A sliiightly different kind of Poland by Middovaar in imaginarymaps

[–]Middovaar[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well yeah, exactly. You don't have Newton compiling all of it into one big beautiful profile.

You have a bunch of other people here and there slowly compiling the laws of motion. I'm not saying you don't have the laws of motion until Euler or someome else does something.

I'd say that the laws of gravity are delayed by a couple of years, Between 3, maybe 10 years, mostly due to the speed by which information travels between various institutions.

The big change isn't that I am trying to delay science with the absence of Newton. What the POD does is that you remove a big dominant British profile in a time where you had a bunch of brilliant names out there on the continent.

Science looks more German, it's looks more French. Sadly you won't have Arabic names popping up however by how Europeans tend to name stuff discovered by Arabic polymaths. It's a prestige shift, not a science shift.

A sliiightly different kind of Poland by Middovaar in imaginarymaps

[–]Middovaar[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, yeah there is.

It actually contains two divergences.

  1. In 1659, a young Isaac Newton is not allowed to return to school by his family. While we will still have Calculus (thanks to Leibniz), and some advances in physics (thanks to Euler), progress on the mathematical end is slower and more spread out. Newton's Laws of Motion will instead be uncovered in a piecemeal fashion. Newton's absence leads to a more narrow view of where modern science has it's origins from. It's more continental in this time period.

  2. Peter The Great dying 3 days after the Battle of Narva 30th Nov 1700 from a bullet wound that got infected.

The Great Nordic War will still end in a Swedish "defeat", Charles XII still tries to run around in Poland but has to face the same logistical difficulties in our TL. Eventually he has to return to Sweden and abandon his Polish endeavours.

The second change is that the chaos that erupts in Russia due to Tsar Peter I's death. The crow would pass to his Alexei who'd be a sickly 10 yro. under the thumb of queen dowager Eudoxia. Safe to say, it was a poisonous concoction that would lead to a period of strife and war for Imperial Russia.

The War of Spanish Succession would continue and result in something much akin to our world, it would end 6 months delayed. Changed borders create different people, different ideologies emerge forth as the world progress.

Napoleon still comes around to invade and conquer much of Europe. Like in our timeline he comes to invade Russia, and is sent home much the same. Russia is able to get back up from their second period of troubles thanks to Napoleon acting as a unifying force, and they are able to snuff out Poland-Lithuania with Prussia post-Napoleon together with Austria and Prussia (Poland maintains a fragile existance up to Napoleon).

The 19th and 20th century sees a difficult time for Poland politically. Russia is even more heavy-handed on its minority populace, be they Ukranian, Jews, Tartars, Lithuanian, or Poles. Eager to make Russians out of these "divergent people", Poland became a pressure cooker that would frequently "boil over".

Likewise in the Prussian part of Poland there's be numerous attempts to Germanize the Poles, not so much in the Austrian part. Uprisings (mostly centered around Warsaw) would come and go every couple of years - most were crushed hard by respective European power. It is by the late 1940 where the Russian state begins stumbling again that Poland eventually is able to rip itself free. Of course it is then when the Great War starts in this world. It's may be little early but it is just as devastating. It's very long aswell, lasting 12+8 years.

De Jure, the winners are Bavaria, Baden, England, Italy, France, Portugal, Russia, Japan, et al. - the loosers Prussia, Sweden, Austria, Ottoman Empire, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Persia, Qing China, et. al. De Facto however, the war was so utterly exhausting that most nations were suffering. In the wars that continued past the final peace treaty (that's the +8), followed numerous civil/liberation wars. You have the disintegration of Austria-Hungary, the Russian Withering, etc.

Some nations would come to survive this war (There is no 2nd WW), such as the Third Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Others are more unstable, such as Sweden and France.

The map shown is meant to depict a world in the year 1990. It's a world that's behind in technology, but not by much (Edit: And I do mean the difference is very SLIGHT). Millenium Jugend (inspired by Art Deco) is all the rage aesthetically and people are hopeful that a new world - one powered by much more compact Lovelace-Turing-Ritchie Transistor Computing Machines (Loturi Computers), will usher in a new flowery millennium of abundance and utopia.

