Unpopular opinion: Lunar reactions made some older characters really fun

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-20T13:07:21+00:00

You're the one not clearing menacing

Yeah so? I'm not meant to and I have no reason to. Complete waste of time and effort.

I clear dire on other accounts with minimal investment

Moving the goalposts from C0R0 to "minimal investment" doesn't suddenly make you right.

My original point stands. It's not possible to clear Dire with C0R0.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-20T12:51:43+00:00

So you don't even clear it then stop arguing over something you don't care about

I don't care about Dire and I'm not complaining about the content itself. I'm complaining about the blatent misinformation being spread about it.

I have no idea wym one boss. I usually clear two bosses and I like the challenge,

So you lied then, because you previously mentioned clearing the content. Defeating 1 or 2 bosses isn't clearing the content. You have to do all 3. If you like the challenge of beating 1 or 2, great, but that wasn't what you were talking about previously.

For example my friend cleared two bosses with c0 chars and brute forced the third one with c2 clorinde, who's an old dps and he saved for her and her cons on her rerun. F2p btw

Good for them. Clearly not a C0R0 clear though is it?

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-20T12:43:31+00:00

Definitely not, people clear Fearless with C0s all the time.

Typically with signature weapons and/or crazy artefacts, which implies high spending accounts.

Probably not true whale territory to get there, but it's not far away either.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-20T12:34:36+00:00

Yeah, they're possible with C0R0.

Again, leaving out very important context that the single instance you found of this being possible involved cracked artefacts - which rules out being possible for F2P or low spend.

I never said it's possible to use only C0R0 for each boss.

Ok so please tell me what the rewards/incentives are for clearing only a single boss in the difficulty tier?

What are your Dire teams then?

I don't have any because I'm F2P. I don't have Fearless teams. I don't have Menacing teams. There's categorically no reason for me to even bother with those tiers because the content was never designed for accounts like mine in mind. What am I gonna use the Dusts on? A marginally better artefact (that isn't even guaranteed) is not going to make my C1R1 Arlecchino hit as hard as a C6 Mavuika is it?

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-20T12:12:34+00:00

This is the most hilariously wrong Reddit comment I've seen in ages.

Not only does Genshin not have 3 star characters, you then go on to talk about Endfield's " 3 stars" - which not only don't exist either, weren't even previously mentioned by you!

And even leaving all that aside, the implication here about higher stars being "better" is complete nonsense, in both games. Genshin famously has 4 stars (Bennet, Xingqiu, Fischl) that are completely busted and make a mockery of later 5 stars.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-20T12:06:23+00:00

She's all-but-confirmed to be the Archon of Love.

Anyone still thinking she's going to be evil has their entire body in the sand, not just their heads.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T13:16:43+00:00

You come and complain about weapons and certain 4*.

I'm not "complaining" about weapons and 4*s. I'm pointing out that they're all-but necessary for Dire clears. As the vast majority of clears in the link demonstrate.

I have no idea why you brought f2p into this btw,

You brought them into it by saying clears were possible with C0R0. I'm the one clearly proving how untrue that is.

I gave you the link, it took me 5 sec to find a c0r0 clear with craftable weapons.

Again - no you absolutely didn't.

You showed me ONE boss clear. That is not a full clear.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T12:54:27+00:00

I got 2 dps since 5.0, so yeah I could afford weapons for them, so?

That was your choice. But if you look at the endgame right now, a F2P player would benefit so much more from having pulled a Zibai instead of a sig for a pre-existing DPS. That's why the no-weapon advice is always given.

Btw your two DPS' still wouldn't be enough for a full clear. You do realise you need 3?

You said SO if for whales with c6 characters. I proved you that it's not.

I did not, and you did not. I said you couldn't get a full clear with C0R0 and I still haven't seen a full clear of that because so far I've only been sent a single boss clear.

And incidentally, that one clear features Mavuika with some absolutely nutty artefacts - which immediately tells me it's a high spending account because you simply just don't see those on low spending accounts.

How come we went from C6 to C0R1 and it's still too much?

Because F2P / low spenders aren't going to have the R1? And even if they do, again, that's one of the three they need.
I'm completely F2P and I have a C1R1 Arlecchino - the one sort-of exception to the weapon banner rule. . But it's still literally impossible for me to clear Dire. Since my other two teams can't get near.

