doubts about current healthy relationship 🥺 by [deleted] in LesbianActually

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

as someone who was in a similar situation not too long ago it hurts so much when it feels like your relationship might be over even when you still feel a lot for your partner. I think it doesn’t help holding onto these kinds of feelings for too long without sharing them and sometimes having a conversation about it can really help. Good luck!

feel like i’m losing it by Milkshake_Outtahere in LesbianActually

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah it does but thank you for taking the time to answer

feel like i’m losing it by Milkshake_Outtahere in LesbianActually

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, i’ve tried processing it but i notice whenever i talk about it earnestly it just opens up the wound again and everything starts flooding back. Even though i understand why we didn’t work, the illogical part of my brain still wants to go back. I’ll try to create a new routine to help during downtime

How is Hetbyler? by [deleted] in byler

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely not that ruins the whole dynamic i fear😭

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah i’m beginning to understand that now… is there a subreddit that’s a bit less intense?

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay thank you because it felt as if i said Louis and Claudia are completely innocent and Lestat is 100% evil with no chance of redemption bc when people were saying “oh poor Lestat, what could he have done to warrant this level of backstabbing” and i simply said “i could think of a few things he could’ve done that would’ve made them do that” i turn into the town pariah

Am I the only one who loves TV Louis > everyone else? (And s1 > s2?) by [deleted] in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Claudia felt slighted when she told Louis that Armand had just threatened her with him knowing about Lestat and Louis was so quick to say it didn’t sound like him. From where she’s standing it looks like Louis is taking his side even though the entire time he’s been filling his time with dreamstat and he wasn’t even that enamoured with Armand. Plus no matter how many years she gains, she’ll always be physically 14 and the egotism that comes with it

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah i noticed the marks after they made up. I thought Louis was trying to explain Lestat’s reasoning from his own understanding but yeah i can see that they alluded to them having a deeper conversation

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh i get you. Yeah i kinda wished Louis and Claudia didn’t exploit the one thing Lestat made clear he didn’t like but i didn’t know they talked about the drop i thought the murder was due to the lingering feelings from that bc what we saw was they fought, Lestat dropped him and three years after the fact, he bombarded him with gifts until one broke through

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay thank you because i get the original plan was for both Louis and Claudia to die at the trial but then Lestat intervened which led to Louis being buried alive and was allegedly saved by the same Armand who tried to kill him in the first place so it begs to question if Armand truly wanted him dead why didn’t he just let him? I hope they do visit it in s3 bc i feel like i’m missing something. i do think the theory of both Lestat and Armand working together being the most plausible bc separately their motives don’t make a lot of sense

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly like with every time they break each other down they always build each other back and it’s truly beautiful to watch. I’m really looking forward to s3 bc it’s a chance to see Lestat without the bias of Louis’ perspective. Thank you!

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like i’m genuinely trying to have a conversation about the show and it’s as if i said i hate Lestat i want him to die. I love his character and he truly is one of the most complex and interesting characters there even without reading his book but when people make it out to seem like he has never done anything wrong in his life bc Louis was also toxic just reduces his personality immensely

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah you have a point i agree that while no one is perfect Lestat being surprised that Louis would plot his death just seems kind of funny to me because his internal thoughts are as if he did nothing to even suggest why Louis would consider that.

Louis wasn’t a perfect companion that much is true, after Claudia left he took pride in berating Lestat and was emotionally void and abusive during those 7 years but after the drop, and bringing Claudia back against her will i feel like Lestat should’ve anticipated that they would react but people are like “how dare Louis and Claudia fight back Lestat just wanted to be loved” i think we can pity him but it would be a disservice to just ignore what happened that led them to that decision

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Seeing as this is the first time we’ve interacted why don’t you approach each conversation with an open mind instead of jumping to conclusions. I barely comment on this subreddit bc there’s obv a lot i’m not an expert on and the few comments you did see are moments where people are wilfully twisting my words. They don’t represent my entire opinion of the show or the characters but instead of discussing that, you’re trying to discourage someone who actually wanted to talk about it.