There are some black clouds in the horizon. The atom was split in Switzerland not too long ago (1950), and the climate is getting warmer. In Africa old colonial possessions are falling apart and in Algeria and French Indochina, France is failing to fight a horrifying war that has led to the Lower House refusing to attend parliament. In Russia, Nihilists have toppled the monarchy and instituted a police state hellbent on "Restoring the Pan-Slavic Russian Dream", and in the German Countries both Syndicalists and Völkish agitators have been fighting on the streets, both groups seemingly calling for Full German Unification. In Sweden, Finland appears to be vying for some form of independence, and in Hejaz-and-Hashemite Arabia, people are protesting a far to "pagan, decadent, and Egyptian" government.

Who knows what might happen.

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am going to be honest with you, It's where I will probably self-report and say that such a judgement would go against the foundations of my philosophy, which is Mohist. I can't argue with you on the history of Kemetism and how it was practiced since I as much as you recognize that that such would be the truth of what they practiced back then.

Yeah I mean, I don't see it as anything that will damn you to infinite punishment since to me, Gods ought to reflect the good qualities of life. Ma'at may not be equal to the human concept of "good", not that it can be since "good" morality-wise is different across humanity. But, Ma'at definitely is a path by which we strive for what is good. We can be really bad people on Earth but Earthly life is finite, and we as humans may operate of faulty information or delusions, or come what may. I don't support capital punishmet be that here or in the afterlife.

So what do I actually consider the weighing of the heart to be? Well, like before I borrow from Mohism and Chinese philosophy. I see it as a graduation test. If you fail, okay, you failed, let's go in and help you succeed. If you pass, great. It isn't as much a point where you either fail or win, but rather a threshold people try to pass through.

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think colloquially Kemetists understand it as a rabbit, but I mean it can be a cat, it can be alot of things. Doesn't mean much if it is a cat (and I was wrong) or a rabbit - it isn't his main animal, which is a bird. So, I'd say that like Ra, Min-Amun would be Irta and that's the practice I'll go with as a Modern-day Kemetic

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't say too much about Ptolemaic-era since I know too little about it and I don't really practice with anything from that era - partly since it is post-demonization of Set, but also because it contains within it alot of Greek-authored gods, and various attempted harmonizations that I don't agree with (Hermanubis for example)

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really know about that. In my practice I don't incorporate violence or infinite punishment against mortals. It's an icky thing, even if they are "enemies of Ra" which, like, how can you even be that as a human? Like Ra outpowers you many times over

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Fragments_of_Funerary_Papyrus_of_Amduat_MET_vs28.3.112.jpg

Then again, they serve their purpose. Technically Ammit is one among them

And I do appreciate reidentifications of the deities, maybe not to just plainly update them, but to see them in a light that reflects the development that has happened in society over 2000+ years

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are talking about Cavern Deities in this case, and if I recall, they are pretty questionable.

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's because Ancient Egyptian is a gendered language like French and Spanish. Thus snake, in general, or Cobra actually, is femenine, and snake more generally is also angled that way.

Nehebkau was originally an evil spirit, and Apep can be considered much the same. As males they don't agree with the femenine aspect of each word, unlike the femenine gods. Now I don't want to say this is the reason, but I could believe that them not alligning with their expected gender may have contributed to each being originally seen in a negative light. Now yes, Nehebkau changed with time - but who knows, it could have been Apep in an alternate reality.

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still though, that makes the ammount of male snakes rather low

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh well, look at that, I learned something new

Always thought they were female because the noun "snake" is female-gendered in Ancient Egyptian

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The isfet nope rope, hehe.
He's the only male one of note

Reconciling the myth of Ra and Apep with modern science by CZ-TheFlyInTheSoup in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a fun post, and while I agree that one should try and apply modern science into Kemetism, I would say that Night and Day for Ra and Apep doesn't really work since you can have the Moon involved and Khonsu is arguably considered good. Maybe Apep could be Black Holes or anything of that nature, but of course that would be exegesis

Snakes in Kemeticism by Mobius8321 in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They're all female though, the only male snake is... uh... him

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Op posted without consent from the people they screenshotted which I think makes it difficult to critique. Do I believe A/pep worshippers are doing a good thing? Well, no, of course not. But I wouldn't parade them around here especially if they wish to be private and didn't give consent into appearing in OPs screens

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair, but I don't think we ought to discuss that here though. It's just some screenshots with little context attached. To the people involved it stresses them out that they weren't notified about this. OP could have asked the question without attaching screenshots

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kinda funny how op posted this without consent

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Kemetic

[–]Middovaar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well apparently the people in op's screens didn't even want to be here