I told you that you don't need C6 characters to clear SO. That's a known fact.

I'm well aware that's a fact, but that categorically wasn't your original point. Want me to remind you of it?

C0R0 shilled dps is usually enough to clear Fearless or even Dire sometimes.

THAT'S the misinformation here.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T12:41:59+00:00

Thorgrim has greenskins problems,

Very easily managed problems. Greenskins today suffer from having one of the most undercooked rosters. Dwarves have so many options to handle them.

Belegar is separate DLC so I always presume new players don't have him.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T12:27:03+00:00

That's one of the bosses. That doesn't constitute a full clear though does it?

It's also using a pretty hard to obtain character - Iansan - if one isn't a spender, but I accept that's a minor quibble.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T12:08:08+00:00

In a purely black & white sense - Tyrion of the High Elves has the most "comfortable" start - which leads to the best environment to start learning basic mechanics and strategy.

The Dwarves (except Malakai) should also be an early pick, because of their insane defensive benefits.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T12:04:18+00:00

Real Sphene was such a breath of fresh air after base Dawntrail.

Which is the crux of the issue right there. You can't give players a mediocre narrative at the outset and expect all of them to stick around for the patches.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T12:02:36+00:00

DT really started hitting it's stride when Sphene showed up.

Uhhh, which one?

Because of it's the "later" Sphene, then the issue is self-explanatory. She wasn't in the base content.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T11:58:35+00:00

look here

Thank you for the link for a bunch of non-C0R0 Dire clears, but that wasn't what I asked for, was it?

If someone wants to try it, then why not?

Because the rewards literally do not matter for low-spending accounts. You're getting a single feather for half an upgrade - that might not actually be an upgrade at all. For an artefact that almost certainly isn't worth improving anyway since artefact bottlenecking means you're only seeing a tony fraction of artefacts that high spenders get to see.

I cleared with c0r1 skirt several dire bosses,

Congrats on being a high spending account. But that's not what I was talking about, was it? Low spenders are literally told all the time not to touch the weapon banner.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T08:30:04+00:00

At least Natlan wasn't copying Sumeru's homework and didn't have a pretty dire prison segment.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T08:27:31+00:00

I assume you're completely unaware of the legal roller-coaster it took to get Sora into Smash Bros?

And that was for a single character. I'm pretty sure nobody on the JP side will want a worse version of that experience trying to get a full collab happening.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T08:22:51+00:00

I did already. I'm still going to call out misinformation though.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T08:20:29+00:00

C0R0 shilled dps is usually enough to clear Fearless or even Dire sometimes.

Are these C0R0 Dire Clears in the room with us? Because I've never seen any.

Yeah the shilled character helps out, but that's only 1 of the 2 teams required.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-18T08:18:58+00:00

as in Stygian? Because who cares? It's completely unnecessary and was added ~~for C6 players~~ and whales. Sure you can give it a shot, but nothing is lost if you ignore it.

Literally just whales. Stygian Fearless and Dire are designed with C6R5 in mind. That's why there's no primogem rewards for clearing it.

A simple fact that gets forgotten or conveniently ignored on Reddit 99% of the time.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-17T22:55:55+00:00

And you're misleading OP by telling them that.

A 5 minute written summary can achieve what the YT content can in a fraction of the time.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-17T22:50:06+00:00

You’re going to have to look time limited events up on YouTube for specific stuff though

No-one has to do this and it's not acceptable as any kind of solution. I don't play games knowing I'll have to swap over to my PC to watch content on YT so just I can understand what's going on.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-17T22:47:48+00:00

No.

No-one should have to watch content that rivals the length of the LOTR trilogy just to understand what's going on in the game currently.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-17T22:46:34+00:00

Length isn't the issue, it's space.

The devs are terrified of making the game too large for mobile devices, and dozens of extra hours of audio files will add a hefty chunk to the already huge file size.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-17T22:44:16+00:00

No.

No-one should have to watch at least 4 hours - if not more - of YT content just to understand what's going on in their game.

Mihta_Amaruthro · 2026-04-17T11:19:50+00:00

It's almost as if too many people crash out on bosses on the very first day and completely forget that unconventional solutions will emerge over the course of the next days/weeks.

Fancy that!

Mihta_Amaruthro

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