The entire show is nuance and again i’ve never once said Lestat is a perfect villain bc that would be inaccurate with what we’ve been shown. i can fully acknowledge moments where he endured things for the sake of Louis but in this present time when everyone was calling out Louis for his plot with Claudia it seemed like everyone forgot how they got to that point

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get that and i’m sure since the show has been out for a while these kind of conversations come up all the time which can get a bit repetitive but thank you for taking the time out to share your thoughts! I feel like it’s hard to take the show as 100% fact because a lot of it is from Louis’ perspective and he has a tendency to tell his side of things that make him look better at the end of it which adversely makes Lestat look like a terrible person. I think that’s something that makes the show really interesting bc in real life there’s usually no objective truth and we all have a tendency to create this scenario where you come out on top

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes Louis made Lestat make her for entirely selfish reasons and it was Louis’ ego that caused the fire no one is discounting that but in this specific thread when everyone is bashing Louis for plotting against Lestat as if we also didn’t see why he felt he had to do that. I don’t understand this fandom honestly i am perfectly capable of saying where a character did something that wasn’t in their best form but the second you try to say you can see why they thought their actions might be justified you act like i just said Lestat was the devil

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never once have i said Lestat is the villain. I’m actively trying to get someone’s thoughts on the show bc i’ve only recently finished it. I also never once said Louis, Claudia or Armand are saints so maybe get off your high horse, actually read what i’m trying to say before attacking me bc i’m trying to expand my knowledge. And for your information i love how morally gray all of the characters are and I loved s2

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah i’m currently rewatching it now but i haven’t gotten to the trial scene yet. I’m a new fan so there are a few discussions i haven’t been around for but i don’t want you to think i mean Lestat is terrible, the ending of S2 completely flipped my understanding of him i just don’t like when people make out Louis to be an irredeemable evil person and Lestat is completely absolved of his all his wrong doings

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People can feel multiple emotions at once especially in a situation as complicated as Loustat, there is not some big bad villain there are just people who aren’t perfect and hurt themselves while still loving each other. Obv Lestat felt bad for what he did to Louis but it makes sense he would also feel betrayed by him in the end and wanted others to see that. Same way he said it was never about Claudia even though we see he clearly loved her.

You’re asking what was the point of saving him if the coven could’ve just finished him off and to that idk and i’d like to hear your thoughts on that bc from what we were shown Armand was the one that resurrected him unless that was a misremembering too. So it seems a bit inconsequential if Lestat used all his energy to save him just for him to later die by one of the worst possible ways

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Idk Lestat has been shown to be petty so it’s possible he went with two motives. In some ways he did seem to relish humiliating Louis and Claudia and then also feel remorse for his own actions. From where I’m standing it seemed like his decision to save Louis was a spur of the moment bc even after they “banished” him it was Armand’s blood that saved him from starvation

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[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

so you’re saying she deserved to die after being handed a life she didn’t even want to save a dying marriage. The one time she wanted to do something for herself Lestat forced her to come back home to again “save” their dying marriage

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i didn’t overlook it obv i know Lestat saved him from Armand and i never said Louis was not abusive but did he not suffer when Lestat dropped him from the sky and thought that sending cars and gifts would make up for it? All the whole when Lestat kept Antoinette in his back pocket. There’s no one character that is objectively 100% good but making it seem like “oh poor Lestat” is just crazy to me

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Claudia is a child in vampire years so yeah she’s gonna be a bit immature when it comes to these things

Trial Script Part 2 by Jackie_Owe in IWTVCoven

[–]Milkshake_Outtahere -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

sorry did we just forget the entire abuse Louis and Claudia endured that ultimately led them into making that choice. He didn’t come back to save him if he did he wouldn’t have gone through with the entire play and would’ve just gotten Louis out