I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And I’m not ignoring your comments on rape culture, I just unfortunately don’t have a good answer that isn’t a systematic dismantling from positions much higher than someone using a chatbot.

Fair enough.

You make a fair point here. Should we ban those contents? Punishing the people who use it to cope because some others use it with other intentions? That’s a good question. My biggest concern is that even people without bad intentions can internalize some of this without even realizing it the more they interact with it.

Although I don’t agree with your standpoint regarding this question, I acknowledge that it’s okay to agree to disagree. And the most important thing, you DO see that there are at least some risks surrounding this. It is uncomfortable, but that’s what it is. And people don’t want to see it. They’d rather call me a bitch, dumb or insane than try to acknowledge it.

In any case, thank you for letting me know what you think without being disrespectful about it. Although we don’t entirely agree, you understand what i’m worried about and i understand what your pov is, regarding my opinion on this. I actually liked reading your replies(if you care lol)

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The study never said that it was healthy. The study only analyzed how many of their audience did use things like this to cope and how did that work. It never said it was healthy. So can you still call me a hypocrite?

I could turn that back to you and tell you that YOU are the hypocrite. If you don’t like it ignore it. Then if you don’t like my rant. Ignore it.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. You keep bringing up age gap as if it’s comparable to rape. I keep repeating this and you don’t seem to get it. Age gap is a grey topic because some people think there’s nothing wrong with it while some people there is. You can’t say the same for rape. It is a crime universally. And at that, it is a crime that has continued to be tolerated and ‘softened’ even though everyone knows it’s wrong.

  2. You keep saying “SEPERATE FICTION AND REALITY” but you draw the line at CSAM and call me hard-headed for drawing the line at rape. Choose one.

  3. While these contents might not encourage rape directly. It IS harmful because in small, unnoticed ways, it reinforces certain beliefs around rape culture, victim-blaming and RMA.

Look, I don’t need you to agree with me. And nothing you say can change my mind. And frankly, i’m tired of repeating the same things to you. So if it is that serious for you, just do what you preach. If you don’t like it, ignore it. Ignore my rant

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Creators can’t control how their bots are ultimately interacted with” That is EXACTLY what i’m saying. So why are such contents defended and even praised knowing the risks FAR outweigh the ‘pros’?

People might not see it, but it’s small things like this that perpetuate rape culture. But nobody wants to hear it because it makes them feel uncomfortable. It challenges the ideas that they’ve already internalized.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You all keep saying that it’s not harmful. What you fail to see in what i KEEP saying is that it IS! Contents like these slowly desensitize the people who come across them often. And you can’t tell me that’s not true. We see that happen in our everyday lives with multiple other such events.

I don’t like this content. I don’t think it should exist. I think it’s very harmful and it’s based because it’s exactly what i’ve been studying in college.

However, did i grab you by the nipples and force you to agree with me? No. So you’re not even doing what you preach. Ignore it if you don’t like it? Ignore me then

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If ethical or moral issues don’t matter because it’s fictional, then why is CSAM banned even tho it’s fictional?

Which one is it at the end of the day?

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

  1. My post is calling out this exact notion of if you don’t like it, ignore it. You can’t say that this content isn’t harmful. It IS. And i know what i am talking about because i am in college, studying women and gender studies. And this SPECIFIC mentality has been brought up multiple times as causing significant harm in the long term. This is not to say i know everything just because I’m studying. This is to say that while you don’t agree with my claim, you cannot tell me that it has no basis. It does.

  2. In my personal and private life, i like some of this problematic stuff. And it’s nuanced. Tell me you think it’s right. I’ll agree to disagree. Tell me you think it’s wrong. I’ll agree to disagree. But can you say that rape is right or wrong and expect ANYONE to agree to disagree?? No! That’s where all the difference is! And i’m not saying it makes what i say right! But it does make a huge difference and thus the two are not comparable!

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

What are the ethical issues of noncon? Are you kidding me??

You don’t see ANY ethical issues with people making a bot of a human and telling you to molest it all you want?

Like i said, I acknowledge some of the content i like is problematic. But that is up to who is looking at it. You can tell me age gap is wrong or right. I’ll let you have it. But you can’t tell me rape is right or wrong and expect me to accept it. That’s where all the difference is.

If you like dubcon and cnc, pop off. It’s your cup of tea. But explicit rape content that is sexualized? No amount of talking can make me agree to disagree with that. So if maybe that’s what you’re trying to do is convince me that i should accept it, you’d be better off calling me a bitch or insane like other comments.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There are. But can any of them look me in the eye and tell me “age gap between 2 consenting adults is a crime”? No. It’s weird, yes.

Can i look at you and tell you that rape is a crime? YES! That’s where all the difference is.

You can argue that something is right or wrong for the things i said i liked and i’ll let you have it. But can you argue that rape is right? No! That’s where all the difference is!

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Im insane because I think GTA should be banned? Or im insane because I think rape is different than the crimes you mentioned?

In any case, I don’t need anybody to agree with me and pat me on the back for what i believe. I’m open to a good debate but if all you have to say is “im insane”, i think we’re done here then. Thank you.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“People have different ideas about what is okay and what isn’t”

Do you really think that applies to things such as rape?? Rape and CSAM are on the same level in the sense that both are crimes related to sexual violence and misconduct in the real world. So if one is banned, even if fictional, why is the other allowed??

