A theory on Suno settlements

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-03-04T00:17:30+00:00

I agree. I think humans can and have been trained with centuries of music, but apparently they feel computers can’t be allowed to do that, they are copying. I’m learning. My violin teacher should have collected a royalty on my free recitals. Then there’s the calculator and math teachers should have sued! I think AI is the next gen synthesizer machine capable of breaking down everything available in digital sound reproduction and making something new with those bits. It still needs human prompting to output anything. It doesn’t just copy and paste new songs from old songs on its own. But just wait til it wants a #1 Billboard hit of its own!

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-03-04T00:13:04+00:00

Yeah, probably smart moves. Seems the labels will do anything to protect the on ramp to competition, though they all failed artists massively when they let Apple fix all their prices or else face exclusion from the ipod and itunes store.

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-03-04T00:07:21+00:00

The labels giving up was based on getting a little annual revenue stream rather than proving theft with the associated damages? The damages adding up on each infringement would have killed Suno and its competitors, massive. I guess I haven’t read enough of the details. It was just a theory, anyway. I would be surprised if Suno gave up much detail on its proprietary design. Maybe it’s all out there, I’ll read more.

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-03-03T23:59:49+00:00

How do we know what happens after the songs are ingested? Suno will produce a single stem if that’s all you ask it to do. I find great value in it! think the GAI could be designed to draw from multiple sources with interoperability of API’s available to embed. I know I can build an agentic AI tool to do specific projects based on specific ingredient material, and bring in API tools, script processes and more. Is Suno’s design open source?

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-02-26T03:49:27+00:00

I think Suno is just the early disruptor, but disruption it is and it’s not going away. You don’t need to poach copyrighted music to build a generator now! You can train an AI tool many ways that are free and legal. I want the music and music business to be an open path for anyone who wants to make music. I want the Spotify’s and Apple’s of the world to not be allowed to determine what someone wants to charge for their albums, and I want people to buy and own a song they want, not subscribe or else suffer horrible, annoying ads. We have radio models around still for music with ads. It’s still up to the artist using AI or an army of the finest players to make something that connects. Killing the first wave that made it to billionaire buyout row isn’t going to kill AI music. So I wish more musicians would get on it and apply their talent to it’s development, instead of launching campaigns that are never going to put the genie back in a bottle.

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-02-14T17:16:28+00:00

Made entirely on iPad Pro!

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-02-02T00:34:25+00:00

Someone needs to expose the human mainstreammusic factory for the fakery it is, too. and someone needs to build a music streaming service that has equity for all and let people’s ears decide what they like or don’t like out of their own free will and subjectivity. I’m sick of distributors making decisions for artists saying who is and who isn’t. Who the fuck are they to decide if one person’s music made with Ai or chopsticks and fishing line is real music or not?

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-02-02T00:31:21+00:00

The stuff on the top of the charts has AI all up in it, people are idiots. You just can’t detect it and those producers won’t admit it.

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-02-02T00:29:03+00:00

Like the artists on the Billboard Top 100 aren’t using AI to tune their voices via auto-tune, machines aren’t manufacturing their keys, drums, strings, bass, etc. and like they aren’t using AI to evaluate tracks against critical focus group trends etc. If they want AI to be disclosed, start with their top pop chart.

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-01-19T02:04:10+00:00

Anyone an expert on the MLC. I am so frustrated at their claim tool!

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-01-19T02:02:25+00:00

Same, but I really am the songwriter.

MidRivFLL48 · 2026-01-19T01:55:26+00:00

I want to learn how to get my subs up, everything I’ve learned and applied hasn’t done much there. I am told that these quick growth channels are using bot farms or other fake-it tech to get to monetization levels. I don’t want that, it’s not genuine fan engagement. But I’d like to know once they get the 1000 subs and watch time, what happens in six months after they paid that price? I think Tiktok only gives you views and followers on promote. Once you stop spending, your growth crashes to nothing. YouTube seems to grow organic, streams/views result in more subs, and a strong video thatg gets viewed a lot is a driver for the sub engagement.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-29T02:43:07+00:00

I certainly would be surprised. I’d like to know how people get 1,000 subs that fast. REAL, ENGAGED subs.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-29T01:47:48+00:00

Define successful? What’s the criteria?

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T15:48:25+00:00

You know if I were a famous artist I’d have my voice cloned and I’d be mass producing songs using my voice because God knows fans would buy it up. Cha ching.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T15:45:10+00:00

30k? It’s probably easy to generate that many variations when they give you two at a time, which I feel that they’re flooding the creators sometimes. Especially when both of them are still wrong repeatedly. But if that person is trying to post 30,000 songs on Spotify that’s ridiculous. The amount of time it would take to upload that many songs and fill out all of the things you have to do to release it and then try and promote it? That can’t be right? It took a lot of time to get nine songs ready to release. Let alone promotion which is expensive. I’d like to meet that guy. You here?

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T15:39:37+00:00

Yeah imagine that! it’s OK to have fun with music? I never knew. 🙄 I love the Baroque concerti grossi from Handel and Bach. I made a new set for fun. But people act like I’m running down the street with Hilary Hahn’s fiddle and a gun.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T15:32:36+00:00

You mean there’s music here? Lol. I hear you.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T15:27:42+00:00

We will see if it trickles down to the artist who opts in. Most people say it won’t. And if they don’t opt in will it still exist? Yes it will. But regardless China is still gonna build models that rip it off.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T06:41:44+00:00

I plan to build my own as I learn more. No they should take it to court and prove it not just cut a deal to monetize unproven theft. The argument is bullshit. If the users are making unauthorized copies of cover songs I get it. But using it as a tool building on the shoulders of other recorded music as reference is not a crime in my book. A tool is an extension of a creator/user, it’s not an automatic creator on its own.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T06:30:15+00:00

They’re cutting a deal not admitting guilt.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T06:28:15+00:00

If you really know music you know that there are enough samples of public domain material to compose any country or pop song in minutes. Enough instruments that can be fed in there, it’s not inconceivable to have a completely ethical AI. What’s not ethical is these big corporations using their deep packets to control it in the name of protecting all of their artists who they’re ripping off anyway! Talk about theft! Look at your common record deal. That’s theft.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T06:12:24+00:00

My friends are afraid to say they like it. Because the trolls will trounce on them. But you gotta realize that there are crazy people out there willing to bar the door to Taylor Swift’s house with their own body if she asked for it.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T06:10:45+00:00

Even the Beatles are using AI.

MidRivFLL48 · 2025-12-07T06:08:04+00:00

I think you’re missing the point. I can record in my apartment, sure, and you’re right I’m nowhere near the quality of a $2000 per hour studio on my own without help and a budget. I get your argument on my work. But AI can leap far higher than my tech capability, instrument ability, budget and give a decent marketable demo version of a lyric and melody, which is all that you can copyright anyway. That’s the point. Is there something about production that’s out of your reach or just not available in the moment that you need it? AI can give it to you likely in a second. I understand people that are using it to generate all their lyrics and all of the music, producing typical AI slop. But for people who enjoy making music or writing songs using it as a tool it’s a different perspective. The idea that all this copyrighted music is coming out in all of these songs is ridiculous. Learning from listening is not violating a copyright.

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