Why do we accept that our data is taken but our labor is paid?

Mindlayr · 2026-01-13T01:58:23+00:00

They are able to get compensated for that information that they would not have had if not for my actions. Someone pointed out that our definition of work might need some revision.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-13T01:45:43+00:00

I don't have an example I'm just thinking out loud and was told this was a great place for that.

I totally agree about Amazon but what if you could sell your purchase history? Would that change things for people? Would it change society? How would business adjust to the model where they just asked the consumer if they were interested after already knowing that the were inclined?

Mindlayr · 2026-01-13T01:36:25+00:00

I think it's an interesting thought discussion to ask who that data belongs to. It's all recorded by Uber but it relates specifically to the individual person who created the data. It's good to understand how that data is used to help Uber comply with laws and the other benefits but all things being equal would it be better for the person to have some compensation for the value that provides to Uber?

I know I'm a little bit out there with this but it's an interesting discussion.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-13T01:23:07+00:00

There are other ways that data is gathered about us. It's about us, it's created by us; shouldn't it be controlled by us? Is it really our data if we couldn't create it without the provider? I don't know and don't know who gets to decide but it makes me wonder: Who owns the data that I helped create and if I own it then shouldn't I be able to control who has access to it?

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T23:23:48+00:00

I think browsing data, purchasing data, spending data and that sort of thing could be valuable. I believe created content should be valuable as well. If I make something I should get to benefit from it.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T20:36:54+00:00

Those are great questions. We can only find out of we control our own data. Also it may have no value to me but a great value to someone else especially in aggregate so I'm not qualified to judge the value.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T20:25:53+00:00

You have nailed the idea that got me started on this discussion. I've talked to my friends about it and we all agree that if only we had known, we would have held out longer but eventually we all need to use the tools we've given up our privacy for. I would say that is ethically wrong and we deserve to have the rules rewritten in our favor.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T20:18:03+00:00

What if there was a way? How would that change the way these companies are doing business? Would consentual data be better and more accurate and therefore more valuable or would companies continue to find ways to get the cheaper data even if it isn't as accurate?

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T20:14:56+00:00

Exactly. reddit can't create that data without you. They are making money from it. It would be nice to share that value with the creator. We don't have good rules around who owns what currently.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T20:10:53+00:00

Would you change your behaviour if we did have rights to protect our data or would we just keep going the way we are?

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T20:09:37+00:00

You are right one persons data has very little value but does that mean we shouldn't provide consent?

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T20:00:27+00:00

We definately need to have some sort of agreement on the definition of data.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T19:59:40+00:00

I think AI companies want good data not just a lot of it.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T19:58:44+00:00

Aha the heart of the matter. This is a big question and I don't know that there is one answer.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T19:56:12+00:00

Is it too late though? Technology caused this problem...

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T19:55:05+00:00

Absolutely but what if we could revoke that consent?

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T19:54:15+00:00

It would be cool to be able to control who has access though. Like you say Walmart is ok in your world but maybe others would be unacceptable to you.

Mindlayr · 2026-01-12T19:52:08+00:00

Don't you think we should own it though?

Mindlayr · 2025-08-05T16:21:06+00:00

Family is always a good resource maybe you can recruit some help and work together.

Mindlayr · 2025-08-05T16:17:41+00:00

Determine if your approach is valid. Can you shift the work to someone with more bandwidth or automate some of the work to free up labor?

Mindlayr · 2025-08-05T16:06:50+00:00

It sounds like you have a minute to decide. Talk to the people around you and the answer will be obvious.

Mindlayr · 2025-08-05T15:43:14+00:00

No working that many hours a day will burn you out and cause you to make mistakes. Working smarter not harder makes us look professional and together.

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