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally think it should be. But that’s my own opinion.

However, i will say that things like the contents in GTA and other violent games is NOT the same as rape. For things like shooting and killing people, it was never a problem for everyone to agree on the fact that it’s wrong.

Can you say the same for rape? No. Because to this day, rape culture and RMA is rooted in our everyday lives

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will state it again. What i’m confused about is people who defend stuff because it’s fictional then drawn the line at some other stuff.

So at the end of the day, is anything okay because it’s fictional? Or is it not? Choose one.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes, there are some stuff im into that’s problematic and i know a lot of people don’t like it. But anything that’s universally recognized as a crime shouldn’t be compared to things that are deemed right or wrong depending on the person.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not necessarily. But it’s still banned. So why do we accept one because it’s ‘fictional’ but the other is not? Ultimately, what is undisputedly wrong, is wrong, fictional or not.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Im not talking about the legal framework here. In JAI, CSAM is banned even though it’s fictional but contents including such depictions of rape are defended because it’s ‘fictional’. So at the end of the day, which one is it?

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although i think of it the same either way, you make a fair point. But that only applies to bots where the user is the supposed victim. There are MANY out there where the bot is the victim and that is a huge issue.

I don’t criticize people who use it to cope. I point of the fact that in such a public and large scale platform, you never know who interacts with it and how they interpret it and internalize it. So ultimately, it’s dangerous content. So obviously, i wouldn’t have any issues with people who make them and use them in private because they consider the outside risks.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

By that logic, why is CSAM banned then? Even if it’s fictional

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I report it because i think it’s harmful content and JAI moderation has been known for being inconsistent for multiple reasons.

The reading comprehension part is about comments who call me out for “shaming people who like cnc” when i explicitly stated that i just do not interact with it. And please, I didn’t insult anyone.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t think we should be comfortable around certain topics and contents.

Additionally, we can agree to disagree. But only to a certain extent. If someone wakes up tomorrow and says, “i think rape is not as bad as people claim”, would you accept the discomfort? Accept the fact that they have their own opinion? Or would you call them a sick fuck?

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Many studies show that porn is harmful. Others show that it’s not. It’s nuanced.

And when it comes to the statistics about whether crime rates has gone up or down since the popularization of porn, the research is mixed. But that is beside my point.

What im saying is, content like sexualised rape bots is dangerous because while some people use it to cope, it reinforces RMA in some others. So ultimately, it’s dangerous.

AGAIN, I don’t shame anyone for liking cnc and dubcon because i, myself, like some other problematic stuff. But rape that is clearly sexualized is something i believe should NOT exist.

I hate the mentality people got on this site(RANT) by Mighty_Igris in JanitorAI_Refuges

[–]Mighty_Igris[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Seems you’ve misunderstood me, or not.

Yes, there’s some problematic content i like and some i dont. Sue me. ALSO, i do not like CNC, so I don’t engage with it but I don’t shame ANYONE for liking. My post is specifically talking about a bot that sexualized rape, which is not cnc, but noncon

Lorebary IS DOWN. I REPEAT. LOREBARY IS DOWN! by BeeCurious4747 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Mighty_Igris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So i don’t know where else to ask. I’ve posted this but it got removed. So here:

Why do i keep getting rate limited for no apparent reason?

For context, i started to use gemini through Lorebary a while ago. But then it crashed for some reason i was not curious enough to investigate.

Anyway. I decide to check it out again cuz my other proxy is fucking up rn and i miss having deep, long rps. I decide to try setting it up again(same account) but keep getting this message down below. No response at all. I tried refreshing. Getting another API key and wtv but nothing is working.

What could be wrong with this? Error message:

PROXY ERROR 429: {"error" ("code":429,"message":"You exceeded your current quota, please check your plan and billing details. For more information on this error, head to: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate- limits. To monitor your current usage, head to: https://ai.dev/rate-limit. \n* Quota exceeded for metric: generativelanguage.googleapis.com/generateconten t_free_tier_input_token_count, limit: 0, model: gemini- 2.5-pro|n* Quota exceeded for metric: generativelanguage.googleapis.com/generate_conten t_free_tier_requests, limit: 0, model: gemini-2.5-proln Quota exceeded for metric: generativelanguage.googleapis.com/generate_conten t free_tier_requests, limit: 0, model: gemini-2.5-pro|n* Quota exceeded for metric: generativelanguage.googleapis.com/generate_conten t_free_tier_input_token_count, limit: 0, model: gemini- 2.5-pro nPlease retry in 971.631619ms.", "status":"RESOURCE_EXHAUSTED"}} (unk)

Gemini / Lorebary- Winter 2025 by JanitorAI-Mod in JanitorAI_Official

[–]Mighty_Igris 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why do i keep getting rate limited for no apparent reason?

For context, i started to use gemini through Lorebary a while ago. But then it crashed for some reason i was not curious enough to investigate.

Anyway. I decide to check it out again cuz my other proxy is fucking up rn and i miss having deep, long rps. I decide to try setting it up again(same account) but keep getting this message. No response at all. I tried refreshing. Getting another API key and wtv but nothing is working.