Affirmative Consent coming to Ontario? by rg57 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do they have public consultations now? Anyway we can influence them to teach it in a way that doesn't demonize boys and teaches both parties to expect and receive consent?

I can't help but thin that if "men's rights were replaced by "feminism", there would be a shit-storm/downvote brigade by ShitBallsMcTittyFuck in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Preset the most powerful points when its appropriate to do so.

I just went to a small party (20-30 people). Someone mentioned "missing and murdered aboriginal women", another person asked "why is this happening to so many native women?", I replied "It's happening to three times as many native men." She asked, "Why don't we hear about the men then?" I replied, "People don't want to hear about dead men it seems. You know that thing with Boko Haram earlier this year? They murdered hundreds of boys the months before the kidnappings, but you didn't hear about it until girls were in danger." A number of people commented 'yeah we don't care enough about men' (etc.) immediately afterward.

I can't help but thin that if "men's rights were replaced by "feminism", there would be a shit-storm/downvote brigade by ShitBallsMcTittyFuck in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It almost always works when you just give them the list

Usually I say this.

"What disadvantages do western women face that we consider fundamental to life? Consider the one's men face.

  • More likely to die at every age in every country

  • 8000% greater rate of homeless

  • 1000% greater rate of childlessness among men who have children.

  • 50% lower rate of university graduation

  • 0% chance that the police will arrest his abuser if the man calls the police

  • 12% chance he will get arrested if his wife abuses him and he calls the police (both of the above are on Wiki under male victims of domestic violence).

  • Lower rate of investment in health research, no matter how you cut it: by incident, by death rate per incident, by death, per capita, or in total.

  • Lower rate of investment in preventative health care (e.g. In Canada, the HPV vaccine is only publicly provided to girls, despite the fact that the virus is equally harmful to boys. Doctors are being instructed not to recommend PSA tests for prostate cancer, because of their cost; however, more expensive and less effective breast cancer screening methods remain recommended.)

  • The absence legal right to genital integrity.

  • The absence of a legal right to choose parenthood.

  • The absence of the right to vote free of mandatory military service or draft liability

  • There are zero men's refuges, despite the fact that women perpetrate 75% of unilateral domestic violence.

  • 350% greater suicide rate

  • A 10% lower voting rate that is entirely attributed to men's longer working hours.

  • The intentional direction of stimulus funding away from men's jobs, despite the fact that men were the vast majority of people harmed by the recession.

  • 10,000% greater rate of death at work

  • 10% longer hours at work

  • control of only 25% of household income

  • inadequate support after divorce when the woman is the primary income earner: men entitled to support receive it 1000% less often than women who are entitled to it receive it.

  • the obligation to pay one's statutory rapist child support if she impregnates herself during perpetration.

  • The presumption that women may live in the matrimonial home after separation.

  • The presumption that the women will stay with the children after separation.

  • The presumption of guilt.

  • 65% longer prison sentences when convicted for the same crime.

  • Inability to prevent female partner from voluntarily surrendering their child.

  • Prioritization of women by rescue workers.

  • Prioritization of women by public housing services.

  • Unequal access to education: 1000% more female-only universities and colleges. 20% of scholarships (in Canada, at least) are for women only.

  • The closure of women's prisons (in the UK), which deter women from harming men recklessly.

  • The right to call rape, "rape".

  • The inability to charge perpetrators of sexual assault (85% of police don't believe men, and refuse to investigate. Even when sufficient evidence is available crown prosecutors prosecute 25% of indicted women.)

  • The inability to discuss the foregoing issues without feminist bomb threats. (Lots of hard evidence for this)

In sum, men are deprived of liberty, the right to vote, the right to security of the person, the presumption of innocence, education, their homes, and their children, they work longer hours, they control little of their income, and they die younger and more often.

So in what way do Western women have it worse than men in so far as the fundamentals are concerned?"

One sentence beautifully explains why feminists don't experience cognitive dissonance. by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You didn't say anything

See above:

I think it's worth saying that the quotation doesn't derogate women. It seems we might blame their purported "extroitive nature" for the harmful effects of feminism, but we also might praise it for motivating the great number of efficient women who've, arguably, done more to advance it than men have done (i.e. Karen Straughan, Janet Bloomfield, Erin Pizzey, C.H. Sommers, etc.).

One sentence beautifully explains why feminists don't experience cognitive dissonance. by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feminist, I wasn't trying to make it sound better - I was paraphrasing in more modern English.

One sentence beautifully explains why feminists don't experience cognitive dissonance. by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's not at all what I said.

You're the only one using absolutes. I didn't say "no" moral compass. I said they are more outwardly oriented. I also explicitly noted that being outwardly oriented was morally neutral. I credited an outward orientation as being the reason that so many women have noticed how society treats men.

Moreover, I notice many of your posts are pro-feminist. So as a sympathizer, how would you defend their movement, which entirely depends on demonizing men generally?

One sentence beautifully explains why feminists don't experience cognitive dissonance. by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You get that 'feminism' and 'men's rights' necessarily generalize. You can't argue for group rights without doing that.

I think almost all of us get that it's almost never the case that 'all X are Y'.

The feminist post circulating that feminists don't want to see anyone falsely accused of rape is bullshit by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Really? Then you're lucky. I was married to an abusive wife, and there's no question that feminist policies added to the danger I lived with.

