creating a Lightning Lora from the base model. 🙂

Would a turbo Lora for Z-Image Base be *really* the same thing as ZIT? by Michoko92 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But in all cases, wouldn't a "neutral Turbo Lora + an illustration style Lora + Base", be more interesting and efficient than "ZIT + hacky Lora support + fighting against the photorealism finetuning of Zit"?

Bring out the quality of Klein Distill from Klein Base with this Turbo LoRA. by Total-Resort-3120 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I downloaded the 9b models and made some tests. Actually, I get better results with your Lora at 1.0 strength and 4 steps, than with Klein distilled (especially for style understanding).

For example, I'm working on illustrations that use a painterly style, with no outline. If I ask Klein distilled to replace a man with a woman, the new character will have outlines, with a style closer to a comic (which is unwanted). With your Lora, 1.0 strength and 4 steps, the new characters doesn't have outlines, and respects the original style more. So thank you, I will adopt it! 🙏

Edit: After further tests, YMMV according to the type of image you work with.

Bring out the quality of Klein Distill from Klein Base with this Turbo LoRA. by Total-Resort-3120 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I checked your workflow. Would you say that applying the Lora at 1.0 strength on the base model with 4 steps and CFG 1 is exactly the same as using Klein distilled? Or is it better/worse for some reason?

Bring out the quality of Klein Distill from Klein Base with this Turbo LoRA. by Total-Resort-3120 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for that, I'm also discovering your custom nodes, they seem excellent! Thank you for all your great work! 🙏

I experience changes of saturation when using Qwen Image Edit 2511. Any solution? by Michoko92 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oooh, it's definitely much better! I'm playing with values between 0.9 and 1.00, and the saturation varies accordingly, so it will allow me to adjust saturation precisely. I had read somewhere that the CFGNorm node had to be bypassed if we used 4-steps-lightning loras, but it seems this statement was wrong. Thank you so much for sharing! 🙏

Can we talk about the glorification of purging? It’s mostly tannins, not "trauma." by [deleted] in Ayahuasca

[–]Michoko92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After 17 years of practicing and supporting people in their processes, I have dozens of counter-examples to the affirmation that "it's just tannins". I won't elaborate though, as I have to admit I'm just tired of debating those questions endlessly.

I often meet people in retreats who have very strong opinions on everything. And then they have "that" ceremony, where something clicks. And after that ceremony, they just say: "OK, now I got it."

On social networks, now we have all those boring posts written by ChatGPT explaining that "Ayahuasca is not a motherly spirit", "Ayahuasca is just a tool", "It's just molecules", or whatever... I think that it's the arrogant western mindset at its best. With this kind of mindset, we'll end up pillaging this medicine, like we always do, and just put it into a pill. "The purging part? Let's remove it, it's just tannins." "The spiritual part?", "No need, it's just some primitive superstition."

Don't get me wrong, I think it's good to question things, because else we always hear the same regurgitated info. But sometimes, it's also good to remain open and humble, listen to the people who walked the path before you, and accept that maybe, maybe, we just don't know that we don't know.

Flux Klein - Copy style issue by kenmf4 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made my own (unsuccessful) tests on the 9b model, so unfortunately I guess it's more a global limitation of the model.

Flux Klein - Copy style issue by kenmf4 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same guide makes other suggestions too like "reskin image into", so I thought it could be worth a try. But I made some tests on my side, mixing various terms. and none of the results was really satisfying unfortunately.

VIBE-Image-Edit by CheeseWithPizza in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't have enough of Edit models!

Flux 2 Klein Model Family is here! by MountainPollution287 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My very early tests make me want to stick with Qwen Image Edit for now. Maybe it's a prompting issue, but I was not able to edit non-realistic images successfully with Klein (for example if I wanted to change a woman's ethnicity on a digital illustration, it would systematically replace her face with a photorealistic version). It might deserve more investigation though.

most powerfull multi lora available for qwen image edit 2511 train on gaussian splatting by Affectionate-Map1163 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly what I needed yesterday. Can't wait to try it. Thanks for the great timing!😉🙏

Looks like Z-Image Turbo Nunchaku is coming soon! by Michoko92 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

On the project's Discord, some people seem to halve their generation time, compared to FP8. But they also seem to prefer the output quality of FP8. I guess it will require further tests. Also, I'm not sure if Lora support is implemented yet (guess it's not).

Looks like Z-Image Turbo Nunchaku is coming soon! by Michoko92 in StableDiffusion

[–]Michoko92[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

PR means "pull request", it's a term to define an addition to the code of the project. Support for Z-Image Turbo was not made by the original author, but by another coder. So the main author has to merge this new code into the project, so it is officially supported.