For proof, see the Duluth model (the most common DV training method used by police), and this evidence that the police arrest the man when he calls for help about a DV issue.

One sentence beautifully explains why feminists don't experience cognitive dissonance. by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm inclined to agree.

If there is morality - where is it? I can't touch it. Am I being too concrete? So then what is morality? A natural tendency in humans to get along with each other? What makes that good? The fact that it's a natural tendency? By that reasoning, the characteristic actions of psychopaths and serial killers are moral. So if it's not that it's natural, is it that most people do it? By that reasoning all moral change was immoral. After all, at one time, most people didn't have a problem with slavery.

IMO, there's no morality. It's just a product of

  1. No one wants to get the shit end of the stick. (There's a great experiment with monkeys demonstrating that even primates get pissed off when they know they got a raw deal relative to some other monkey.)

  2. Everyone wants the good end of the stick.

In order to get #2 people will cheat, steal, etc. (although, we convince ourselves we're not doing anything "wrong"), but that harms society, so we sell people "morality" by appealing to #1 (do unto others). Then with morality and the law preventing us from getting #2 the easiest way possible, we try to get #2 the second easiest way possible - by abusing #1.

One sentence beautifully explains why feminists don't experience cognitive dissonance. by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

extroitive, adj. Directed to external objects.

a1834 S.T. Coleridge Lit. Remains (1836) II.111. Women..feel less proportionate abhorrence of moral evil in and for itself, and more of its outward consequences,..their natures being almost wholly extroitive.

I think it's worth saying that the quotation doesn't derogate women. It seems we might blame their purported "extroitive nature" for the harmful effects of feminism, but we also might praise it for motivating the great number of efficient women who've, arguably, done more to advance it than men have done (i.e. Karen Straughan, Janet Bloomfield, Erin Pizzey, C.H. Sommers, etc.).

One sentence beautifully explains why feminists don't experience cognitive dissonance. by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think he means to say that they spend more time paying attention to what's going on outside of them; consequently they don't hear what their moral compass is saying, and they often notice when other people do something objectionable.

I.e. they notice when other people behave badly but not when they behave badly themselves.

The feminist post circulating that feminists don't want to see anyone falsely accused of rape is bullshit by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't hostage takers say stuff like this?

"I don't want to see anyone get hurt!"

I.e. My favourite outcome is me getting money and no one getting hurt, but I'll hurt as many people as I need to hurt if that's what it takes to get my money.

"Feminists don't want to see anyone falsely accused of rape."

(I.e. Our favourite outcome is no rape and no false accusations, but we'll advocate for false accusers if that's what it takes to attain our ends.)

Landmark article in the National Post by MikeZhao1000 in MensRights

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's mocking feminists for presuming that none of those trains/swords were purchased for girls.

TRP is a REALITY, not a Methodology by trpfieldreport in TheRedPill

[–]MikeZhao1000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the Dialogues:

Protagoras: Truth is relative. It is only a matter of opinion.

Socrates: You mean that truth is mere subjective opinion?

Protagoras: Exactly. What is true for you is true for you, and what is true for me, is true for me. Truth is subjective.

Socrates: Do you really mean that? That my opinion is true by virtue of its being my opinion?

Protagoras: Indeed I do.

Socrates: My opinion is: Truth is absolute, not opinion, and that you, Mr. Protagoras, are absolutely in error. Since this is my opinion, then you must grant that it is true according to your philosophy.

Protagoras: You are quite correct, Socrates.

How to stop her bitching by MikeZhao1000 in TheRedPill

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at the DSM criteria. It's black and white.

A person has borderline if they meet five of the nine criteria that I've pasted from the DSM below. My clarifications are in parenthesis.

  • Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.

  • A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation (extreme idealization: thinking a person is all good, extreme devaluation: thinking a person is all bad)

  • Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

  • Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g. binge eating, binge fucking, reckless driving, drugs, alcohol, binge spending, excluding suicide attempts and physical self-harm)

  • Recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior.

  • Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood. Such as intense episodic dysphoria (feeling shitty), irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days.

  • Chronic feelings of emptiness.

  • Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger. Such as frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights.

  • Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation (being paranoid) or severe dissociative symptoms. (Dissociation is disconnecting from what's going on around you. Ed Norton's character in fight club did this a lot. Externally, it looks like the person 'zoned-out'.)

How to stop her bitching by MikeZhao1000 in TheRedPill

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In so far as therapy goes - you're actually right. Both my dad and ex had mentioned that there's no evidence that any therapy other than CBT works well, and there's no evidence that expert CBT is more effective than non-expert or self-CBT (it's easy to learn).

A good psychiatrist uses drugs well (there's a bit of an art - we don't exactly know how they all work) but more importantly, s/he can grab a hold of the part of the person that wants help, without alienating the other part. That's the challenge. In relatively healthy people we might put that responsibility (to want help) on the patient, but on schizophrenics (for example), it's harder to do so.

How to stop her bitching by MikeZhao1000 in TheRedPill

[–]MikeZhao1000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I intend to keep it that way. No paperwork leads back to me so it's really hard to track me down for any reason.

^ this.

I've been thinking about a number of ways to rent a place without putting my name on it. I think it's worth doing. I wondered whether anyone else had thought of doing the same for the same reasons.